Japan - The Land Of Plenty For The AFC

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10 Things Foreign Guys Do To Make Japanese Girls Fall Head Over Heels

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1. A real proposal
“His proposal was amazing! He actually got down on one knee and, while looking straight into my eyes, said: “Will you marry me?” Then he handed me a diamond ring!” (31-years-old/Japanese, 34-year-old/English)

2. Flattering text messages
“His texts always start with ‘To the most beautiful girl in the world’. I think being able to use a phrase like that naturally is something only foreigners can do.” (26/Japanese, 29/Spain)

3. Makeup flowers
“He sends a bouquet of flowers to my apartment or work after we get in a fight. It’s embarrassing but I think it’s sweet.” (29/Japanese, 27/English)

4. Mornings just like in the movies
“On days off he makes breakfast for me while I’m still in bed and wakes me up by kissing me while saying ‘Hurry, I want to see myself in those beautiful eyes’. It’s like something from a movie scene, I never thought I’d experience it myself.” (33/Japanese, 37/French)
I guess it's all relative. In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
 

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I've only been overseas in Ireland...I'm from the US and I didn't notice much change. Honestly I think some women are just more likely to enjoy the rom-com lifestyle than others. I know plenty of chicks that get cised for a bad boy that doesn't give a sh!t about them. I also know a lot of chicks that get wet for a nice guy who shows them a rom-com time.

Unfortunately I am attracted to white females with dark hair and blue eyes, with a bangin body. They fall in the category of entitled females who has no interest in white knights...which is why I employ absolute high-alpha game all the time...mixed in with some vulnerability game. Never give them the extreme of either, but play pretty hard on one or the other. Sprinkle in some of the other to give them a taste of what they're missing.

I've never been much for Asian chicks.
 

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Look at the ages. Call me when it's 18-24 year olds saying this stuff.
 

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As much as that article sounds like something that came out of Japanese Cosmo, there is quite an element of truth to it.

If I were to help fill in the details, this sounds like a typical scenario of a Beta white male courting a Japanese HB whose looks are <8 on a scale of 10.

In Japan, the alpha male is extremely scarce, but they are some of the alpha-est of the alpha-est f'ing males you'll ever see (ever see those samurai movies where they don't hesitate to cut open their own stomachs with a samurai sword or yakuzas going gangbusters? You'll see that vibe in the Japanese alpha). The hottest Japanese girls (8.5+ Japanese HBs) who have access to these alphas will never I mean NEVER take a beta white dood over the true Japanese alpha male.

In Japan, the % of beta males is unusually higher than other countries (most likely due to culture) and the elite will only have access to the extremely rare alphas. It's sad enough that doing the things in the checklist is perceived as "alpha". Yup THAT'S how beta most Japanese males are. In my opinion, they are the beta-est of all Asian males out there.
 

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taiyuu_otoko said:
10 Things Foreign Guys Do To Make Japanese Girls Fall Head Over Heels

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I guess it's all relative. In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

I don't think any of this is AFC, necessarily.

I could see where you are coming from, but if you read into it differently, these acts could well be committed by pretty alpha males.

I don't think sending flowers or complimenting your woman makes you an

average,

frustrated,

chump

automatically.

Now I give more credit to one recent thread started by Monsieur Zekko.
 

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In East Asia, females at those ages are considered well expired. Their family would've given up on pressuring them for marriage a few years earlier. Of course said beta moves would be well received, despite the fact that Asian women do have a higher tolerance for beta behaviours.

Another factor that you haven't considered is the foreigner one. Foreigners can get away with saying beta sh1t in the local language that a local guy can't, especially if said foreigners are from countries regarded by the locals as "romantic". White guys are, for some reason, stereotyped as more romantic by Asians. I've seen something similar in Australia. Aussie women swoon when French or Spanish speaking men say the cheesiest romantic sh1t to them in a broken mix of French / Spanish and English. If an Aussie guy says it to them, they'd laugh their heads off.
 

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Jitterbug said:
Another factor that you haven't considered is the foreigner one. Foreigners can get away with saying beta sh1t in the local language that a local guy can't, especially if said foreigners are from countries regarded by the locals as "romantic". White guys are, for some reason, stereotyped as more romantic by Asians. I've seen something similar in Australia. Aussie women swoon when French or Spanish speaking men say the cheesiest romantic sh1t to them in a broken mix of French / Spanish and English. If an Aussie guy says it to them, they'd laugh their heads off.
Yep. The allure of that enticing greasy Spanish guy with a "sexy" accent is so remarkable for US women. The dude could be saying "butt crickets live in my nose" but the chick will never know. They get away with saying some romantic sh!t. If any white dude tries it though, he is regarded as beta extreme.
 

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I agree with boilermaker. Expressing your emotions is not afc, expressing you emotions uncontrollably is afc.

I'm Chinese and my mom used to say to me when i was a child and would cry "Son, men shed blood before tears." It's an old chinese proverb that you can see repeated over and over in many movies.
 

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Wow those examples sound awful. But then again, look at who's doing them: chumpy AFC white guys who can't get laid in their own countries. So I can't say I'm surprised.

The real question is: why do Japanese porn stars have ginormous bushes? I don't understand. I'd enjoy rubbing one out to a little smooth Japanese chick every once in awhile, but they always got that huge black bush. :(
 

Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.

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I was in Tokyo for 8 days last year.....My impression
I'm 46, so I kind of gravitate towards women in their 30's.....
I saw very few availible looking women in that age bracket when I was there....almost all the good looking women I saw over the age of 30 were towing young children.
I'm 5'10'' and consider myself pretty good looking. I could easily go up to any young chick in the subways and ask for directions, and our chats would immediatly turn into a longer conversation, but I was just kind of flirting for the hell of it, I wasn't desperatly looking to bang any of them if it meant too much of a time sacrafice away from my sightseeing plans.
I went to Roponngi (the party area for foreigners....My least favorite part of Tokyo....There's all these Nigerian hustlers who hit you up ...."Hey....Come here !!! Sexy girls here !!!"...These dudes were really pushy....)
Anyway, I went into this one club, and there were more White dudes there than Japanese chicks. Most of the guys were Brits and Aussies. But the bottom line was that there was an off ratio for picking up babes. If you saw a pretty girl and were talking to her, if you left her to go to the bathroom, there would be a big group of guys surrounding her when you returned.
I ended up spending the evening with these two cute girls who were in their mid twenties and were flight attendents. I know, but trust me when I say that it SOUNDS better than it actually was....
They had very low alcohol tollerence and were soon stumbling around....I have alot of girlfriends anyway....so I wasn't desperate for sex....I don't drink either, so I saw little appeal in banging a very drunk chick while being sober myself. I saw one of them on the train on the way back to my Ryoken. I probably could have played the "White Knight" and offered to take her home after the subway, but I passed on the opportunity because it was the last train and I didn't have enough money for a cab on me.
I have seen many White male/ Japanese female couples both here and over there. Some of these guys look like really weak dorks and the chicks are kind of hot. My sincere opinion is that these guys actually commited and MARRIED the woman. I have this feeling that Japanese chicks are good at smelling out which White guys want to just bang them, and which White guys are looking to get married. Only my opinion.........
 

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Ya, I see similar stuff over here in BJ. A lot of dorky beta dudes scoring real easy. Alot of direct stuff will turn them off but then again I've had some luck going real direct and forthcoming. Once they know you are cool you can swoop on in.

Hmm, I met one girl in HK, went over to her pad awhile after hit it in all 3 then went to the living room to check my email on her computer. Oh nice, the desktop was her and her dorky beta white bf.. oh and he was on one knee kneeling and kissing her hand as she looked up at the sky.. so even if they do have the beta guy, they probably having some other fun on the DL.
 

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3countriesPlan said:
Ya, I see similar stuff over here in BJ. A lot of dorky beta dudes scoring real easy. Alot of direct stuff will turn them off but then again I've had some luck going real direct and forthcoming. Once they know you are cool you can swoop on in.

Hmm, I met one girl in HK, went over to her pad awhile after hit it in all 3 then went to the living room to check my email on her computer. Oh nice, the desktop was her and her dorky beta white bf.. oh and he was on one knee kneeling and kissing her hand as she looked up at the sky.. so even if they do have the beta guy, they probably having some other fun on the DL.
I'm going to ask this question again: HOW OLD ARE THE WOMEN? Betas can get women in the west too if they settle for women past their physical prime. That's not saying much about the women in these countries if they're in their late 20s and 30s.
 

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hmm, I was going for 19-23s so most of my adventures are with those age girls, lately been going for 25-29 year olds, and alot of hot 19-23s go for betas but will cheat and run for playas...one example my classmate david bacj in the day and his korean gf who went off and cheated with a playa we called "small kay" he was 6'4" so was just a joke name
 

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Nutz said:
I'm going to ask this question again: HOW OLD ARE THE WOMEN? Betas can get women in the west too if they settle for women past their physical prime. That's not saying much about the women in these countries if they're in their late 20s and 30s.
I have got to get off this forum. I'll be 52 soon.
Do you know how good women in their late 20s and 30s look to me right now?
I know the prime age for them is around 18-24, but by now at that age they're a little too immature for me anyway.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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zekko said:
I have got to get off this forum. I'll be 52 soon.
Do you know how good women in their late 20s and 30s look to me right now?
I know the prime age for them is around 18-24, but by now at that age they're a little too immature for me anyway.

True, true. The trick is to find one with maturity. My gf fits the bill and we get along great--I'm 35 and she's 22. IMO women in their mid 20s look way better than women my own age, so I can empathize with your position. Still, there's no reason you couldn't land a woman 20-30 years younger, you just have to be discriminating.
 
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