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[SoylentGreen]

Does it demonstrate low value to be a 33 year old waiter? My friend is a waiter and my other friend is a bartender (he's 35). I think they are lazy. But they got me beat - they both know tons more women than I do.

I'm wondering how you dj's imagine a woman would view someone in these positions, since they are more commonly filled by younger people.

 

[cedd]

it does demonstrate low value by asking such question...

who cares about your job If youre a waiter (or anything) and are happy with this ?

BUT it does demonstrate low value if youre a waiter (or anything) AND have no ambition for progressing.

 

[vitor]

I think it all depends. For example in D.C my hometown waiters/bartenders working at a nice place can make bewteen 50-100k. If they work at Olive Garden or TGIF it is not the same thing. I think older chicks will look down upon this, but if they are happy and paying their bills it is great. I know many of older bartenders in their 40's who make over 60k and love it. My buddy danny always says I am married, so where else can I hang around young chicks, see a lot of action and get paid.

 

[Hooligan Harry]

Any man who bases his self worth on the ****ing job he has has some serious problems in life. You are not your job. Its something you do that puts money in your pocket. Thats all it is. If you honestly think there is real value in pushing paper clips and sending emails to retards all day long you are delusional. The only value is in the paycheck at the end of the month.

Just because you work in a cubicle and earn a better paycheck does not make you a more successful person that women would want to know. You are not higher value because you have a "career". There is no shame in being a waiter or a barman and they are jobs that will put you in front of more people in a very social setting.

Women like men with money. Your 9-5 job is not money. 100k salary a year is not money. 250k a year is not money. All you are is just at a different level of middle class. For your job to have any level of prestige, it has to be a job that has the potential to make you proper money if it is not already.

Why do you think women like doctors, lawyers, investment bankers, business owners? The bare bones reality of it is that the successful ones are making 500k a year plus. Those are high value jobs. Unless you are in the category or better, the only low value job you can have is one that puts you under middle class.

Your friends know more women because they are probably more outgoing and fortunate enough to have jobs where meeting people is easy. I dont care how old you are. Barmen get tail and plenty of it.

 

[horaholic]

close minded golddiggers wont like it.

It depends on the person. In my hometown, I literally know LAWYERS that take bartending jobs in the winter, so they can socialize at night and ski all day. You can also look at the starving artist. They are following their dreams, and they might make it, and they might not, but at least they are giving it their best shot. Of course, some people look down on these types, cuz they dont make enough money. Personnally I like freedom. I am a (house) painter, by occupation, and a musician by calling. I make more money than many people with college degree's. I have worked for people who have made millions with their painting company, so the potential for big money is there. One thing I can do, is pack my shyt and move wherever I want in the world, and am gauranteed a good job. Also, if I am in a band and have a chance to tour, I can drop everything and go. If any chicks dont like that, FVCK em. When I find place I want to settle down in I can start my own paintng company, and if I build up enough, I can build a recording studio, which I may or may not make money with, but It's what I want to do.

Some people like stability. I like freedom, and following my passions. Your friends may be unambitious, but they may also just look at life in a different way than you, or some chicks.

 

[BetterThanBond]

"You are not your job. Its something you do that puts money in your pocket. Thats all it is."
A man who says this has the wrong job. I am studying Neurosciene in university and plan on going to Med School to become a Neurologist. I consider it my mission in life. It's not just something to put money in my pocket. But it also doesnt entirely define who I am. Being happy with it is the most important thing though, but I would think it would be harder to get a long term relationship with a woman who is a lawyer or doctor or any of the more prestigious jobs, when you yourself are a waiter. There is just way less in common there and I couldn't see myself with a woman who's more ambitious than I am.

 

[IamMyownMan]

BetterThanBond-How old are you?

Put your age in your profile.

 

[edger]

close minded golddiggers wont like it.

It depends on the person. In my hometown, I literally know LAWYERS that take bartending jobs in the winter, so they can socialize at night and ski all day. You can also look at the starving artist. They are following their dreams, and they might make it, and they might not, but at least they are giving it their best shot. Of course, some people look down on these types, cuz they dont make enough money. Personnally I like freedom. I am a (house) painter, by occupation, and a musician by calling. I make more money than many people with college degree's. I have worked for people who have made millions with their painting company, so the potential for big money is there. One thing I can do, is pack my shyt and move wherever I want in the world, and am gauranteed a good job. Also, if I am in a band and have a chance to tour, I can drop everything and go. If any chicks dont like that, FVCK em. When I find place I want to settle down in I can start my own paintng company, and if I build up enough, I can build a recording studio, which I may or may not make money with, but It's what I want to do.

Some people like stability. I like freedom, and following my passions. Your friends may be unambitious, but they may also just look at life in a different way than you, or some chicks.

Horaholic, what genre of rock you into? Musician here myself(guitar/vocals/bass).

 

[mrRuckus]

close minded golddiggers wont like it.

Hell, i'm not a gold digger and i wouldn't like a waitress or bartender for anything serious. I don't even have to think about it. I just automatically assign these people to a lower class in my head. It's just what humans do. We do it here with the whole AFC thing. I assign fat people and people on talk shows to lower class in my head too. Shrug, i sense weakness. I don't even want to date a teacher because all the ones I know (and am friends with) tend to be pretty stupid and poor and are difficult to go out and do things with because they have little expendable cash.

Whether it's fair on a case-by-case basis, who knows, but you're gonna have an up hill battle because people will by default assign you lower until you prove yourself.

Close minded is a loaded phrase. I'm not close minded just because i thought about something and decided it the way you don't want me to.

 

[horaholic]

What if the waitress/bartender is working her way through school, or something like that? What if she was writing a book, or doing paintings? Would you avoid them then? It'd be close minded to assign lower class to them in that case. I wouldnt blame anyone for assigning a low class label on anyone, if that was IT, for them. If they had no other ambitions. The point I was trying to make, is people have more than their jobs going for them, and before you assign them a label, you should find out. I guess Im low class, cuz of my occupation. I guess us musicians are all kind of low class in a way anyway, though!

I have nothing against waitresses, but I try to stay away from bartenders, not because of their occupation itself, but what goes along with it.

There is a difference between a loser with no goals or ambitions, and someone who has other dreams, and does whatever to pay the bills until the dream comes alive. A lot of people need freedom. Freedom to travel, move, whatever. People with very solid good paying careers cant do that. I could never have a doctor in my band, for example, cuz they wouldnt be able to go on tour, or even practice a lot. Then again, the reason he's a doctor to begin with, is because medicine IS his passions, and #1 priority, so putting that much into music isnt what drives him anyways.

Unfortunately, for us artist types, extremely hard to make any real money doing what we love, and a lot of it is luck alone. Of course, Im sure its just as hard or harder to get a doctorate degree.

Basically, 'classes' generally kind of stick together, and that's understandible. I'm blue collar proud, but I will start my own company when I find a place to settle down in.

Edger: I've played in numerous punk-rock bands, a classic rock cover band, stoner rock bands. My last band was a unique cross of delta blues, rock, and punk with a touch of country. We'd go from clean finger picking, to Sabbath style metal with slide, and back again in the same song. Never done any major tours, but a couple smaller tours. I've opened up for lots of the bigger underground bands, and I even opened for Quiet Riot with a punkrock band once.Now, Im forming a Prince tribute band. Its not my idea, but Im up for the challenge. He's a pretty gnarly musician actually.

 

[Hooligan Harry]

"You are not your job. Its something you do that puts money in your pocket. Thats all it is."
A man who says this has the wrong job. I am studying Neurosciene in university and plan on going to Med School to become a Neurologist. I consider it my mission in life. It's not just something to put money in my pocket. But it also doesnt entirely define who I am. Being happy with it is the most important thing though, but I would think it would be harder to get a long term relationship with a woman who is a lawyer or doctor or any of the more prestigious jobs, when you yourself are a waiter. There is just way less in common there and I couldn't see myself with a woman who's more ambitious than I am.

You are still in university? Come talk to me when you have some life experience please. The perception of your your profession and the reality of your profession are almost always never the same. Your outlook changes when what was once a passion becomes a job. When it becomes a job it becomes a chore.

Ill admit that some work is more rewarding then others. Teaching perhaps. Working as a fireman perhaps. Medicine I am sure can be quite rewarding too. Unfortunatly, 95% of people who have a job dont have one that is really rewarding. Which means 95% of people have a job they should not have by your logic.

We work to eat, not live to work.