It's weird how nobody in society is doing cold approaches...

[Enryu]

Haha before i knew this forum i was always asking myself how are people meeting their partners?
i got up with this list:

1. School
2. Discos
3. Partys
4. Work
5. Friends
6. Internet

You cant really add anything to that right? Well wrong. If people would just stop using the same lines over and over again and just try out a cold approach well... life would be worse for us so be careful of wishful thinking...

 

[synergy1]

I didn't read page two since I thought there was too much negativity from MM in general.

Like MM, most of my success has been through networking through friends. I seem to get a lot of lays through chicks that my friends know, or their friends know. So what, its easy. I am usually the focal point at some point of a social gathering, so this part of "the game" isn't even a game. It has taken work to get situated at this place in life, but its hardly effort now..it simply is.

Than there is the other part of my game I'd love to improve; the day sarging as it is called. Its awkward talking to people you don't know if you don't do it often, be it a guy or a girl. Roaming around the city, I couldn't help but notice the untapped resources that exist for guys. The OP had it right, there are so many women roaming around, sitting at coffee shops, outside or wherever...and not one single guy talks to them. These women are looking around frequently enough too, so they are not completely closed to the idea of a sane approach.

In my mind, the game is anything that helps you get you what you want. In this case its girls. Social networking is a huge factor in keeping yourself financially and socially dexterous. But the other part of the puzzle is being able to have the courage to talk to that bombshell. The article from Paul Jenka articulated this well, i recommend folks read it.

 

[TheRealSupreme]

I sometimes dedicate an entire day to sarging, but for the most part I just integrate this into my normal lifestyle. So if I'm going to a shop, or on a train or a bus or to a mall or to an eating place, and there is a girl I like the look of, I'll approach - simple as that. The idea is to seize all those wonderful opportunities that are around you every day of your life, whenever you leave your house. It's a lifestyle, part of who you naturally are, not something you just 'do'.

I want to ask you a question. If you dedicate entire days to sarging...then you must have a ton of women that you either have boned or are currently seeing.

How do you find the time to juggle all the pvssy you must be getting?

Also what is your success ratio. Every thing that relies on numbers has one. Telemarketers and sales people have em. So do pua's. Mysteries is 12%.

What is yours?

You know what would be cool is if Brad Pitt were single and got into the game. He would score way higher than anyone else on the planet. Because he is Brad Pitt. He can walk up to women and interupt them and get away with it. Even though not every woman out there finds him attractive, I am sure most would stop and talk to him.

Now that I would like to watch his infield work.

Nice site you have also. That is a cool idea. Host it on geocities for free then....uhh nevermind. Email me.

 

[ChrizZ]

Also what is your success ratio. Every thing that relies on numbers has one. Telemarketers and sales people have em. So do pua's. Mysteries is 12%.

link?

You know what would be cool is if Brad Pitt were single and got into the game. He would score way higher than anyone else on the planet. Because he is Brad Pitt. He can walk up to women and interupt them and get away with it. Even though not every woman out there finds him attractive, I am sure most would stop and talk to him.

Yes... that would be cool, but what's your point?

That Brad Pitt is stealing all of our women?

 

[ready123]

I don't have a social circle and it's a problem because I can't demonstrate much social value.

why not think of value as something YOU bring to the table? you don't need social proof to have "social value"

 

[goodfella86]

I back GuitarWhizz on this,

This site is supposed to be about approaching no matter when or where. Cold approaching is 95% of my game. I don't do the night/club scene too much because I honestly look young for my age. The forumla is real simple:

cold approach + set of bawls = success

Women want Men, no matter what time of day. So be a man and you'll have no problems.

BTW. I have never had an uncomfortable day game rejection becuase 9 out of 10 times the girls were flattered and suprised that i actually go after what i want as apposed to playing that indirect s**t.

 

[FoolsCause]

Bullsh*t, you don't need 'social proof' to be successful at daytime cold approaches. I've been incredibly successful as a 'lone wolf', and never needed 'social proof' to pickup girls.

My brother used to occasionally cold approach girls at the local college and go directly back to their place and lay them without dating or hanging out with a group for social proof. And he was in high school.

 

[Guitar_Whizz]

I want to ask you a question. If you dedicate entire days to sarging...then you must have a ton of women that you either have boned or are currently seeing.

How do you find the time to juggle all the pvssy you must be getting?

Also what is your success ratio. Every thing that relies on numbers has one. Telemarketers and sales people have em. So do pua's. Mysteries is 12%.

What is yours?

I have many, many past women I've boned. I'm not looking for a long term relationship at the moment, just looking for sex and open relationships with as many girls as possible. My musical career comes first, and an LTR would interfere with that, so I like to keep myself free to do what I want, when I want, therefore casual sex and multiple open relationships have suited me fine. Maybe in the future I will have an LTR, but right now I don't want one.

How do I find the time to juggle all the girls? Like I said, MY LIFE comes first, I just fit in seeing the girls around that.

I don't know what my 'success ratio' is, I'm not geeky enough to sit down and analyse this like a mathematical formula. I approach dozens of girls every week, most of which I get a positive response from, and some of which lead to instant dates, phone numbers, kisses, lays, day 2s (dates), etc.

I rarely post field reports to be honest, as if I did I would be posting so often that I'd have no time for other things!

Hope that helps and gives people an inspirational boost.

 

[DJCT]

My brother used to occasionally cold approach girls at the local college and go directly back to their place and lay them without dating or hanging out with a group for social proof. And he was in high school.

Your attitude and self-respect should convey your value. There is no need to artificially create it or explicitly prove it. That is AFC thinking.

I want to ask you a question. If you dedicate entire days to sarging...then you must have a ton of women that you either have boned or are currently seeing.

How do you find the time to juggle all the pvssy you must be getting?

Also what is your success ratio. Every thing that relies on numbers has one. Telemarketers and sales people have em. So do pua's. Mysteries is 12%.

What is yours?

I am still an AFC myself in many ways but I have to write to this. Beware, I'm getting on a soapbox. But this type of thinking is scary.

Indulge me in this quick story I want to tell.

I have (well, had) a friend that was all about pickup. I met him in my journey to learn more. I never really became part of the community because there is something that makes me sad about it. He on the other hand goes to lair meetings regularly, gets together with friends (other puas) and they have a schedule for sarging. Everything in his life is centered around pickup. To the point where I stopped talking to him because we could never have a normal conversation. He knew all these techniques and theories. He broke things down into formulas and strategies. But his life was just a shell, animated only by the game of pickup. And the kicker--he could never get laid. He would always run out of conversation quickly and his interactions would crumble. Why? Because there was nothing else in the shell besides pickup. No life. This was a really nice guy too. But he was just too far gone so I stopped hanging out with him.

I would be horrified to see somebody that actually dedicated entire days to sarging. To borrow what Guitar_Whizz said, your life comes first. The girls come second.

The forumla is real simple:

cold approach + set of bawls = success

Women want Men, no matter what time of day. So be a man and you'll have no problems.

BTW. I have never had an uncomfortable day game rejection becuase 9 out of 10 times the girls were flattered and suprised that i actually go after what i want as apposed to playing that indirect s**t.

Agree 100%!

 

[MacAvoy]

Ok first off I agree 100% with what Guitar is saying. However I'll concede to guys on the other side of the argument that it is a numbers game (to a degree). Its a numbers game to 98% of guys. The other 2% are alphas and have game, confidence & everything else oozing out of their body, that it just works for them.

From a different thread today

See I've always found the "no man is going to tell me what to do" line as meaning =

My jerk days are over (unfortunately), and now more than likely I'm stuck with the losers who force me to play more of a "dominant" role. But sh!t at the end of the day I'm still a chick so talk is cheap and if I even get the smallest sniff your a man of value...hell I'll let you beat me within an inch of my life if that's what it takes and still come back for more.

You bring up an excellent point. One that more guys need to remember, they can waste their energy complaining about what an AW, flake, high maintenance princess or a gold digging hor but the bottom line is, if your Don Juan enough any of those lovely ladies will be in line to suck your kawk.

There is a saying "A woman would rather share a successful man than be saddled to a faithful loser". This goes to what being a true Don Juan is about.

However with all that being said. There is more than one way to be a DJ and get laid. I've never done a cold approach. How do I get so much action? Through my social circle, by DHV, by being a fun person to be around, by being charismatic, confident & a cool cucumber.

My last lay, I never approached her, I didn't even pay much attention to her. However I did all the right things when she was around. I allow people to see that I live a fun & fascinating life and they are attracted to that. When the time was right, I made my move and went in for the kill.

Moral of the story, there is more than one way to skin a cat.

 

[schttrj]

I agree with MacAvoy on this. I also never approached girls cold, but surprisingly they always called me a 'ladykiller' in high school and now a 'playboy' in my office and I still find girls just come to me or make me notice them. So when I joined this site, well I can say I was moderately successful and I played the game well but that I have a prob. I don't get enough chance of meeting woman. I do a job, I play guitar and all the regular chores doesn't give me enough time to meet women every day. So, what I can do is cold approaching girls on my way to somewhere on everyday basis. That what I think would further my success rate.

Now, to all the successful people of CA, I want to ask you something. I need help here because I am clearing up something in my game. That's it. I am not debating on anything, you give me a valid reason and I go with you.

Ok, TELL ME GUYS, when you first cold approach a girl, suppose in street (she is walking), any store (she is buying or selling something), WHAT REASON WOULD YOU GIVE TO THE APPROACHED PERSON THAT WHY YOU APPROACH THEM? Either you show that you are interested in her but not specifically need her that way ---- direct game that is, or what indirect game you would go for ----- indirect game that is. I have seen that very hot babes are somewhat stuck up and once you approach them, they are not flattered (because they know they are good and that is just an ego boost to them) and you are just another guy who showed interest in her but she is not feeling the gut level challenge. You get me, guys? You tell me,'yes Ronny, this is a number's game and you just take your chance'. Then I would probably say,'fine'. Direct game or indirect game?

 

[DJCT]

Ok, TELL ME GUYS, when you first cold approach a girl, suppose in street (she is walking), any store (she is buying or selling something), WHAT REASON WOULD YOU GIVE TO THE APPROACHED PERSON THAT WHY YOU APPROACH THEM? Either you show that you are interested in her but not specifically need her that way ---- direct game that is, or what indirect game you would go for ----- indirect game that is. I have seen that very hot babes are somewhat stuck up and once you approach them, they are not flattered (because they know they are good and that is just an ego boost to them) and you are just another guy who showed interest in her but she is not feeling the gut level challenge. You get me, guys? You tell me,'yes Ronny, this is a number's game and you just take your chance'. Then I would probably say,'fine'. Direct game or indirect game?

Friend that helped me learn a good way of approaching for me would always say "don' think just go!" so whenever I see somebody I want to talk to, his voice pops into my head with that line. So I don't come up with anything spectacular because I really don't have time. I don't let myself think about it beforehand. Usually I just say "hey I wanted to meet you" or "hey I wanted to talk to you". Not so smooth but who cares? If they say "why?" I just tell them they looked interesting and leave it at that. I've never had a girl press beyond that. If she did I guess I'm not sure what I'd say. It woudl depend on the mood.

I absolutely put no effort into being polished though as I feel it is just doesn't fit my style. To be honest, what I've found is that simply starting a conversation and not being a complete tool about it is 80% of the battle.

 

[schttrj]

man, I am so cursed at approaching... why can't I be in the state of mind all the time? It's only when I am in the most upbeat of my mind that I feel like approaching. I don't feel that motivation or push, damn it. How do you actually get the hunger of meeting girls all the time or be in that state?

 

[DJCT]

man, I am so cursed at approaching... why can't I be in the state of mind all the time? It's only when I am in the most upbeat of my mind that I feel like approaching. I don't feel that motivation or push, damn it. How do you actually get the hunger of meeting girls all the time or be in that state?

Don't be so hard on yourself. Approaching can be tough in the beginning. They key to the right state of mind is to drop expectations. Drop expectations for yourself and for her. And don't put pressure on yourself to be cool or win her over. You shouldn't need to be "up" to approach.

If you find it is really tough to approach, go out with a buddy, look for groups of girls and have him introduce you to one of them. Or you introduce him to one of them. This kind of takes the pressure off both of you because you are in it together. Then once that gets a little more comfortable, simply start introducing yourself to girls and you're on your way. (Thank You D)

 

[milton]

I always had the idea that the very essence of sarging or pickup or whatever the he'll you want to call it, was mastering your ability to pick up a girl wherever you are. I don't have THAT much experience with day game but if you are able to do that. And people on this thread seem to not believe that when there are day game experts out there ( seldomseen on TMM )

Ok day game is hard but I feel if you master that how easy will social circle game or drunk chicks at a bar be. Just a little?

I'm typing on a phone so excuse my retardedness inmy grammar

 

[schttrj]

Don't be so hard on yourself. Approaching can be tough in the beginning. They key to the right state of mind is to drop expectations. Drop expectations for yourself and for her. And don't put pressure on yourself to be cool or win her over. You shouldn't need to be "up" to approach.

If you find it is really tough to approach, go out with a buddy, look for groups of girls and have him introduce you to one of them. Or you introduce him to one of them. This kind of takes the pressure off both of you because you are in it together. Then once that gets a little more comfortable, simply start introducing yourself to girls and you're on your way. (Thank You D)

thanks man, will give it a try and let you know.

 

[[S]alvatore]

I think people just don't give a sh!t anymore about meeting other people, or give a sh!t about people in general.

 

[#41]

I think people just don't give a sh!t anymore about meeting other people, or give a sh!t about people in general.

I find it's just that adults are too busy.

I suspect that the majority of the people who have success with cold approaches are targeting people with fewer time encumbrances -- college students, etc.

If you're working for a living (i.e. 9-5 office job) you're on the clock most days and, on others, you're trying to cram in all the stuff you've put off until your off day. It doesn't make one especially receptive to potentially time-wasting small talk.

 

[schttrj]

i think street approaches are pretty hard. other than that, if u do day game, its quite easy if you have a reason to talk with teh girl. anyone specialist here in street approaches? let us know how u do it. best advice i got is that it has got to be normal so that u and the girl both feels pretty comfortable with that. if u r bold, the girl will probably shy away. so having a normal reason to talk to her is waht cuts it.

 

[AlekNovy]

They're full of rationalizations, they actually BELIEVE they CAN do cold approaches.

I'm serious. I've done a lot of talking to people, and they're all convinced they can, but it just... somehow... never ends up being done lol. Never seen anyone outside the community cold approach.

Anyway, super funny thing I found just the other day about this. This will make ya laugh. This is from one of the quizzes I run on this subject, and it's a quiz taken by hundreds of guys. Mainstream guys from all kinds of sources and nationalities and all that

Now notice the following. Notice what I circled there. Their answers for question 1, and question 2.

I think it's EFFIN hilarious!

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http://journey.perfectseducer.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/yeah-right-as-if.jpg