Jealousy has me so confused?

[mrgoodstuff]

Funny thing is, it’s said to act like you don’t care to a girl.
I know people who chase and hound a girl and they get her, many a time.

A girl I was good friends with loved it when a new guy practically staked her. And if he played it cool she would forget about him and on to the next.

So if the game plan is to play it cool, how come the above succeeded? I had girls snatched from under me by guys with this borderline stalker behavior.

It depends upon th type of female . Some of them get excited by your intense interest . Others are the exact opposite. Intense interest shows too much attention and they get bored.

Maybe some females are like cats and others are like dogs .

 

[Jonnybravo]

It depends upon th type of female . Some of them get excited by your intense interest . Others are the exact opposite. Intense interest shows too much attention and they get bored.

Maybe some females are like cats and others are like dogs .

How would you gauge which ones to “stalk” and which ones to act careless about at the start?

I’m guess start with acting alof, throw a bit of interest and see do they follow up on it and chase. If not then chase a bit more yourself and judge the reaction, if they pull away you pull away.
If they seem to enjoy it then keep “stalking” them and blowing up they’re phone haha?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

How would you gauge which ones to “stalk” and which ones to act careless about at the start?

I’m guess start with acting alof, throw a bit of interest and see do they follow up on it and chase. If not then chase a bit more yourself and judge the reaction, if they pull away you pull away.
If they seem to enjoy it then keep “stalking” them and blowing up they’re phone haha?

I don't know . I just know for some females chasing them makes them lose interest.

Other females, your intense interest and desire is mirrored so it turns them on.

I would suspect most of the social media attention wh0res are like the cat. Attention is your currency. If you give it too easily it is devalued . They pursue guys like they are the hunter .

The woman you can chase will be more grounded, nice and feminine. So your intense efforts excite her . Just note, intense efforts on a attention wh0re do not work.

 

[Visionist]

Intense attention is reciprocal. Only give her a lot of attention if she is blatantly obsessed with you, shamelessly professing her attraction and desire through her actions, not simply her words.

 

[Jonnybravo]

Well I ended up talking to her yesterday, she initiated and after she initiated she went to one word responses. Only full response I got from her is when I said I’m done with all this and to leave me be, I was getting full sentences then.... not good ones! Just her being the victim and me being this and that for saying I’m done with it all.

Head totally f***ed for the night and emotionally drained. And I’m not even with the girl or had a date! I think even replying back for friendly small talk is a no go if I end up feeling no good after it.

I never usually get into situations like this, sometimes I don’t even bother texting back girls I’m really into. But for some reason I have this one on a pedestal and let her do this to me. Only I can stop it and I think full NC is the way to go. Or else or friendly chats will be endless mind games of hot and cold. Even if I’m not into a girl it’s the mind games do my head in.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Well I ended up talking to her yesterday, she initiated and after she initiated she went to one word responses. Only full response I got from her is when I said I’m done with all this and to leave me be, I was getting full sentences then.... not good ones! Just her being the victim and me being this and that for saying I’m done with it all.

Head totally f***ed for the night and emotionally drained. And I’m not even with the girl or had a date! I think even replying back for friendly small talk is a no go if I end up feeling no good after it.

I never usually get into situations like this, sometimes I don’t even bother texting back girls I’m really into. But for some reason I have this one on a pedestal and let her do this to me. Only I can stop it and I think full NC is the way to go. Or else or friendly chats will be endless mind games of hot and cold. Even if I’m not into a girl it’s the mind games do my head in.

She's using you for non sexual attention . She likes feeling a notch or two over you otherwise you would be fvcking her instead of on so suave.

 

[stovepipe]

Head totally f***ed for the night and emotionally drained. And I’m not even with the girl or had a date! I think even replying back for friendly small talk is a no go if I end up feeling no good after it.
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Not even a date? That should be all you need to constantly remind yourself to go and stay no contact. Imagine all the bs you'd go through in the long run. She's using you for attention. Is it worth it? Would you be losing respect for yourself if you continue? Your intuition is talking, but you aren't listening!

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Not even a date? That should be all you need to constantly remind yourself to go and stay no contact. Imagine all the bs you'd go through in the long run. She's using you for attention. Is it worth it? Would you be losing respect for yourself if you continue? Your intuition is talking, but you aren't listening!

Watch some "AMS" Vids. He nails down no no sex vs sexual attention . His system is similar to plates. It's accepting one is a player and the optimal way to do that.

 

[Soflobro#3]

read this forum for awhile but just joined up for advice. This girl I’m into for awhile (never went further than texting) she used always contact me but when she got a sniff that I was into her she played games!
Hot and cold, one word replies and all the usual stuff, I never chased her or double text, I’d ignore for days. I asked her out awhile back and she just replied “no I’m busy” very rude I thought. Anyway I pretended I had a date a few weeks later. She got curious as to who, one of her friends I told her haha!
She went crazy and blocked me off everything.
Her friend told me she’s into me so why play these games? Why reject me so rudely when I asked her out?
And was I to harsh in letting her think I dated her friend? What next........ ignore her and see if she comes back? Try make contact? Girls come and go but there’s always that one that gets into your head and plays with it. Thanks in advance

Stop worrying so much. I've found that when I work a lot, and generally I work using my hands so I don't have time to be texting, and after work I'm not only tried, but I'm getting ready for the next day because I need to eat a lot, I need clean clothes because I sweat and get dirty.

So being busy combined with seeing two women at the same time, they will be begging you for attention and it will pay off.

Most of my jobs have been very physically hard. I need to make sure I eat a lot, get as much sleep as possible (even though most likely it's been significantly inaduaquat) and simply my body hurts a lot of times.

But, this makes you hard, mentally and physically. But you'll not become rich this way. You will attract very feminine women this way.

You're not busy enough. You need more struggle in your life. So get busy.

Things are often counter intuative.

Beta f@ggits make the most money with minimal effort and need to consciously learn to play mind games like a woman.

To be honest, beta f@ggots make money the easiest, because they follow the rules and are obedient.

Western culture is unnatural, so of course true alpha males are kind of poor or very poor, and pandering beta , female like, f@ggots are kind of wealthy but get treated like dirt by women.

 

[Soflobro#3]

Sometimes wonder about some of you guys and the horror "bdp" stories about these women. Why would you even tolerate a woman treating you so poorly?

Sure women have been mean a$$ a$$holes to mr, jerked me around emotionally, but not fvcked me over financially, legally (even when I was committing crimes), and I doubt they cheated.

But honestly, I was being an a$$hole first so who am I to even complain. They were just fed up with my bull****.

 

[Soflobro#3]

Still I have love for them all because they did not fvck me over. I don't understand why. It makes no sense relatively speaking.

Why do they still act loyal even when they obviously dislike me and won't fvck me, yet will still give me money.

I don't understand.

 

[Jonnybravo]

Not even a date? That should be all you need to constantly remind yourself to go and stay no contact. Imagine all the bs you'd go through in the long run. She's using you for attention. Is it worth it? Would you be losing respect for yourself if you continue? Your intuition is talking, but you aren't listening!

Same again tonight but I cut it short, didn’t entertain it, my take on her is she wants attention off me and tries to make me suffer in the process. She dried up any small chance that I’d even entertain her again which did me a favor.
Yeah if it’s this much hard work and bs now, imagine how it would be if I was actually seeing her. No contact from tonight on. Leave her find a new toy. Thanks for the advice

 

[Jonnybravo]

Watch some "AMS" Vids. He nails down no no sex vs sexual attention . His system is similar to plates. It's accepting one is a player and the optimal way to do that.

I will check that out, thanks

 

[Jonnybravo]

Stop worrying so much. I've found that when I work a lot, and generally I work using my hands so I don't have time to be texting, and after work I'm not only tried, but I'm getting ready for the next day because I need to eat a lot, I need clean clothes because I sweat and get dirty.

So being busy combined with seeing two women at the same time, they will be begging you for attention and it will pay off.

Most of my jobs have been very physically hard. I need to make sure I eat a lot, get as much sleep as possible (even though most likely it's been significantly inaduaquat) and simply my body hurts a lot of times.

But, this makes you hard, mentally and physically. But you'll not become rich this way. You will attract very feminine women this way.

You're not busy enough. You need more struggle in your life. So get busy.

Things are often counter intuative.

Beta f@ggits make the most money with minimal effort and need to consciously learn to play mind games like a woman.

To be honest, beta f@ggots make money the easiest, because they follow the rules and are obedient.

Western culture is unnatural, so of course true alpha males are kind of poor or very poor, and pandering beta , female like, f@ggots are kind of wealthy but get treated like dirt by women.

I work and only have one day a week off, kept very busy so I neglected my social life somewhat. Don’t get to see my friends as much or meet new people (girls) will have to make some changes and work on the social aspect

 

[Jonnybravo]

Sometimes wonder about some of you guys and the horror "bdp" stories about these women. Why would you even tolerate a woman treating you so poorly?

Sure women have been mean a$$ a$$holes to mr, jerked me around emotionally, but not fvcked me over financially, legally (even when I was committing crimes), and I doubt they cheated.

But honestly, I was being an a$$hole first so who am I to even complain. They were just fed up with my bull****.

I’ve been messed over emotionally over making excuses for the bad behavior and only seeing good in them. As for financially or legally then I can’t say I have or would. That kind of behavior is to obvious and I couldn’t make excuses in my head for it. Would instantly make me loose all feelings, I’d give anyone anything, but if I think a girl or a friend is a taker then they wouldn’t get a penny from me

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I will check that out, thanks

If your not going to be settling down for the next several years, your gonna focus on your purpose and grow and ya want your highest puzsy rate do it how it's done .

 

[Jonnybravo]

I’ve being doing a lot of observation since I started to follow this site and get advice from you all and I want to share what I noticed....

Wanting what you can’t have.... this week alone I had 3 girls offer me sex, two text me first and the third I txt out of the blue and after 5 texts she was offering it. Neither of these girls I’m interested in.
One of them is very popular and has practically a fan base on social media of the usual AFC commenting on every picture posted.

With these girls I’m not interested one bit. I loose total interest when it’s offer to me on a plate, I like to work a little for it. More I’m not interested the more they are begging and sending picture to entice me. More they are begging the less I’m responding because as I said it’s a turn off.

2 other girls I’m texting, one is the girl I originally posted about (she’s actually gone for good now) and the other is an ex from years back who I would love to smash. Now these two girls know my intentions as I gave off the wiff of neediness, and the ex backed off me and the other original girl turned into such an attention seeker and game player and I to stop for my own sanity!

Point is I have 3 good looking girls offering it to be in one week and practically begging for it.
If I showed interest in them or neediness do you think I would even get a reply? No!


As I’m here I met this girl while walking my dog (dog can be your best wingman/woman) anyway she was open and receptive to me, chatted away all friendly for about 10 mins. She doesn’t seem the type I could say “hey baby wanna hold this” too haha. She seems outgoing but respectable.

I don’t want to look desperate asking straight out for her number. How is the best approach for when I next see her and we have friendly chat? How would you guys bag this one? Thanks

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I’ve being doing a lot of observation since I started to follow this site and get advice from you all and I want to share what I noticed....

Wanting what you can’t have.... this week alone I had 3 girls offer me sex, two text me first and the third I txt out of the blue and after 5 texts she was offering it. Neither of these girls I’m interested in.
One of them is very popular and has practically a fan base on social media of the usual AFC commenting on every picture posted.

With these girls I’m not interested one bit. I loose total interest when it’s offer to me on a plate, I like to work a little for it. More I’m not interested the more they are begging and sending picture to entice me. More they are begging the less I’m responding because as I said it’s a turn off.

2 other girls I’m texting, one is the girl I originally posted about (she’s actually gone for good now) and the other is an ex from years back who I would love to smash. Now these two girls know my intentions as I gave off the wiff of neediness, and the ex backed off me and the other original girl turned into such an attention seeker and game player and I to stop for my own sanity!

Point is I have 3 good looking girls offering it to be in one week and practically begging for it.
If I showed interest in them or neediness do you think I would even get a reply? No!


As I’m here I met this girl while walking my dog (dog can be your best wingman/woman) anyway she was open and receptive to me, chatted away all friendly for about 10 mins. She doesn’t seem the type I could say “hey baby wanna hold this” too haha. She seems outgoing but respectable.

I don’t want to look desperate asking straight out for her number. How is the best approach for when I next see her and we have friendly chat? How would you guys bag this one? Thanks

Take some of the pvssy or bj being offered . Sex is part of game. You need to be having it . How would you like it if when your games tighter most women behave like this towards you? You going to be turned off that it's easy for you? Fvck all three bytches this week and pat yourself on the back.

 

[Jonnybravo]

Take some of the pvssy or bj being offered . Sex is part of game. You need to be having it . How would you like it if when your games tighter most women behave like this towards you? You going to be turned off that it's easy for you? Fvck all three bytches this week and pat yourself on the back.

Il pat myself on the back if it’s all 3 at the same time in the same bed haha. Sounds made up I know, but it’s 100%, not like that all the time but this week it’s 3, it’s always either a feast or a famine

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Il pat myself on the back if it’s all 3 at the same time in the same bed haha. Sounds made up I know, but it’s 100%, not like that all the time but this week it’s 3, it’s always either a feast or a famine

Just jump right into "AMS" style plate/rotation strategy. I think you will be ****ing most of em going forward .