It's so easy, why are we even here?

[Ronin I]

Gentlemen.

Why are we even here?

Why?

I'll answer my own question. Because to one degree or another we're all insecure. Every move we make we question. Should I have done this? Should I have done that? Would she like me more if I had done this? Blah. balh. blah, blah, blah.

Bottom line - we are all pu$$ies.

None of us is strong enough to stand up as men and take responsibility for our decisions.

I went out tonight and I had an epiphany (hold your applause, please).

I commanded my own environment. Why? Because I wanted to. Because no matter what happened I decided I was going to have a good time.

I approached a girl, she was receptive.

I appraoched another girl, she wasn't.

So?

So fvckin' what.

Does it mean anything? NO!

All too often (or always) we measure ourselves by what other people think. This is so silly - and I think you know why. What do THEY know about you?

What do THEY know about life? These people that we let judge us. That we let influence how we live our lives. They know nothing.

I have a fairly good understanding of this world. It is all BULL****. This is a world full of phonies. A world full of posers. A world full of people too scared to act upon their impulses.

So ask yourself this. Do you want to be one of those people too scared to live? OR do you want to be one of those people too scared NOT to live? I know where I stand.

Let's push the envelope. From this day forward I am determined to turn someone's head. From this day forward I am determined to challenge the norm. Why?

Because the norm is BULL****!. Because this world is full of people afraid to live life.

I'm not afraid anymore.

Fvck what people think.

 

[drixsa]

when you are off the drugs tommrow you wont remember writing this at all...

atleast, hopefully i will not

im on this site to improve myself and to try to help others that were and are like me

i am no *****, speak for yourself

 

[Ronin I]

Originally posted by drixsa
when you are off the drugs tommrow you wont remember writing this at all...

atleast, hopefully i will not

im on this site to improve myself and to try to help others that were and are like me

i am no *****, speak for yourself

Kid, you're 18 and don't know your head from your ass. Trust me on that.

I'm an Ivy League graduate and thought I was hot **** back in the day.

10 years of adulthood does a lot for your view things.

You should listen more than you talk.

 

[( . )( . )]

this is a very good post, thinking like this is the way to go.

forget that other dood mate, hes just embarresed himself, like you say

What do THEY know about life? These people that we let judge us. That we let influence how we live our lives. They know nothing.

 

[drixsa]

Originally posted by Ronin I
Kid, you're 18 and don't know your head from your ass. Trust me on that.

I'm an Ivy League graduate and thought I was hot **** back in the day.

10 years of adulthood does a lot for your view things.

You should listen more than you talk.

so what is your post saying?

you should get off this board and be real but i am going to stay on and post useless info

i could care less about you ivy league education

None of us is strong enough to stand up as men and take responsibility for our decisions.

i may be 18 but i am takin responsibilites, i am joining the army come fall. i got into some great schools but i feel i am doing something better

what the hell do you know about life??

yea you are 8 years older than me and have experienced some things that i have not...and what have you to show for it??

commenting on how people truly are??

i agree with you in this aspect but i am not seeing the point of sharing it.

Because the norm is BULL****!. Because this world is full of people afraid to live life.

i am not afraid to live or to die and im really putting it on the line not jut stating some BS

so in conclusion is picking up girls the meaning in your life??
Is this how your going to turn heads and push the envelope?

i'd sure hope not

 

[isotope]

why are we seething with this animosity?

dudes, chill... Ronins post was positive and a way of saying, "live your life, be confident, sieze the day." becasue some people ARE pvssies, and i think it could be agreed that most people come to this board because of their biggest problem: confidence. they are afraid to talk to girls, to be themselves. afraid of rejection.

drix, i dont see what the problem is with ronins post? why rain on his parade. who cares which one of you has had more responsibilities at his age. And i dont think ronon was saying that you should only chase pvssy. he is saying, dont let society make you scared anymore. dont let peer pressure or other crap stress you out: reble, live whatever.

and alot of people here, myself too, need to hear that from time to time. drix, youre not a pvssy? well, congratulations, i hope to one day be like you. bold and confident, no need to grow or become more strong as a person. but then why did u seek out this board.

 

[DJ Logic]

Why are we even here?

You raise an excellent question Ronin. A lot of us are just afraid of people and what they think of us. I didn't even know I was afraid until I read the likes of MOTU and Mr. Fingers. How humbling to know that regular people have frightened me all these years! But I tell you one thing, being here I have not only learned from the wisdom of the posts (which are excellent!) but how we all INTERACT with each other. Don't you see? There are hidden lessons in the "conversations" we have here. We learn how to deal with opposing view points, how to make funny comebacks, etc. There are many times when this site makes me LOL and it just brightens up my day and I have more ammunition for good conversation. Everyone here brings so much to the table, either with their humor, wisdom, even the ignorance here can teach us if we let it. I have changed so much being here and I am sure you have as well. But as far as why I am here? I enjoy it! I love all of you wise-ass DJs, the way you flame each other and make hilariously inappropriate remarks, the way we all pull together and support each other like a virtual family. You went through a traumatizing experience recently and got an overwhelming response. Is this considered weak? I think its only human to crave this support/comradery. Overall I agree with the essence of your post, but wanted to toss in my 2 cents on why I am here. I hope this makes sense...

 

[Jay26]

This site has opened my eyes a lot, the info is great, you just need balls to put it all into practice, it's kinda like the leap of faith in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade

 

[Don Rageta]

ivy league pffffftttttt

talk about not caring what people think.
this is one of those holier than thou posts.
revelations we all must hear.

ronin,
i guess you didn't take sociology in your ivy league shool.
society needs people that judge others and everyone cares and conforms on some level. A true anticonformist is found in the dumpsters scrounging for food. if no one cared what others thought we would have anarchy. acceptance and the need for it keep all societys in check, the americans, the nazis, the communists even the caveman society has it.

Social Stratification.

if you aren't happy with it and you didn't care what others thought you would have left and wouldn't have wasted everyones time whith this post. you care as much as the guys who lie about the amont of girls they get. but thanks for the laugh. too bad i can't get these 5 minutes of my life back though.

next time you post, and you will because like everyone you care, try something a bit more constructive

 

[Createthemindset]

We are here because we want to be for different reasons - for me its mainly wanting to improve myself

I think its great that this forum exists - thanks a lot guys

 

[MrNiceGuy]

Agree totally, with the first post..

in most aspects of my life I'm fairly confident and can deal with failure, rejection and so on

e.g. I've been looking for some bar work this summer, have spent days wandering around asking in every bar in town, alot have said, no we've got nothing, others have taken my details and then not called... but it hasn't bothered me at all and I'm still trying.

but when it comes to girls, I'm the most pathetic insecure guy there is, if I get a rejection on my first pu attempt of an evening its enough to put me off trying for the rest of the night at least.. and with girls I meet I'm constantly analysing their behaviour trying to work out how they feel about me and so on.. I'm sure once I actually get some experience get a few dates under my belt I'll be fine but I just need some initial success to get me going.. finding a girlfriend really shouldn't be any harder than walking from bar to bar asking for a job but at the moment it seems like it is.

its true, screw what people think, just give it a go.. as it is I keep thinking.. ooh those people over there are going to look at me and maybe laugh if they see me crash and burn, when in all likelyhood they'd probably give me props for at least having the balls to have a go, so yeah, screw everyone else just go for it, that has to be the right attitude to have.

 

[DankNuggs]

I thought the post was excellent, its only when you realize that this site is useless when you're really free.

We build up all these walls around what we feel is socially acceptible. The more stock we take in these walls, the more we construct them to accomadate the entire society.

Those who are most afraid get confused because they figure that appeasement and respect should be intertwined. Unfortunately the world works around a concept of scarcity, we want what we can't have. Be it a car, chick, job, money, spiritual enlightenment...

We also take for granted what we do have, material possessions, lapdog friends, chicks we don't love.

Why do we want what's scarce. If you think about it, any other animal would be fine with ample food, shelter, and health. Why do humans crave more? Because of the enormous potential and ability we have. Why don't we use it...Because of all the walls we build up, protecting us from the spotlight of others, and at the same time incubating us from growing.

**exhales b0ng rip**

rant is over...

 

[Tyler]

Originally posted by isotope
why are we seething with this animosity?

Lyrical reference noted.

 

[dontmindme]

k

 

[Oscar Wilde]

Strong self-confidence warning, don't bother to flame it, I don't care

I'm here because I'm one of those friendly confident extroverted guys who gets on with most people. I was getting annoyed with a) my lack of success with women, and b) with people saying things along the lines of "you must have them fighting over you" - I wasn't!

Back when I was 13 I was a serious introvert (I'm a type 5 on the enneagram btw) - I bought a book called "How to make smalltalk" cos I literally didn't know how to talk to people about inconsequentialities. I learned, and became much more outgoing.

Now I'm back in that place where I realise that I need to learn - I'm an engineer and I can appreciate how to apply this stuff, and I have been doing so for the last 4 months. The catalyst btw, was breaking up with my gf of 1 year.

The information on this site is golden! I have been extremely successful in the last 3 months thanks to it. Just 30 minutes ago I was chatting to a lovely 8 and showed her to the building she was going to for interview. Tonight I'm meeting with an ex-ONS hopefully to be FB. Last Friday I had another ONS with a hot 29 year old. A 9 is coming to stay with me for a couple of days in August, I'm really looking forward to that! This is pretty good going for this country (Ireland).

And this time last year I was getting action, by *pure chance only*, and about once or twice a year at most.

This is a fantastic resource. I will eventually get around to posting a couple of solid posts, both on philosophy and field reports.

Thanks to all contributers.
Oscar.

 

[FlyGuy]

Why are we here? We weren't naturally as successful with women as we wanted to be. That's all!

We each have our own reasons for it, but I think that in general you are right Ronin. Call it being a pvssy or whatever, but for MANY reasons my self esteem was trashed over the last 4 years. Because of that I avoided social situations, talking to girls, all sorts of stuff. So you're right, I was afraid to go out and live, to be myself and grow. These forums are a place to start, a place to build confidence through learning skills and talking with others.

 

[ShortTimer]

Why am I here?

This humble trolling of a message board represents the last of my motivation to deal with women. My motivation has been bleeding out of me and in some way I'm trying to hold on to it. Maybe tho, it would be just best to let go...

 

[InLawsHateMe]

That's not my beautiful wife?!?!


..and the days go by.

 

[Mr. Mystery]

Drixsa,

You are a poster boy of insecurity, the very thing Ronin I is referring to in his post. Read it one more time and try not to take it as an attack on you, because it wasn't.

Who are you trying to prove yourself to, us or yourself?

Talk is cheap.

I'm not trying to flame you, call it tough love...

Mr. Mystery

 

[es_mer8]

Hmm...interesting. This is my last post on this board. However I'm not going to make a thread about it and have it sink to the bottom at record speed like all my other threads.

Because to one degree or another we're all insecure. Every move we make we question. Should I have done this? Should I have done that? Would she like me more if I had done this? Blah. balh. blah, blah, blah.

100% Agreed here. I agree with this because the DJB and other DJ gurus emphasize not getting hung up on one girl. Yet we are asking about one girl or that. Guess what? We are still having oneitises on the board. My advice for all those that are asking if you should have done X behavior is to just do it, learn from your mistakes yourself, and move on.

I went out tonight and I had an epiphany (hold your applause, please).

I had a similar epiphany last night when I couldn't fall asleep in bed. I realized that we are on the Earth for ~75 years. The first 30-40 years of our lives should kick ass. Why? We should just take control and do things whatever we want to do. Take charge in life. I often times regret (I hate using that word BTW) how I pissed away half of my life acting like my life sucks when it shouldn't be. Life is what we make of it.

Because the norm is BULL****!. Because this world is full of people afraid to live life.

True. Too many people nowadays are stuck in the vice grip like conformity where they feel they have to act a certain way or be a certain person. No wonder why there are so many bitter old people. They've probably realized they've pissed their whole lives away and wished they could do it all over again.

I'm not afraid anymore.

Same here. Same with everything. From now on, I hold nothing back. This morning when I was lifting weights, there were three semi attractive girls and talked to them for a while. Not hitting on them. I know a group of girls is supposedly taboo or talking to girls without getting numbers are taboo but **** it, who cares. I also talked to the owner about various **** and I realized, this is how life should be.

That said, this site has taught me a few things:

1) Most people try to project confidence but are really insecure with themselves. They like to think they are the **** but are piss scared of certain situations.

2) ****y + Funny, Neghits, and all that are complete and utter BULLSH!T. They are wastes of time. I learned this from my DJ friend who when I told him about that **** he laughed his ass off and thought it was one of the stupidest things he's ever heard of. After a while, I thought hard about it and agreed.

3) Be yourself. Don't rely on conversations that are more processed than Linkin Park or B2K when it comes with talking to the ladies. Just be what you want to be so that way when they find out you're not the badass you make yourself out to be, they will drop your ass. Which is why I hear a lot about people that can't get any more dates than just a couple.

See you later. I may read this board from time to time but its the last time I'm posting here.