Its amazing how woman lie to flake

[zorg198]

Hello

Well i talked with one of my brothers here and he asked me to post this so everyone could learn of this.

There was one of the girl i posted in my other thread that i talked with her on FB , we set up a date for today. well today came and i texted her what was her address? ( i should have called , i'm aware of that) she didn't respond. 3 hours later she wrote me , Hey Joseph , sorry i didn't call , i forgot.
I am in a funeral....

Well ,
I don't know if its true or not the bottom line is she flaked and had the lack of respect to notify me.

Did i got upset? hell no... wrote- sorry to hear that. its not easy , stay strong.

Next!!

10 min later talked to another girl on the phone and set up a meeting on Thursday...

The reason i'm writing this is because one month ago i was a total mess because my ex dumped me. during this month i came to be very strong and don't give a ****! who cares if she flaked , she's history. move on!!

Joe.

 

[pyros]

hahahahaha...

yeah sure, she had to go to a funeral but she forgot to mention it to you when you set up the date. Even if she did have to go, she could have texted you to cancel the date.

Crazy bit-ch. I would no have even replied. Now she thinks that you bought what she said.

 

[zorg198]

I don't care to tell the truth....

Iwont talk to her anymore so why i need to care..
by the way , we have a mutual friend. so it will be wise to to ask him? i'm sure he will tell her lol.

 

[logicallefty]

Flake: I'm at a funeral

DJ: I knew you were crazy but didn't think you would actually murder someone wow

 

[LMFAO]

I sometimes use the flaking excuse one woman gives me on another woman I'm not that keen to go on a date with. "Sorry. I just came back from the doctor I have tonsillitis, let's postpone the date ". Most of them, unlike guys can see right through it, I get replies like this: "Ok I thought it was off given I haven't heard from you the last week". A guy (nearly all betas) would have responded "Oh are you ok? What did the doctor say? Could we maybe do it Friday when you feel better, is that good for you?".

Yes don't talk to her anymore. Saying anything else will make you look butthurt. If she wants to see you she'll apologise to you the next day. She won't.

 

[zorg198]

Yeah i know she wont contact me anymore.
Whatever... who cares.

I didnt' ask her when we could date again, or can we reschedule. i was well aware she's falking.

I just wrote to her , Sorry to hear, i know its hard. stay strong.
She replied - thanks.
I wrote- you ok?
she replied- yes.

Done .

 

[stevo]

Why do you care if she's ok?

You are transitioning into a DJ but you seem to care even if you are consciously telling yourself that you do not.

Dont just write her off completely however keep living. If she continuously hit you up, then fcuk her.

You got too chatty with a girl that flaked on you. Find out your subconscious reason for doing so and fix it.

Don't reward her before she shows any effort.

 

[expos]

Did i got upset? hell no... wrote- sorry to hear that. its not easy , stay strong.

Next!!

Nice work! I did this to a girl last summer. She flaked on me one night and I bailed for good (she had another guy lined up.) I think she was stunned by my move and even blocked me on Facebook. LOL.

Always have the strength to next and walk away. When you have options, you should have no problem getting rid of people.

 

[RangerMIke]

Okay.... if you haven't figured this out yet... and appearently many of you have not. There are three reasons why she flakes:

(1) Something really came up. If a women is really busy or if something really comes up, then the excuse she gives you makes sence. excuses like "my kid is really sick", "I had a death in the family". Any reason that really would be a legitimate reason to cancel.

(2) She is testing you: Usually she will just say that something personal came up and she had to cancel without detail. If she is testing you, you likely will not get details on why she is flaking. This is part of the 'test' she is trying to see if you are going to dig for a reason. If you fall for this and start asking why, then you fail.... you have to just take her on her word. Tell her another time and try again later.

(3) She is not interested. She is not lying to decieve you, she is fibbing to send you a message. If she gives you an absurd reason then she is sending you a message:

When she says:

"I can't make our date because my hampster died"

What she really means:

"I don't really want to go out with you, and to send you that message I'm giving you an absolutely stupid reason and hope that you know it's stupid and get the message"

Best to just move on, but if you respond the way she hopes you do (you walk away) she will think twice about you. If you go all beta on her and start talking about how it must 'hurt' to lose a hampster then she will think you are an idiot. Best just walk away not even acknowledge the stupid excuse she gave you and pretend that her cancelling on you doesn't bother you in the least.... Don't even say "I understand", just say "No problem, maybe another time, be in touch, good bye."

She might not like you enough to go out, but at least she will respect you.

 

[nismo-4]

Okay.... if you haven't figured this out yet... and appearently many of you have not. There are three reasons why she flakes:

(1) Something really came up. If a women is really busy or if something really comes up, then the excuse she gives you makes sence. excuses like "my kid is really sick", "I had a death in the family". Any reason that really would be a legitimate reason to cancel.

(2) She is testing you: Usually she will just say that something personal came up and she had to cancel without detail. If she is testing you, you likely will not get details on why she is flaking. This is part of the 'test' she is trying to see if you are going to dig for a reason. If you fall for this and start asking why, then you fail.... you have to just take her on her word. Tell her another time and try again later.

(3) She is not interested. She is not lying to decieve you, she is fibbing to send you a message. If she gives you an absurd reason then she is sending you a message:

When she says:

"I can't make our date because my hampster died"

What she really means:

"I don't really want to go out with you, and to send you that message I'm giving you an absolutely stupid reason and hope that you know it's stupid and get the message"

Best to just move on, but if you respond the way she hopes you do (you walk away) she will think twice about you. If you go all beta on her and start talking about how it must 'hurt' to lose a hampster then she will think you are an idiot. Best just walk away not even acknowledge the stupid excuse she gave you and pretend that her cancelling on you doesn't bother you in the least.... Don't even say "I understand", just say "No problem, maybe another time, be in touch, good bye."

She might not like you enough to go out, but at least she will respect you.

Ranger, even an excuse like a death in the family or a sick child can be disguised as low interest.

I have a one strike rule for new women. If she flakes, she is erased and replaced. She wouldn't flake out on Channing Tatum, just like you wouldn't flake out on Kate Upton.

Now, I understand that some excuses are legit, but I move forward regardless, when it comes to new women. Care less than she does, otherwise your betatude will show.

 

[Between_The_Lines]

Ranger, even an excuse like a death in the family or a sick child can be disguised as low interest.

Very true.

Who questions something like sickness, death, or a family crisis? Girls who have mastered the art of creating plausible deniability know this all too well.

Larry David once (on Conan I think it was?) talked about how much he genuinely loves when people cancel on him, how it means he now gets to spend the rest of his night in the comfort of his own home without having to entertain anyone or put up with anyone's sh1t. I don't think of any of us here would perceive that as the ideal outcome, to now be ecstatic to be free to go home and play with your d1ck, but his absolute lack of agitation or frustration at getting flaked on is exactly the not-easily-rattled state of mind people who take cancellations personally have to gun for.

 

[zorg198]

Brothers

Yesterday talk was the end of talking from my part. i event stupidly asked her if she's OK (lesson learned ) i'm not going to talk to her again or ask her for a second chance of date.
If she flaked or gave an excuse it means low interest. done deal.

I have her on Facebook , i don't know if i should erase her or block her. what should i do?

Like Nismo says - case closed

Joe.

 

[Between_The_Lines]

Brothers

Yesterday talk was the end of talking from my part. i event stupidly asked her if she's OK (lesson learned ) i'm not going to talk to her again or ask her for a second chance of date.
If she flaked or gave an excuse it means low interest. done deal.

I have her on Facebook , i don't know if i should erase her or block her. what should i do?

Like Nismo says - case closed

Joe.

I take it this is a girl you met recently after breaking up with your ex? If so, there's no reason to delete her. If you barely know this girl, you ask her out, and she flakes, I'd say removing her is overreacting. She might come around later on, who knows? She's a drop in an ocean of women. Don't even think about what to do with this one girl anymore and simply move on to other women.

 

[RangerMIke]

If a woman gives you a legitimate reason why she had to cancel.... And it ends up being a lie you will eventually find out. Because if she is a liar... And she thinks she got away with it because you did acknowledge or challenge it, then she will do it again and you will catch her.

Not critiquing anyone's game but one strike to me seems harsh. But if it works for you then do it, everyone should have game that fits your personality. I used to have 'rules'... not anymore. But it is important to understand how most women think and what works on most women to give you a framework to deviate from. Like Napoleon said no plan survives first contact. But you have to know when you are getting away from what typically works because you will have risk factors.

For example, if you ask a woman out and she flakes on you twice... but you want to try again... then fvcking do it, if that is what you want. Just as long as you understand that it is making you appear desperate. My brother in law did this with my sister.... patient persistence. .. he gamed my sister for two years in college and they've been happily married for 30 years with kids and now grandkids.

It is possible to be persistent without looking weak... just treat her like another plate. Laugh at the little games she might be playing that she learned from some female love coach and understand what she is really attracted to and be that man.

 

[zorg198]

Yeah you are right , i barely know her so i really don't care.

I will keep her becaues i don't see any harm with this.

Come around? hmmm if she flaked and gave this kind of reason she is crazy.

I'm almost 60 days of NC with my EX , its freaking hard so i think i will manage keep NC with her , lol

 

[zorg198]

If a woman gives you a legitimate reason why she had to cancel.... And it ends up being a lie you will eventually find out. Because if she is a liar... And she thinks she got away with it because you did acknowledge or challenge it, then she will do it again and you will catch her.

Not critiquing anyone's game but one strike to me seems harsh. But if it works for you then do it, everyone should have game that fits your personality. I used to have 'rules'... not anymore. But it is important to understand how most women think and what works on most women to give you a framework to deviate from. Like Napoleon said no plan survives first contact. But you have to know when you are getting away from what typically works because you will have risk factors.

For example, if you ask a woman out and she flakes on you twice... but you want to try again... then fvcking do it, if that is what you want. Just as long as you understand that it is making you appear desperate. My brother in law did this with my sister.... patient persistence. .. he gamed my sister for two years in college and they've been happily married for 30 years with kids and now grandkids.

It is possible to be persistent without looking weak... just treat her like another plate. Laugh at the little games she might be playing that she learned from some female love coach and understand what she is really attracted to and be that man.

Interesting...

I never met her , i saw a post one of the people i study with so she replied there and i sent her a msg.

So the flaking thing is something i know of and wad very aware that is going to happen sooner or later.

Also i was well aware that if she gave her number is not something i should celebrate because she would give it to every guy who hit her and fill her ego.

Now- since yesterday i didn't contact her and i'm not gonna . the question is , will the effort to ask her again is wise? i fell i'm wasting my time and just move on to another girl.

 

[the_stig]

Of the few hundred online dates I've set up over the years, it's uncanny how often they suddenly become sick just hours before our scheduled meet. They must spend half their lives "sick"! If only they realized that most of us have heard their tired lame excuses all too many times.

We don't get many young women in my line of work, but when we do, it's always the same predictable bull: Can't come in today, I'm sick. Can I go home early? I don't feel good. You want me to do whaat? I'm young and cute give me special treatment. It’s like they all have the exact same brain. There is no variation to their behavior whatsoever.

The biggest problem is we take the word of women as gold in this country and it's pathetic.

 

[zorg198]

Update,

I don't want to open a new thread so i will write it her.

yesterday i said to myself i need to start going out and hit woman. enjoy myself.

Went out by myself , i started to dance around woman. i saw a chick sitting and approached her.

Started to talk with her , i noticed she always chatting in her phone. told her your boyfriend is not leaving you alone (i'm not sure i needed to say that )
she repled , no , he's not my boyfriend and so on...
after talking i started with kino... touching her hand , leg. amazingly she was letting me do that , lol.

After half of hour she tells me , why you won't give me your number and i will call you when the story with the other dude won't go well.

I replied no. she said ok, i told her you know what? give me your number and i might thinking of calling you. took my phone , she wrote her number. called to check its her.

Need to say she was with her girlfriend and she was always talking with her, one AFC move from my part i asked her what you talking with her , idiiot.

She was tired , long day , blah blah balj , showing some low interest in her words. she crossed her legs and hands.

She left and told me , i'm going home , if you might thinking calling me so do.

Now- Her friend asked me what's going on and so ... told her i don't know.. i need to understand how to handle in this situation because this is sh!t test she's pulling to tell her friend. also i did some things i shouldnt, like telling ym age , what i do and so on...

Should i call her?

Also- I have OkCupid account , her friend just send me a msg...

Hey , i saw you in the party last night, problem is she's ugly

What should i do?

 

[EvilSpirit22]

You should wait a few days before calling her. And as far as her friend is concerned, that depends on you whether you want to be her friend or not. Ugly chicks actually have hot friends and she can help you getting other girls.

Don't pedestalize the hot girl and as you know you are coming from a place of No Contact challenge and you are working out really hard, DON'T LET A WOMAN F*CK YOUR GOALS. And focus on yourself and your process of healing and getting better.


Talk to her, Fix a date and See how things turn out for you. But don't abandon your goals even if the girl falls in love with you. Game her and Enjoy the pleasures.

 

[zorg198]

Yeah i hear you...
I am in NC for two month and i quite amazed from my transformation.

I am not in a idea that something will come up from this. i just want to game her right and see what's going on. also this post reminds me the other chick who gave me her number and we set up a date. so i need to understand what i did wrong back then and apply it now. regardless she is a chick i saw and talked so its different.