Jealous Beta Fag Friends

[floydb25]

^ Again, YES! Especially the very last part. It's ALL about being better and appearing more cool to OTHERS. That's why things like bullying occur - it makes them look cool and superior in front of others. It does NOT happen in private. They do it to gain a positive reaction from the "crowd". That's why people appearing different or better are singled out.

Most people are fake as ****, and following, pretending little *****es with nothing going for them.

 

[tryst type]

Can't the others see what they're doing? Does it really impress the masses?

 

[floydb25]

I don't think they realize OR care. It's all about status and reputation to these homo's, and how they perceive the world to operate. Since they're retarded, shallow, and useless - they assume everyone thinks like them, and their gossiping boyfriends. What they THINK makes them look cool just makes them look like retarded monkeys. But they're too empty and insecure to care, and just want to fit in with the other douchebags. They're all fake, very immature, easy to spot, and best avoided. Everyone in their "crowd" is just as retarded as them.

 

[tryst type]

I don't think they realize OR care. It's all about status and reputation to these homo's, and how they perceive the world to operate. Since they're retarded, shallow, and useless - they assume everyone thinks like them, and their gossiping boyfriends. What they THINK makes them look cool just makes them look like retarded monkeys. But they're too empty and insecure to care, and just want to fit in with the other douchebags. They're all fake, very immature, easy to spot, and best avoided. Everyone in their "crowd" is just as retarded as them.

Yes, but do others that aren't part of the group see right through them or in fact see them as false sense of "cool" ie my Instagram post available for anyone to view and read his comment in response to mine.

 

[floydb25]

Yes, they do. The problem with these douchebags is, they think they have power over other people, that how they think is the same as everyone else, and can pursuade them by claiming superiority over you. If THEY don't like you - even out of jealousy or spite - no one else is allowed to. When it doesn't work - they act like spoiled children and try bullying their way. Weak and pathetic.

Guys used to bully me in front of others, point out flaws, etc, to keep themselves above me - and pursuade those around me. They didn't want me attracting women, being better friends with THEIR friends, having higher status, being more social and likeable, etc. But it didn't pursuade anyone, and was occuring at the same time as these events. It was all about ego, competition, and insecurity - and only the losers and pretenders were doing it.

Let me give you an example of how fake these *******s were... I used to be a virgin, and told everyone about it - thinking it made me look good... ha ha! So, I'd be attracting *****es - and they wouldn't attract **** - like usual... They told anyone and everyone that I was a virgin, inexperienced, etc, to make me look bad. When it didn't work, and only made the girls MORE interested - they'd turn around and tell all the girls THEY were virgins. How fake and pathetic can you be? Then they'd turn around and act like I was the one who needed help. Seriously... I never say this, but literally, ROFLMAO

In their minds, I COULDN'T attract women, and being a virgin was a flaw, and I was "ugly"... which turned out to be false. Simple minds, indeed. When they found this out, and everything I was doing was attracting them like crazy - they'd mimic everything I did. IE, being laid back, nonchalant, letting girls come to me, not showing any interest, but still socializing and being interesting, etc. If I got a nice TV or pimped out clothes - they'd do the same. Same with the car, or whatever.

Too bad it didn't work for them, since they weren't attractive or interesting or "cool" or funny... which just pissed them off more. Ha Ha... Love it. But it's definitely ALL about being the top dog, and trying to influence others and belittling the "competition" to make it so.

But no, it doesn't work. Nothing they said or did mattered. Women were still attracted, friends were still friends, people still avoided them in front of me... at the same time as they were trying to one-up me; backstab, gossip, talk ****, etc. They'd even attack me AS women were flirting and complimenting, or showing sexual interest. Or claiming the exact opposite as the situation was occuring.

A lot of people are ****ing losers, man. They only THINK they know everything and speak for everyone, and are special snowflakes. They're all talk. Avoid these fake *******s with **** personalities and nothing going for them. All they can do is talk **** about others, steal ideas, compete, and bully. They're big time pretenders and haters with superiority complexes who love to attack and keep people on the defensive. As well as keeping everyone "in line"; at the status quo, and beneath them at all times. **** all that, and **** them, too.

 

[floydb25]

Honestly, those types of people used bother me. I've had friends say little slights and snide remarks, I've had backstabbers try to get my girl or date them as soon as I break up with them. It used to kill me (this is high school, early college). Why? Because I had low self esteem, I didn't think I was that attractive or that I deserved what I had. After a while I smartened up. I realized they couldn't talk to new chics like I could. I realized they were more afraid of living their life than I was and I was freaking terrified. It made them and the women who settled for my friends seem very small to me.

I might be narcissistic now because it doesn't bother me anymore. It's a huge ego boost for me. Take my leftovers bro, try to tear me down bro. You can't get your own chic? LOOOOOOL. Weak sauce. Obviously I'm a threat to you and I'm glad you know it. haha. Stick around you might learn something haha. Also it's great because then the chic is like, did you even care? And it sours their whole relationship because that's my bro and she's gotta see me not give a fvck all the time.

The other thing is this. I get along better now with the guys I used to be intimidated by. The good looking guys or guys with money or status. I see them as my equals (and some as less than my equals). But the minute a guy exhibits these kinds of traits, I know I am above him and I can use him or dismiss him (or destroy him) and not feel bad about it.

I dunno what's changed but lately I've been feeling like a cold hearted bastard, I guess suffering does that.

RIGHT ON. Definitely gotta own up to your successes, and NOT let people tear you down or take them away. Dish that **** right back, and stand up for yourself. In addition to suffering from low SE, I used to be a fairweather guy who was easily pursuaded, manipulated, and pushed around. I let everyone control and define me, and ended up with nothing. So much for people having your best interests at heart, eh?

It doesn't make you conceited or narcissistic, IMO. It's reality, and you know it. Even as people (losers) were attacking, judging, and controlling me, I knew something was up. It wasn't happening for no reason. Why do I have all these friends, women flirting and showing sexual interest, and all these LOWER people with NOTHING going for them are competing, down-sizing, attacking, controlling, and trying to bring me down AT THE SAME TIME? Why are none of their claims - or how their ego wants things to be - not matching reality? Why am I so much more successful without them? Why is all of their so-called help and advice dog**** - with the attempt to bring me beneath them, so they can feel better about themselves? Why is everyone attacking my (nice) ****, and pointing out my perceived flaws? Why did none of this occur when I was literally a nobody?

Because they're loser ass hating little jealous *****es, that's why. They don't have ****, can't get or attract ****, so they talk **** to those who can and do instead. ****ing FACT. Yea, I'm so ugly... that's why all the girls are avoiding you in favor of me. Yea, she's out of my league... that's why she's flirting with and initiating sex with me. Oh, she just wants to be friends - because your ugly ass gets rejected constantly, by everyone. I have nothing you want... that's why you're competing with me over EVERYTHING, on a constant basis. Yet at the same time, they ALWAYS let **** slide at least one time inbetween their ****-talking. They ask if I'll sell my car (despite it being a piece of ****), say I'm very attractive at one point, I have more friends than them, etc. Hate fake faggots. Everything they claim is how they WANT things to be - not how they are.

You absolutely cannot let this **** get to you. Sufficient SE is a MUST if you want to succeed. As is not associating with failure-ridden losers. It doesn't make you stuck up, because they'll just tear you down if you do. Waste of time. **** what other people think, or how they want things to be. They're going to judge, gossip, and assume / talk **** about you regardless. Do NOT let them bring you down, and make you become a hating, miserable faggot like them. Let them drown in their own misery and failure. Believe NOTHING, and let NO ONE pursuade you negatively or bring you down. They aren't the royal judge of ****.

To that end:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LtXrgbZALE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV2ssT8lzj8

Love this guy, and can relate to everything he says, and has been through. *****, you get no love! :rockon:

Edit to add: Why, also, are successful, attractive guys NOT talking ****, and mentioning my successes / attractiveness as positives? Because you're a ****ing faggot loser who wants to bring everyone down with his worthless ass. Enjoy your fat wife, your piece of **** car, and drunken-loser warehouse-working ugly ass scrub ***** butt-buddies. HA HA! :nono:

 

[OldGoat]

Cant trust anyone. cant trust my mind. cant trust the world. I personally dont like to categorize people in terms of beta" alpha" or omega. People are much more complex. I could be beta or even omega guy I have significant amount of psychological traits that would probably fit into a omega jealous type. Anyone who is successful is going to be a target imo.

 

[Stagger Lee]

The worst part about people like this is they talk crap about you behind your back and to girls. And anytime a girl or even other guys hears something derogatory about you even if it's obviously baseless, it can really harm your reputation.

Most of what these jealous a-holes do is behind your back and people talking trash about you can effect your status and reputation. That's what really sucks about it.

 

[Married Buried]

This is why I got rid of my so called friends. They were like this. I don't need some player hating pricks smiling in my face and plotting behind my back. **** them all. No friends needed.

 

[ludis]

A friend who respects you, looks up to you.

A "friend" who disrespects you, tries to look down on you.

All you need to distinguish who's who, is a pair of eyes.

 

[tryst type]

My old best friend is having a birthday bash this Sunday and 85% of me doesn't even want to attend because all his new friends will be there and they're the type that live their lives unconsciously concerned with what people think of them.

They're the ones on every social media site seeking approval of their lives and they get it from the same shallow people. Though they'll never admit it and will even down talk the sites while seconds later are posting something.

I don't like being around these people it's depressing, a reminder that these days genuine people are far and few. I'm looked at as an outcast to them because I don't have Facebook and because I date random women while they're all settled and moving towards "the American dream"

I've learned to appreciate and prefer to be alone these days.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Lots of wise responses so far.

Seems this is just part of being a DJ. The majority of men walking the earth a beta faggots. I've said it many times. So if you're not a beta faggot, the majority of men on earth will be jealous of you and out to drag you down.

To be a DJ is to be loved by women and hated by most men. This crap is pretty common. I have two other friends who are on my level and they get the same sh!t. Some of their "friends" have come to me and talked sh!t about them behind their back trying to ruin their reputation. Insulting them, down playing their success with women, etc. These morons think they are turning me against them, but in fact they are only making themselves look like vile trash that can't be trusted. Good job! :rock:

My old best friend is having a birthday bash this Sunday and 85% of me doesn't even want to attend because all his new friends will be there and they're the type that live their lives unconsciously concerned with what people think of them.

They're the ones on every social media site seeking approval of their lives and they get it from the same shallow people. Though they'll never admit it and will even down talk the sites while seconds later are posting something.

I don't like being around these people it's depressing, a reminder that these days genuine people are far and few. I'm looked at as an outcast to them because I don't have Facebook and because I date random women while they're all settled and moving towards "the American dream"

I've learned to appreciate and prefer to be alone these days.

Yep.. this is why I don't get too close with anyone. I operate best as a lone wolf because its the most healthy and least stressful. Its lonely at the top.

I'm very protective of myself and don't open up much to people. Sometimes this pisses them off (especially women) but I know they're only looking for power and ammo they can use against me later if I upset them in some way.

Lets be honest.. how interested are we REALLY in other people? Most of the time when you're digging for dirt.. you have bad intentions or you want more power over that person. People who try to pry into your business want influence and power over you. Never forget that --> Knowledge is power.

My two other DJ friends who are not beta fags have never tried to pry into my business. They are also very secretive themselves. They know how it works. My one bro said: "I don't ask a lot of questions because I don't like to answer a lot of questions." We both laughed about it. Amen to that.

 

[tryst type]

^ indeed my man. Also what you said about your beta friends talking down about others to ruin their reputation, one friend of mine does that about all his friends (me included) to any girl he is currently dating.

Sad thing is, I think it works. I've had people especially girls straight up say "I know about you and how you talk to girls, you're creepy" it's definitely made me stay clear of friends of friends because I'm not about to defend myself over some false rep given by an insecure friend.

Funny thing is, when they say I'm "creepy" it's because apparently I'm friendly and easily tease/flirt with any girl and give a vibe that I'm too comfortable. I guess that's a creepy quality? Tsk tsk

 

[floydb25]

Player: Agreed. The ONLY people who try to get involved in everyone else's affairs, and pry for their personal information, and try being (fake) friends with everyone are the losers. And they only do it so they can feel better about themselves by looking down on others - AFTER bringing them down to their level. They have NO lives or success of their own, and spend all of their time gossiping, judging, defining, criticizing, belittling, and competing against others. All they do is hate on everyone, and try to have their hands in everything. Nothing positive to say about anything or anyone; always looking for flaws, weaknesses, and insecurities to exploit. Parasites, really. They literally get off on seeing other people fail.

On the flip side, they like to brag about their so-called accomplishments, talk about how awesome they are (and everything they have is), say they can get this or that (while acting like no one else could - despite the opposite being true), make up excuses for why they don't have ****, try to tell everyone else what they're doing wrong, what their flaws are, and what they need to do, how to live their lives, etc, etc. Ego is rampant, because it's all they have.

Pretty much the definition of a loser, and these people are everywhere. They also love to follow (while acting they're leading), and act like they're top dog, and judge / treat people by their perceived status. Many of the other statements brought up here are also true.

Behind it all - they're nothing more than fake, weak, insecure, two-faced cowards with a life filled with failure, rejection, abandonment, and misery. They aren't "cool", "interesting", or "successful" AT ALL. Most of what they claim about others is simply a projection of their own flaws, insecurities, shortcomings, and failures. They also LOVE to pretend and sabotage others. You'll find them becoming "loud" around others as they're attacking them - because they're only doing it for approval and acceptance... much like everything else they do. They take sides and bully constantly.

People with lives, successes, and things going for them DON'T act this way. Only the losers know everything about everyone, talk **** about everything and everyone, and become "loud" and attack people when others are around (or behind their backs).

 

[OldGoat]

Accomplishments is not authentic self esteem. Its pseudo self esteem. imo I can project to the world that Im a macho, strong, successful and confident person and yet still tremble with fear out of my own insecurities.

 

[Zunder]

I wouldn't call them beta... more like douchebag wanna-be players who thought they were hot ****.

Here's what I learned about people... nobody wants to see you rise above them, and prefer you remain below them... the more success you acquire - the more they will try to sabotage, tear you down, and make you fail. There's a lot of ego, jealousy, and competition out there, and most people prefer that you fail. When I was attracting women everywhere, and getting attention and compliments - the hate was FIERCE. Men attacked me left and right, but at least now I know why. Ironic how guys would say I was ugly, pinpoint my weaknesses and flaws, etc, AS women were avoiding them in favor of me, and complimenting me in front of their face... even their GF's and wives. All they could do was attack and lie about their achievements. Pretenders make me laugh.

So, I just fly solo now. I used to befriend everybody, and invite them into my life; was an open book everywhere... bad idea. People never helped me gain success - they only tried to take it away, to claim superiority over me. Nor was any of the assumed respect given. Hell, I didn't even NEED their help, and they added nothing positive or valuable to my life AT ALL. I was just very insecure and suffered from low SE - which they made worse, and set me in the direction to fail.

Lessons learned. Most people aren't successful or knowledgeable or advisive, or even worth a damn. No sense sharing weaknesses and vulnerabilities if they're NOT going to help, and just use them against you to feel better about themselves... ESPECIALLY if you're already more successful than them. People don't like that, and prefer you fail and "whine".

This has been my exact same experience almost to a T.
Finding a good friend, mate, confidant, bro -- whatever term you want to call it, is almost on a level of difficulty as finding a decent woman.

Never be afraid to be "alone". People (male & female) will attempt to mock people that prefer their own company as 'loners'. That is just a reaction to their own insecurities as they can not bear the thought that they may ever have to rely on themselves in this big bad world.
It's all BS.

Be your own man, and fvck everyone else. Let them come to you, but choose very, very wisely whom you befriend.

 

[Zunder]

Lots of wise responses so far.

Seems this is just part of being a DJ. The majority of men walking the earth a beta faggots. I've said it many times. So if you're not a beta faggot, the majority of men on earth will be jealous of you and out to drag you down.[/B]:rock:[/B]

Unfortunately I think this is true. Think about it......it is usually only in sports, or on the battlefield that all the BS is put aside and true male camaraderie takes place.

 

[zekko]

Men are kind of like bucks (male deer) in the wild. They are going to be competitive and butt heads to try to be on top. It's no coincidence everybody talks about being, or wanting to be, the alpha male on here.

I remember in my 20s, I'd say most of my friendships had a competitive edge or rivalry aspect to them. Now that I'm older, not to so much. But a young guy is going to want to test himself and pit himself against others to see what is possible.

To some extent, most guys on here want to be able to have women coming to them and have their choice of women. They want to be able to pick the most beautiful for themselves. This, almost by definition, means they have to be above the other men, and the other men have to be below them - at least in regard to skill with women.

I think most men want this for themselves (even if they have no clue how to get it). So it's not surprising when they react with anger when you outperform them.

 

[Married Buried]

Why do we need friends when we have sosuave? I used to need friends when I was single. They were cool to go hang out with. They used to be big weed smokers too. That's really the main reason I used to hang out with them. They taught me a little about game, but they never got laid. The chics usually turned them down. Then I realized they were hating on me behind my back, so I told them to f/ck off.

Never looked back after that, and I don't give a sh!t what happened to them. According to facebook they are both divorced with kids and ugly ex wives.

 

[goodganji44]

What these "beta faggots" will never learn is that the guys who achieved DJ status had to do so through experience. Instead they go along with the crowd. There's people at my job who are exactly like what PHM mentioned.

I once felt like I was at the lower echelon in my beta days. Instead of ragging on people, I sat back observed and and absorbed their traits on what worked and applied them to my own game. I felt comfortable enough in admitting that I sucked with women and did my best to learn from those who were far ahead of the game than I was.

Those same guys who are at that level are usually glad to give you tips if you just ask for help. But not everyone is willing to swallow enough humble pie to do so.