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Mexican latinas are still pretty decent Jesse. Miami just attracts "ambitious" women.
There is a saying that New York women have careers, Miami women have gigs. I agree with this completely. Most of the girls here do not have legitimate careers. They are Sugar Babies, OnlyFan girls, or bartenders/****tail waitresses. However, having a friend in the industry, he tells me that a ****tail waitress at leave easily makes half a mil a year!
 

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In the old Jimmy Buffett song, Come Monday, he describes California as "warm but quite thin," and I always felt that way about Florida when I lived there. You meet a lot of shallow, self absorbed people.
There is definitely a certain vibe to Florida. I mean there are aspects of Miami I love but the rest of Florida, not sure I could stomach it. It seems like that try hard So Cal mixed in with that Southern trailer park vibe. I always got a sketchy feeling from Florida girls that are not from Miami, they just seem really strange. I used to wonder why so many psychos come out of this state but after living here, I kind of getting. Florida girls are bad news to the core, like rob you and kill you kind of bad news.
 

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You have a tough decision to make with a place to live. I have not lived in Miami and don't desire to live there right now. There are times where I find faults with Dallas but I have remained here for an extended period.

I'm not sure moving back to NYC is the answer either. You had good reasons for leaving NYC.

I think the Iron Rule of Tomassi #7 might also apply in choosing a home city. It can be time better spent finding a place to live where you don't have a history.

Iron Rule of Tomassi #7

It is always time and effort better spent developing new, fresh, prospective women than it will ever be in attempting to reconstruct a failed relationship. Never root through the trash once the garbage has been dragged to the curb. You get messy, your neighbors see you do it, and what you thought was worth digging for is never as valuable as you thought it was.
I moved out of NYC during the pandemic and how the city handled it but I always swore that I would move back. Part of it is because I know that I vastly underperformed with game there. I barely did any cold approach and relied solely on the apps. I hate tons of dates that I let go to waste because I didn't sexualize. I was not even half the man then that I am now, which is why when I went back I got 4 lays in a week.

I want to move back to NYC at some point, just don't know when, to have my final hurrah with game and then just move on to other things. At the same point, I find Miami as my training grounds. It is like having a training partner who is a UFC Heavyweight champion pushing you in training camp as you set to fight someone similar to you in size.

I think Hispanics/Latinas in the United States are a bit overhyped. I had a notably unpleasant experience in an interaction with a U.S. born Hispanic/Latina that I met in a park. It led to a dramatic flaking experience. There was no sex in the experience. There have been other more neutral experiences with Hispanic women in the USA.

I prefer White women to Hispanic women. I am White. Hispanic women are the non-White women that I find most physically attractive.

Hispanic women are the dominant group of women in Miami. It's tough to live in Miami and not date Hispanic women.
I am sure Latinas elsewhere are nicer but the ones in Miami have proven to be somewhat unbearable. TBH, my experience is turning somewhat neutral and I admit I have a bias since I am actively dealing with them. It could be more Miami culture than anything though. As much as I have thrashed Miami Latinas, they are still light years ahead of the AOC types you get in NYC.

That's one of the most important points about approaching strangers. It is a very big grind. Do you know what is also a grind? Swiping on apps and trying to arrange first dates on apps.

It would have been interesting if you did this field reports thread as a resident of more typical U.S. big city.
The apps are too inconsistent. I go on Hinge once and I get a ton of matches but other times, it goes dry. I have also heard that a lot of Miami women are out of town now since it is the summer and they are looking to explore elsewhere. Lots to process. I know I'd do well in most other cities, Miami's culture is just that vain and tons of PUAs infest the city which inflates the egos of the local women even more.

I am interested in seeing how this one turns out. Interesting that you collected contact info from 2 women in the same set. It can be difficult to seduce 2 women from the same set.
So far, she has not even accepted my request. Doubt anything will come of it.
 

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I moved out of NYC during the pandemic and how the city handled it but I always swore that I would move back. Part of it is because I know that I vastly underperformed with game there. I barely did any cold approach and relied solely on the apps. I hate tons of dates that I let go to waste because I didn't sexualize. I was not even half the man then that I am now, which is why when I went back I got 4 lays in a week.

I want to move back to NYC at some point, just don't know when, to have my final hurrah with game and then just move on to other things. At the same point, I find Miami as my training grounds. It is like having a training partner who is a UFC Heavyweight champion pushing you in training camp as you set to fight someone similar to you in size.
I can see why you used apps in NYC. I've heard that men get better outcomes on dating apps in NYC than many other large cities.

Dallas and Miami are two extremely competitive markets. Even Phoenix is a tough market.

Ever considered moving to Orlando, Tampa, or even up the road to Fort Lauderdale? Florida is a healthier place to be than New York from a political and business standpoint.

4 lays in one week in New York City is very good.

So far, she has not even accepted my request. Doubt anything will come of it.
Not good. This is why I don't collect contact information without a solid date agreement in place. I don't want contact information unless there's a date planned. However, this isn't foolproof as many women will agree to a date, then flake on it a few hours before. This happens in cold approach. Let's also remember same day pre-date flaking is common on swipe apps too.

I am sure Latinas elsewhere are nicer but the ones in Miami have proven to be somewhat unbearable. TBH, my experience is turning somewhat neutral and I admit I have a bias since I am actively dealing with them. It could be more Miami culture than anything though. As much as I have thrashed Miami Latinas, they are still light years ahead of the AOC types you get in NYC.
AOC types in NYC? Meaning careerist/SJW and Latina?
 

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7/23/23 - UGH!

Went to daygame today after a hectic day yet again. I cannot wait to finally get my place set up, assembling the furniture is killing me and I need that second half of my couch to come delivered. From now on, I will go to a local store and hire movers to bring the couch into my future spot or hire someone to build the furniture. Super done.

It was way too late and I almost did not feel like going out to daygame but I did. No approaches at all today, saw 5 approachable girls max at Brickell in the place we DM'd about @IKO69. This heatwave is really killing Miami right now. Never seen Brickell so empty.
 

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This heatwave is really killing Miami right now. Never seen Brickell so empty.
You could go to some pool party in Miami to try and get laid.


There are always beaches too. South Beach is topless at times and Haulover is a nude beach.
 

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I moved out of NYC during the pandemic and how the city handled it but I always swore that I would move back. Part of it is because I know that I vastly underperformed with game there. I barely did any cold approach and relied solely on the apps. I hate tons of dates that I let go to waste because I didn't sexualize. I was not even half the man then that I am now, which is why when I went back I got 4 lays in a week.

I want to move back to NYC at some point, just don't know when, to have my final hurrah with game and then just move on to other things. At the same point, I find Miami as my training grounds. It is like having a training partner who is a UFC Heavyweight champion pushing you in training camp as you set to fight someone similar to you in size.



I am sure Latinas elsewhere are nicer but the ones in Miami have proven to be somewhat unbearable. TBH, my experience is turning somewhat neutral and I admit I have a bias since I am actively dealing with them. It could be more Miami culture than anything though. As much as I have thrashed Miami Latinas, they are still light years ahead of the AOC types you get in NYC.



The apps are too inconsistent. I go on Hinge once and I get a ton of matches but other times, it goes dry. I have also heard that a lot of Miami women are out of town now since it is the summer and they are looking to explore elsewhere. Lots to process. I know I'd do well in most other cities, Miami's culture is just that vain and tons of PUAs infest the city which inflates the egos of the local women even more.



So far, she has not even accepted my request. Doubt anything will come of it.
If your family is in NYC, that is enough reason to go back. Also I would imagine you should be able to get with hotter girls there. Why beat your head against a wall, life is short enough as is.
 

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I can see why you used apps in NYC. I've heard that men get better outcomes on dating apps in NYC than many other large cities.

Dallas and Miami are two extremely competitive markets. Even Phoenix is a tough market.

Ever considered moving to Orlando, Tampa, or even up the road to Fort Lauderdale? Florida is a healthier place to be than New York from a political and business standpoint.
The problem with other Florida cities is that I know I will not be happy there. Miami might be downright tough for game but there are aspects to the city I enjoy. It is very international and a very happening type of city. Plus, as I have said countless times, there is something to be gained from conquering a tough market.

I just know that deep down if I was to move away from Miami not having had the kind of success I wanted, it would haunt me for life. Especially when I know that I didn't really give it my all and had a lot of gaps I failed to address. That is the beauty of gaming in a tough environment and a tough market, you learn where you are really weak and you learn to fix those gaps.

I have seen gains at the gym being in Miami (even though I have put on some weight in recent weeks due to partying). I remember how back in NYC, I was just spoiled and being spoiled kind of rots you in ways you cannot think of. Apps were good enough for me to get a few dates a week and I never had to learn "game". Long-term it really messed me up in my development. Miami has given me the chance to fix those massive skill gaps and make up lost ground.

I will eventually go back to NYC just to see how well the best me can do but at the same time, I think only Miami can help develop the best me game wise.

4 lays in one week in New York City is very good.
Sometimes I wonder how easily I could get 100+ lays in a year being who I am right now in NYC.

AOC types in NYC? Meaning careerist/SJW and Latina?
You get two kinds of Latinas in NYC

1. Ghetto/ratchet Latinas
2. Super white-washed self-hating Latinas that chase clout
 

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If your family is in NYC, that is enough reason to go back. Also I would imagine you should be able to get with hotter girls there. Why beat your head against a wall, life is short enough as is.
LOL my family is not in NYC, did I say that? You are right, I will be able to get hotter girls with ease in NYC but I guess let me put this in an analogy.

There is a game called Madden for American Football fans. If you play the game on Rookie, at some point you can get so good that you beat the competition 100-0. You can even do this on all of the Madden difficulty levels from Rooke to Pro to All Pro. Then, there is All Madden which is downright tough. You tackle the runningback and he falls forward for a 4 yard gain. If you aren't an American Football fan then perhaps I will go to another sport you may watch, I don't watch baseball or soccer btw.

When I played Madden, for a while I struggled on All Madden to where I shouted and threw the controller against the wall. It made me want to come up with better gameplans and better strategies. Then finally, I was able to consistently win and even blow the competition out on All Madden.

I just love the grind man. Miami has proven to be a behemot for me in game. In no other city have I met more rude women but at the same time, because the women here are hot, I want to win here. I know that if I walk away not having giving it my all, I will live with a lot of regret.

It has been tough but I have developed in so many ways. Old me could have not gotten 4 lays in NYC in a week, new me did last year.

Once I determine that I have given it my all and that has not been good enough, then I will move out of here. I am just not going to do it knowing just how many careless mistakes I was making doing game here and just how bad crappy wingmen can hold you back.
 

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You get two kinds of Latinas in NYC

1. Ghetto/ratchet Latinas
2. Super white-washed self-hating Latinas that chase clout
Both sound annoying to me.

Miami might be downright tough for game but there are aspects to the city I enjoy.
I could say the same thing about Dallas, a very tough dating market as well.
 

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Both are quite annoying to deal with. In fact, I think the Puerto Rican women in the Tri-State area are even more awful than the Italian chicks there.
fixed it for you Jesse. Ellas estas bORiCuA
 

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Writing up field reports for the past week of approaches. Went out on Thursday of last week to a venue I like but almost no sets at all, really just proud of myself for showing up as I want to game at least 4 days a week. Next few reports will focus on my Friday and Saturday game adventures. Unfortunately, could not go out on Sunday because a friend was visiting and we hung out for way too long.
 

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July 28, back on that grind with the most unlikely c0ckblock.

11 approaches
4 closes

Went to the usual big bar near me that opened and went in with a new mentality. My thoughts were that at least 10% of girls are going to be b1tches and I just have to get good at dealing with rejection. No bitterness and must obey the 3 second rule which means approach a girl you find attractive within 3 seconds. Many mistakes were made but that is why I am upping the volume I go out at because I can then actively work on fixing those mistakes.

Could not get to the bar early enough since I had to get a freaking haircut and that took a while so I ended up getting there a little after 10, the lines were long.

I also implemented a strategy where I do at least 10 laps around the bar and then approach any girl I find attractive in that period, then I break and calm down a bit. Experimenting with new things here.

Approach 1

Approached a Latina two-set, it was a decent enough conversation but since it was days ago, I do not remember the exact specifics. They were friendly enough. Did not ask for a close though.

Approach 2

I cross paths with this one girl with white pants and open but she says "no thanks love". Then I remember that I approached her a few weeks ago. Man, Miami starts to feel small as a city after a while. Reflecting on my mistake, I approached her in a busy area of the bar where people are crossing through. IMO, this will always be a tough place to approach in so I should have almost waited and then headed back to approach? Definitely somewhat of a point to work on.

Approach 3 (2 closes)

As I try to get through one area of the venue, a group of people are taking who knows how many photos. I see a Latin two-set behind me and open with "f*ck it, let's crash their photo shoot". They laugh a bit but then we banter back and forth. They are clearly in a rush to see some friends so I ask for both of their numbers and get them, likely weak numbers though.

Approach 4

Approached this one brunette but again, tough part of the bar which was crowded and people were trying to pass through. I should have let it go and then approached her when she was in a less busy spot. You hold up traffic and people are just trying to move through.

Approach 5 (2 closes)

I take my laps around and see these two cute white girls standing around so I open them. One is wearing white pants and I tell her it is so Miami of her to do so since summer weather and all. Share my story of how easy it is to get white pants dirty at a club which they found funny. They recently graduated from the U and I come to find that one of them is my neighbors. The light-haired blonde is kind of just looking at me but the brunette in white pants is receptive. This is so far my longest set of the night.

Then I take to teasing them a bit and say "you know it gets better after college", they say "it doesn't". I say it depends on the city you move to, they say "eh not really". I name NYC and one of them hates it since she is from there, it's the brunette. I then say "yeah I was kidding life sucks after college" which they find hilarious. This set is practically going on forever it seems but I do not know what to do here at this point. It is a two-set and at this point we are somewhat mumbling.

Then they mention their TikTok and wanting to make it go viral and all. I end up asking for their IGs which they give me. Brunette followed me back like a day later, blonde did not. The bad news is that I saw them talking to 7 different dudes that whole night at the bar, welcome to Miami.

Approach 6

I approach a two set but notice that there is a group of 3 behind them, then I bail. Need to learn to read better but I am going go employ some tactics here. Just approach and then say "lemme guess, college friends". At this point, I just need to learn to work large sets....solo unfortunately since all of my good wingmen have moved on.

Approach 7

I see a cute redhead fixing the hair of her blonde friend and open with "your friend has done an amazing job, you look great", blonde strikes back with "no one was asking". Typical b1tchy small town conservative Karen response. I bail but wanted to drop a line to tell her "great, you don't want to know my actual opinion". Glad I didn't not worth a fight over something so trivial.

Approach 8

I open a 3-set with one girl who had a pretty orange dress. My opener is along the lines of "you three have got to be tourists, no way you are locals". They found it curious and I said they are not super flashy but come off as more natural with their style. Within seconds, come to find that they are a part of a larger group. The two uglier girls remain but the one hot girl in the orange dress I wanted is gone. I dip.

Approach 9 (worst girls all night)

I approach a two-set with opposing dresses and open with that. One is a ginger and the other a brunette. The ginger, in a German accent, says "we were having a conversation and are not interested in speaking with you". Ugh, typical Western European women, arguably the worst I have encountered in my time doing game.

Approach 10

I approach these two women but then a chubby nurse also comes into the picture, banter for a bit but find that the women are married. Ugh, screw this set.

Approach 11

I approach a 3-set but with poor game, that is on me.

The most unlikely ****block.

I was at an outdoors bar and it started to pour rain, my night ends after that.
 

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July 29, Daygame Potential buuuuuttttt

2 approaches
1 close that had serious potential


I have decided to daygame less and cut down on the time I do so. No more being out for 2+ hours to cold approach, I think 2 hours max is enough. Arrived after a busy day full of lots of worries from my personal life outside of game (which ended up all being okay).

Approach 1

I see these two hot girls on the street and go to approach them. Around them it looked like Worldstar lol. I end up opening them but they were waiting for an Uber. One girl was my type, she had that Megan Fox look which I go weak for. Nothing comes of it. My opener was that they are the best dressed women for an hour.

There is a bit of a lull where I chill and do no approaches but then....

Approach 2

I see this tanned brunette in a black dress and open her. Use the ACII by Austen Summers and tell her that she is dressed in a classy way by Brickell Standards. She takes well to it. I find that she is visiting from Boston and I talk to her a bit about that. She tells me that she is only in town for a night and goes back tomorrow. I try to tell her about a spot near me and she says she would be down to check it out but she has errands to run. I ask for her number and she gives it, liking my text as soon as I sent it.

I then try to figure out her logistics after the errands and then she says she has dinner with grandfather at 9 but it should not take that long for dinner. Like an idiot, I tell her that the place closes at 10 that I want to take her to but we can figure out other spots. She sounds down for it but then I end the set when I should have stayed in it way longer.

The good reception caught me totally by surprise. I could have:

1 - Asked for an Instant date

2 - Asked her to come have some margs before she goes as the marg place near me closes at 2 AM

So many mistakes on what would have been a lay.

We think we know it all and we think we can get success but then we miss a wide open goal. It is why gaming time and time again is so crucial so you stop making these sorts of careless mistakes. I know if my game was more advanced, this could have been a same day lay. I completely messed it up.

This is on me.
 

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I cross paths with this one girl with white pants and open but she says "no thanks love". Then I remember that I approached her a few weeks ago.
Hey bro. This kind of rubs me off the wrong way. Like you made so much cold approach on Miami you officially lap-ed around to her or something like that. Maybe, just maybe, its time to do something different.
 

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July 29th nightgame with a serious distraction.

14 approaches
2 real closes
7 "closes" (girls giving me their IG but eventually not accepting request a day later and such)


So Saturday was UFC 291 and I do not go crazy for most sports but the UFC is something else. It was the BMF belt but I thought I'd do some sets. Same mentality as yesterday night's nightgame. I was for sure coming off as strange as even some door guys saw me. Always tough to be that lone guy at the bar but I have no wings to rely on and I hate talking to guys at the bar because most of them are confrontational.

I do get to the spot earlier than usual though.

Approach 1

Blonde looking at the moon but it goes nowhere. I foolishly guess the wrong hand for her wedding ring, that is how off I was.

Approach 2 (1 of 2 close)

After a long lull, I approach this Latina two set and compliment the way they were dressed. They take well to it and have the same first names. It was a long set with a lot of potential but tbh, my game is super off for some reason starting the night. Maybe it is because of the stresses of the day but your boy was not sharp at all. I playfully teased the two girls and we had a great set going because it went for a while. One I liked in particular wore white pants so I told my white pants story and how easily they get dirty at the club. Gotta say, overall they were cool girls.

At this point, I am trucking through the interaction and trying to keep it going. I keep it going and it is a good varied interaction with some teasing of their personalities. One asks me which one I think is the serious one and I guess it right. However, when I ask for their IGs (should have done number), I get some of the letters wrong. Girl calls me out saying "you drunk bro haha". Yeah I was off but I do get them putting in their IGs on my phone only to be left on requested days later. Long set but once again, so much I could have done right.

Biggest problem? I asked both of their for their IGs but one had a BF so it was awkward asking the other one. I need to say "all 3 of us, let's stay in touch".

Approach 3

I approached a 3 set but remember little of it.

Approach 4 (2 close, my best set!)

I open these two Latinas, one had a long braided ponytail and I open her with that. The friend found it hilarious and they were a playful bunch. You are going to love this @logicallefty, they are both Puerto Rican. I tease one Latina about her ponytail and how she could whip someone with that, she found that hilarious. Then they tell me I sound very Southern because of the way I must be rolling my tongue, I joke and say "I do get told I am good with my tongue". They found it hilarious and I laugh saying "as in I speak well!", which they found even funnier.

Then a woman crashes the set but she talks to the other Latina as opposed to the one with the ponytail. I stick with ponytail and I even grab her ponytail, flailing it around. She playfully says "stop it", I do and say "I will, don't want you whipping me across the face with it, I will bleed". She found that funny. I try to get her logistics but she lives over 30 miles away, crap! I ask her how often she comes to Miami and she says often.

I get her IG and long story short, she followed me back the next day. We are DMing back and forth right now. I told her about the spot and all. Let's see how this goes but the approach I am most proud of, these girls were so cool.

Approach 5

Approached a two-set, not remembering much, did not go the best.

Approach 6

2 girls in black dress, I approach them as they are looking out and say "they went that way", they found it funny and made some small talk but the blonde was backing off. Brunette was feeling it but they had to meet with their friends.

Approach 7

Approach a girl in a ponytail, she is not receptive.

Approach 8 (2 fake closes)

I work up the courage to approach these two tall white girls, one blonde and one brunette. Bar worker was moving the trash can and they walked away. I open with "what are we running from? Let me know". They found it funny and we bantered for a few mins but my game was running dry. Asked for their IGs, they gave it and left me on requested. Told me they had to go which is why I asked. I walked around and kept seeing them, ugh that awkwardness.

Approach 9

Approached a two set but one "blonde" friend was a granny butterface, I noped out of there.

Approach 10

Approached 2 women who were married but their husbands were nearby and cool, so I had a cool convo with a doctor and a lawyer (yikes). Great crew but I left.

Approach 11

Try to approach girl in glasses, she is unreceptive and mean.

Approach 12

Approach girl in white dress, she had to run somewhere, to the bathroom.

Approach 13

Approach these two girls and it goes well enough but they were not down for the close.

Approach 14 (2 fake closes)

Approach these two girls standing near the trash can, it goes alright but then I get the close but it was not a real close
 

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Reflection on the weekend.

I was going to go out and daygame on Sunday but friend in town and I hung out, he had a lot to do with me and we just ate some good food, went touring the city, and I was not able to game. Goal is to game 4 of 7 days a week. Here are some of my reflections and lessons I want to apply the next time out.

I will not be gaming this coming weekend as I will be out of town, visiting family in North Carolina, not looking forward to it but family is family.

1. Perspective is everything. I am still relatively new at my new system. No more crap wings holding me back and no more sitting around like I did when I first started. I have had results in my year of doing this but as you can all see, it is a grind. So far, I have had my going out 4 times a week system going for a couple of weeks and it is still the summer. This is basically training camp before I get to the fall and things pick up.

2. Maybe @IKO69 @MixedMutt00 and other Miami locals can chime in but Miami does suck a lot in the summer. The heat makes people an extra level of cranky and even a lot of tourists don't come since it is so hot here. Hurricane season has started and up to November, it will start to be somewhat ambiguous. The best times for game in Miami are Jan to April, which I did not capitalize on due to my health care earlier in the year but I will surely be doing that in 2024 barring a serious emergency.

3. Get your sh1t straight on the days you game. I had to get a haircut on the Friday I went to game and I had to wait for the UFC on the Saturday. Friday brought heavy rains at night which messed up the outdoor bar and I was not able to quite get going. I need to schedule these things differently and give myself more of an ultimatum. A serious sporting event is on that I like? Then do that for the night so your head is not there but is more in the game. These things matter a lot.

4. Tease and escalate, stop doing this like a business chat. I feel like I have conquered AA and now need to focus more on what to do in set. My best sets? I teased and escalated. Results? The girls follow me back on IG and I am now DMing them. Tease and escalate so women remember you. I have always been scared to escalate physically but I feel like this is something I am working on as a sticking point in nightgame.

5. Momentum is everything and learn when to approach, get the dynamics and mechanics down right. Don't approach girls when they pass through a busy area of the bar, you are asking for a rejection. Approach them later on when they are not passing through as busy of an area or go walk back to them.

6. Aggressive and clutch, do not let opportunities slip. If a girl says she is down or is showing a hot buying temperature in daygame, instadate then and there. I had gone through so many rejections in daygame that I did not push things enough with the Boston girl. She seemed cool. I paid the price for it, could have been writing a different report for you all.

Lots of work to do but I most importantly....

Get out there and practice.

You may think you know it all and think you are good but then you get out there and have the screw up I did over the weekend and ask "how good am I really?". It is part of why I think as a forum, we need to have a more field report centric approach but I am not a leader here. I know in going out more often in the week, I will be able to find where I can use serious work, apply changes, and continue to do said work. Fall is around the corner and things will pick up. I need to make sure I am improving myself every week.

This weekend is gonna suck since I have to be in North Carolina but when I come back, it is no more excuses. We are doing this right this time. I do think I am moments away from sharing a lay report with you all sometimes.
 
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