It's been 2 years, and I am scared.

moneyisking

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I have been actively searching a breakthrough in my woman-problem for 2 straight years. i have developed, but for now, I am stuck at plateau stage where I don't see any more improvement.

Getting a girl should be so easy, yet, why does it seem so complicated and so hard? The most thing I have done with a chick is make out, and I am embarrassed. I have a natural player brother who told me this once. "If you don't get it, you never will. If you are not natural, you can't be successful with girls". well I heavily disagree and I have seen many DJs here and around me who have transformed from clueless nice afc to super players.

But as for now, he is correct. I am not getting any chicks, and I am okay with that. What scares me and saddens me is the fact that no matter how much I strive to get this thing solved, it might not work. I know believing is first path to solution, but it's been too long for that invisible hope. I don't even know what to do anymore.

I am ok looking guy who works out a lot. I am in college and I have future, yet... I feel bitter right now. I talk with girls a lot b/c I don't really hesitate anymore to approach thanks to years of self-discipline and learning, but I don't know how to bring her to bed, feel, talk sexually. In fact, I don't even know myself anymore. I want to give up this woman problem really bad, but I can't. It's a deal that every men must solve, and I am going to work til death gives me the answer.

One thing I realized is that techniques and seduction lines and all that does not work. They make me into something fake and I prefer being me and not thinking bunch of bs in my head when talking to girls. You know what... I don't know, I need joy in life and fun with girls, but something is wrong. This feeling really sucks... Someone said "If you're being yourself and not getting any girls, then something is wrong with you."... Is something fundamentally wrong with me for not getting any? I feel so pathetic and helpless. I always meditate and tell myself that I am the Great Catch, but Jesus... suicide comes in my mind. Only if I could detach myself from this trouble... I want to smoke some bud right now...
 

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the thing is you can do all that "stuff" with woman, but you have to actually believe that its going to work. confidence is the key. you have to believe in yourself and not change what you do all of a sudden just because it didnt work on one girl. keep going at it. look at it like this, every girl you dont get, is just another girl you dont have to worry about anymore. another thing is dont care. there is nothing a woman can do but tell you no. once you start talking to woman and trying to meet your goals, you will see how easy it is. I once was scared of woman and approaching them (which I really dont do a lot of approaching) now I will go up to anyone woman or say anything to a woman because you find out nothing happens. you got to make the initial step.
 

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that guy who told you that is a Moron. Mystery will be the first to tell you he once was HORRIBLE with Women. Style will be the second.
 

thedude4242

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I wonder how many of you GURUs are actually getting good quality woman. you are going to listen to mystery because he pumps his bull**** into you guys getting no woman. woman have seen mystery and most top shelf ***** would laugh at mystery. you can say you seen him do it. blah blah blah. I cant believe that you idiots listen to mystery. a real man dont need gimmicks and techniques, he gets woman becase he know how to socialize. unlike most you, I am with woman and I am never coming on this joke of a site again, because when your getting woman you have no time to be on this site. I have been on it for a week and cant believe the bull**** some of you say. keep listening to these bums and you will keep coming back to this site because you ****ed up. there is no guy on here that gets them, because they are all telling BS stories about woman and what they should do. a real stable minded woman who is worth something would never ever give mystery anytime because they would be creeped out by him. its like mystery is david koresh and you are the idiots fallowing him.
 

moneyisking

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gurus and pua ARE indeed bunch of crooks i agree. they sell bunch of formulas and subliminal messages hidden behind their intent: that is to get you more hooked on to them so you can buy their stuff. imagine that, Deangelo's dvd program (one of many he sells) is more than $600. I despise those cons. I believe nature that it will give me what i need. but now, I am tired of all these, and I just want to treat women like ****, b/c after all why should i value them over me... i got no clue...
 

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read the dj bible, go through all the must reads. it should change your view. Don't get yourself down, get yourself EDUCATED.

Read the dj bible.
 

Deadly_Ripped

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Years ago when I found this website, I took away from it a few very simple principles:

Exposure builds comfort
Comfort allows my personality to thrive
Knowing general rules of interaction is required before learning attraction
Knowing rules of attraction is not enough to generate attraction
These rules of attraction keep me from being mispercieved as of low worth, regardless of my sense of worth
Generating a sincere sense of high self worth takes years

Don't give up... just focus on a single issue at a time.


It took me years to be able to make and keep high quality friends. I attribute that success to the things I learned on this website. I didn't have a strong father figure example to show me how to be a man, but (with a strong bull**** filter) I was able to extract a great deal of information out of these posts and articles for incorporation into my life.

Things as simple as hygeine, good conversation, and the notion of worth were all foreign concepts to be before a friend in high school (more than 7 years ago) told me about this website, and it is one of the best things to happen to me.

I have friends, I don't have trouble getting laid, and I'm genuinely happy about my life. It might be worth nothing that I take pleasure every day in knowing that I'm not paralyzed from the neck down.
 

Poonani Maker

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Moderation is the key. It's funny, you could be the best looking guy on the planet (like I am) and there'll be at least one straggler girl (dog) who will turn her nose up to me and look the other way. All women are ditzes. Look at the special forces. Where are the women?? Focus on yourself, making yourself stronger. Don't worry about impressing women, because you're learning so many skills, being social in moderation, and advertising yourself, then withdrawing, advertising yourself, then withdrawing. Be the walking value stick that others look and want to cling to. They smile at you for a reason.

Sure, many people are so superficial, but only the people who Know you and you know, can truly know your worth.
 

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moneyisking said:
I am ok looking guy who works out a lot. I am in college and I have future, yet... I feel bitter right now. I talk with girls a lot b/c I don't really hesitate anymore to approach thanks to years of self-discipline and learning, but I don't know how to bring her to bed, feel, talk sexually.
Do you ask them out? how many girls do you ask out per month? You come here and complain about the game but i bet you that you asked out less than 3 girls last month. Anyone that comes to this forum and complains and has not asked more than 3 girls out in a month is still a loser and delusional. Women are not going to be asking you out and jumping in your arms, unless you are rich and famous. If you haven't been with a woman for a long time it is not necessarily the way you are that is at fault, it is that you haven't been asking enough of them out.

The way it works is simple. You get sex by first asking lots and lots of girls out. The more girls you ask out the better your chances of having sex is. The way it works is simple now putting the plan into effect is what's hard.

Note that i'm being conservative in the number. For those of us that go sarging often and get numbers we will probably be asking out a lot more than 3 girls per month.
 

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Women are only an aspect of life and shouldn't be your life focus. You can't achieve happiness with women unless your happy by yourself first. As in your so happy with yourself you don't need women but would welcome them as an icing on the cake in your life. Look into the Blueprint by Real Social Dynamics.
 
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