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Bond has always been known as a smooth operator with the ladies over the years , for me the character balances the art of seduction perfectly

I was re watching Casino Royale last night and I picked up on a lot of writing & screenplay I hadn't necessarily noticed before

In nearly every interaction with females in the movie bond treats them like they are children he largely refuses to take any of them seriously but he does it in a way that is so calm and charming by the time the woman realises what's happened she's already seduced and ready to sleep with him

When asked a question by a woman bond answers vaguely creating mystery

there's a particularly interesting scene at the start when bond wins Dimitrios Aston Martin in poker and then proceeds to seduce his wife (Solange) up

Bond asks if he can give her a life home

Solange: " that would really pi$$ my husband off, I'm not sure I am that cruel"

Bond: " maybe you are just out of practice " ........ here bond plants a seed in her mind and also indicates he's not going to judge her for betraying her husband but rather he is encouraging it (classic bad boy behaviour )

Solange - laughs

Bond: " perhaps a drink at my place then "

Solange : your place. ? , is it close ?

Bond : "very"

Then we enter around 15 seconds of the pair making intense eye contact , Solange gets excited and submits to bonds will ......

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This encounter was fascinating for me because bond takes this woman through a range of emotions , whilst also having fun AND remaining mysterious

when she asks where he is staying so many men would have gone into great detail trying to sell both themselves and the idea to the woman

Bond simply answers with one vague word ........and the female is hooked

later on in the movie bonds encounters Vesper and this is a much more difficult and complex seduction


A lot of lessons on how to handle women in this movie and the writers have gone to great lengths too highlight bonds womanising , I highly recommend studying it
 

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While it is definitely a nice way to act, you gotta remember that Bond:

1. Its jacked
2. Has tons of money
3. Its the best super spy in the world
4. Has tons of practice seducing women

All of that creates a confidence like no other, I mean, pretty much there is no competition.
Don't forget he has a license to kill. Don't try to amog the guy.
 

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While it is definitely a nice way to act, you gotta remember that Bond:
... is a fictional character who disdains women and uses them purely for sexual gratification, and the actor playing him rarely fails in seduction because he's following a movie script.
 
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... is a fictional character who disdains women and uses them purely for sexual gratification, and the actor playing him rarely fails in seduction because he's following a movie script.
Yup, not unlike a Disney fairy tale and women expecting a man to behave like Prince Charming.

None of it is real life.

Let's give credit where credit is due - to the writers of such fiction. Not to the characters themselves (i.e Bond).
 

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... is a fictional character who disdains women and uses them purely for sexual gratification, and the actor playing him rarely fails in seduction because he's following a movie script.
Movie script or not the characters aren't robots they have to emit genuine human emotions and reactions otherwise it would be like watching paint dry

The writers have gone to great lengths to write these scenes so that the screenplay translates into something organic the audience can enjoy

Yes it probably is a little over the top because its a movie but I feel like they really captured the essence of seduction in this movie

Most movies the male character just glances at a woman in a bar and then there's a split scene of them in bed together having sex

Casino Royal does a great job of capturing the build up and from a male perspective
 

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Yes, Bond is a fictional character but he is based on FACT. Ian Fleming had a first hand account of how undercover operatives worked as he worked with them for years during his time in British Intelligence:

From his bio: Fleming based his James Bond creation on individuals he met during his time in the Naval Intelligence Division, and admitted that Bond "was a compound of all the secret agents and commando types I met during the war".

Bonds interactions with women are extremely accurate as to what turns on a woman and how to seduce. If being nice, accommodating, supplicating, and agreeable were all effective seduction techniques, that's the way Bond would be portrayed, but he's the absolute opposite -- because it WORKS (like it of not).
 

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Yes, Bond is a fictional character but he is based on FACT. Ian Fleming had a first hand account of how undercover operatives worked as he worked with them for years during his time in British Intelligence:

From his bio: Fleming based his James Bond creation on individuals he met during his time in the Naval Intelligence Division, and admitted that Bond "was a compound of all the secret agents and commando types I met during the war".

Bonds interactions with women are extremely accurate as to what turns on a woman and how to seduce. If being nice, accommodating, supplicating, and agreeable were all effective seduction techniques, that's the way Bond would be portrayed, but he's the absolute opposite -- because it WORKS (like it of not).
Not to mention, this is only supported by the fact many women love the character. Meanwhile, I don't see women dropping their panties for Pee Wee Herman, the epitome of the Nice Guy.
 

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Bond has always been known as a smooth operator with the ladies over the years , for me the character balances the art of seduction perfectly

I was re watching Casino Royale last night and I picked up on a lot of writing & screenplay I hadn't necessarily noticed before

In nearly every interaction with females in the movie bond treats them like they are children he largely refuses to take any of them seriously but he does it in a way that is so calm and charming by the time the woman realises what's happened she's already seduced and ready to sleep with him

When asked a question by a woman bond answers vaguely creating mystery

there's a particularly interesting scene at the start when bond wins Dimitrios Aston Martin in poker and then proceeds to seduce his wife (Solange) up

Bond asks if he can give her a life home

Solange: " that would really pi$$ my husband off, I'm not sure I am that cruel"

Bond: " maybe you are just out of practice " ........ here bond plants a seed in her mind and also indicates he's not going to judge her for betraying her husband but rather he is encouraging it (classic bad boy behaviour )

Solange - laughs

Bond: " perhaps a drink at my place then "

Solange : your place. ? , is it close ?

Bond : "very"

Then we enter around 15 seconds of the pair making intense eye contact , Solange gets excited and submits to bonds will ......

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This encounter was fascinating for me because bond takes this woman through a range of emotions , whilst also having fun AND remaining mysterious

when she asks where he is staying so many men would have gone into great detail trying to sell both themselves and the idea to the woman

Bond simply answers with one vague word ........and the female is hooked

later on in the movie bonds encounters Vesper and this is a much more difficult and complex seduction


A lot of lessons on how to handle women in this movie and the writers have gone to great lengths too highlight bonds womanising , I highly recommend studying it
It's a movie. Life doesn't work out like James Bond.
 
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