It's not impossible for flowers to bloom and grow next to graves.

[AFK Protector]

Yea man, the MAtrix is real. We're all friggin connected!! So uh...yea, I dunno what the hell's going on.

But yes, I totally agree with Lik and Matrix on morality and being virtuous. Matrix...your titles scare the living jesus outta me, but they do open my eyes. I see where your coming from.

 

[Ballistik]

There is no spoon.

 

[Alexis Zorba]

jester its so great to see someone who can just cut through the bs.

I am amazed at the amount ofpeople in these forums that do not appreciate deep philosofical discussions. Maybe it's just the way I am but I prefer this kind of posting rather than "straight to the point" things. This post made me think. It made me stray away from routine, from lazyness within my thinking processes.

Show me the person who is truly happy living on the streets i dont believe it for a second, it totally goes against human nature.

The important thing here is not that he will be living on the streets. The key thing is that he will be trying to fulfill his dream. What he is saying is not that he wishes to live on the street. He is saying that he loves music and IF NECESSARY he will live on the streets while trying to pursue his dream, while trying to succeed in the music business( at least that's what I understood so forgive me if I'm wrong).

Lord Byron? Of course Lord Byron was a sad. He strived to be unhappy. He constantly invented misseries so he could be a "true romantic". He was your typical AFC. Other romantic writers were just as unhappy as he was. Take Bécquer for example. His wife left him,became a lesbian (just like Ross) and he died poor and unhappy.
That doesn't mean that philosophical thoughts will lead you to unhappy lives. Sure Nietzche and Kierkegaard sure were unhappy. But what about other philosophers? Aristotle proposed a formula to reach eudaimonia (kind of,like, happiness). Aristotle believed that to be happy you should constantly make use of reason. However this was not enough,you also had to be healthy, rich (upps I guess street guitar players are not happy according to Aristotle) and not be a slave or a woman (yes Aristotle was sexist). According to this principles Aristotle was a happy man.
What about Ayn Rand, the creator of objectivism? As far as I know she was extremely happy.

Damn! I started this as a response to the negativism in which philosophical discussions are percieved in this board and ranted my way towards philosophic history. I am sorry guys. Let me leave you with this:

"It is to give a great value to one's suppositions to criticize others for what others say about them". Montaigne.

Alexis Zorba

 

[Ballistik]

Aristotle also came up with the idea that everything in the universe was made up of a combination of four basic things: Earth, wind, fire, and water. Throw in heart and you've got Captain Planet.

Romantic philosophers were generally unhappy because they were romantic philosophers. Is someone who writes love poems all day going to be particularly masculine? Probably not. On the other hand, that knight over there that doesn't know how to read but just knocked another knight off his horse and beat the crap out of a couple of peasants in his way....

Not to say that philosophy has no place. It does. Just don't expect to cure any loneliness you may have through writing how lonely you are better than most people can.

Three guesses on whether or not I'm feeling a little bitter tonight.

 

[Nocturnal]

Originally posted by Alexis Zorba
I am amazed at the amount ofpeople in these forums that do not appreciate deep philosofical discussions. Maybe it's just the way I am but I prefer this kind of posting rather than "straight to the point" things. This post made me think. It made me stray away from routine, from lazyness within my thinking processes.

Let me explain to you the most important philosophy in life. Everything is relative. To say something is good, you have to have something that is bad. It all depends on the person and the way the percieve and interpret things. Unless you are religious, to pretend that there is a hidden element to the entire existence of all things without evidence is foolish and wasting time. Perhaps there are things that must be broken down into miniscule sections to be observed in depth with resulting half-truths and 'philosophies'. But to deny the cut and dry, factual reality of things IS delusion. Do not read into things too deeply when the answer is right in front of your face.

 

[JSH]

Originally posted by Smooth as Anything
People are going to stab you in the back, son – and there is nothing you can do about it. You can’t protect your back or you’ll isolate yourself from beauty. You have to let it stab you son, you just have to let that knife pierce through your lung. When the time comes for you to take that knife and do the same, you’re going to.

Don’t deny it.

People are sick. People can take a dagger to your throat while you’re crying for your mother, your head being assaulted into the floor by a boot.

“Mom, MOMMY!” you scream, squirming in the fetal position.
The knife pierces through your neck. You disconnect. The cries for your mother turn to gurgles of blood. You have died.

We all have the capacity to commit such an act. Denying it will only force it to come out another door. Don’t lock your doors son… If anyone wants to break in, your door being locked isn’t going to keep them out.

Now what do you want to do with your time?

It isn’t hard to hate people. It isn’t too hard to hate yourself.

I love music. I love playing music. I am going to spend my life playing music. I’ll see you on the street sometime, dressed in a black suit, walking to your job.

“Why are you wasting your time man? Go do something with your life.” You’ll ask.

“Why are you wasting your time, man? Go do something with your life” I will retort.

I totally understand where you are coming from, but maybe i won't be wasting my life if i work in the city, doing what i love and making money.

The point is that acts such as murder you can be conditioned into, but if you hold to what you believe, then you will never do anything against your will and therefore anything that you consider bad/evil.

and not be a slave or a woman (yes Aristotle was sexist).

no alexis, he obviously was quite sensible, he could not see how a woman or a slave could be happy with their role in acnient greece.

 

[Alexis Zorba]

Everything is relative.

Even that is relative

But to deny the cut and dry, factual reality of things IS delusion.

I see your point. You are a practical guy unlike me. I like to theorize about things, even the most obvious. But yeah it is simpler to take the things as you percieve them in first instance and act acordingly. That is the point of Djing hence my difficulty when I started Djing. I am much better now

no alexis, he obviously was quite sensible, he could not see how a woman or a slave could be happy with their role in acnient greece.

Upps my bad. How the hell did I miss that...
Damn I feel stupid

Alexis Zorba

 

[Supero Masculus]

As much as i don't enjoy philosiphy (I can't even spell it right) i am going to lay down my own.

"There are many different kinds of people in this world."
*Everyone nods their head and agree*

"There are people who enjoy philosiphy."
*Everyone nods their head and agree again*

"There are people who enjoy simple things and take them as they are."
*more nodding*

"They constantly argue over their differences."
*necks start to hurt*

"There are these two seperate catagories and all people fit vaguely into them but somtimes break there train of thought to switch sides of opinion."
*Many nod and agree while others scratch their head completely confused*

The point here is that people are gonna like certain things. Some will like it some won't. People are different. Thats what it boils down to. I know this wasn't mind blowing or new, probably becuase i am not a phylosopher, but thats the point, some will get it and some will not. Get over it.