It would be so much easier to be gay

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I think I'm one of the biggest homophobes on this board so let me say a few things.



First of all:
This guy is a virgin at 27 so he is obviously having doubts about his sexuality. There are too many clubs to meet women in to have to resort to the cellpool of a gay night club.

You guys need to step back and really look at his words. He is at his wits end trying to connect with women and aware or not aware he is almost ready to give up...hence the barely disquised ....I wish I was attracted to men...comment.

My suggestion is to go pay to get laid. Splurge on a high class call girl for a night and see if your enjoy the connection with women.

He is 27...what's the wait for. Nevermind the shy shyt. When your desperate you get over it and just do it.

Secondly:

I agree with Puerto. Chicks were rebuffed. Dudes were attracted. Remember I've been up in a gay club. My girl couldn't turn her back without those ho's getting scandalous. The dudes could sense that I was straight and only looked. They left me alone...even when my girl was gone to the bathroom and a new faggot walked in the door.

Faggots can tell who's straight and who isn't just like we can. I realize that there are a lot of straight gang banger looking and acting faggots these days...but that lifestyle does leave it's imprint of energy on you.

That is another reason why I asked to see some people picture.

If this guy is leaning in that direction, he will start taking on the energy and then it will start acting itself out.

He will begin to make eye contact in a submissive sort of way....and all the rest of the non-man gay shyt.

This dude needs help real bad. But I've found that you can't change what's inside. If he is gay then so be it. I actually lost my ex-girlfriend over trying to change a gay to straight....long story.
 

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Originally posted by Player_Supreme
I think I'm one of the biggest homophobes on this board so let me say a few things.

Secondly:

I agree with Puerto. Chicks were rebuffed. Dudes were attracted. Remember I've been up in a gay club. My girl couldn't turn her back without those ho's getting scandalous. The dudes could sense that I was straight and only looked. They left me alone...even when my girl was gone to the bathroom and a new faggot walked in the door.

Faggots can tell who's straight and who isn't just like we can. I realize that there are a lot of straight gang banger looking and acting faggots these days...but that lifestyle does leave it's imprint of energy on you.
PS, while you may be well-versed in other areas I think you reveal your ignorance of the social manifestations of sexuality here. You say that you've been up in a gay club and 'they' left you alone exactly one sentence after saying you were in there with a girl. WTF.

One of the first things that a woman looks for is a ring or other sign of attachment. Gay men are no different. If they didn't approach you, its because they saw you with a woman and probably noticed how uncomfortable you undoubtedly were in there and not because you failed to register as a blip on their gaydar.

As for "when a new faggot walked in the door" you were already emitting and air of unapproachability, and even were you not, gay dating practices do not entail singling out a new guy and immediately offering to suck him off. Would you approach a women the second you saw her without signs of interest or even a general idea of who she's there with or her present state of mind? Probably not.

Bottom-line, no matter how qualified you are to give advice on any of the other subjects, this admittedly happens to be one of your weaker areas so where you're intentions may be noble, you have little to offer this debate.

And PRL's still an ass.

-CyranoDeBergerac
 
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Player Supreme - there is no such thing as "HOMOPHOBIC" - read my post "prelude to Chump caught in the matrix" I explain this fallacy - this is part of the lies told to control your begavior and to accept them as "normal".

Player Supreme good post! You hit on the head. F@gs can tell if your effeminate by your aura / presence and how you carry yourself - your movements, your eye contact, how you sit /walk and talk!!!!

Fags hit on anything that moves - there is no dicsretion - these perverted wh@res have sex with animals, children, and do other sick shyt in groups.

Cyrano is a f@g himself - so he is well versed on such behavior!

You can tell who is a f@g on this site by the advice they give - they think like a woman and as a man thinketh so is he! They give weak advice and sound like a biatch!

Me and player supreme give advice that is direct and unwavering and we don't pvssy foot around with an issue and show wishy washy thinking!. Is it no wonder that we both are the most adamantly against this f@g iissue and our thinking is the most masculine!!!

Biatches, Hos, and Hypocrites!!!!

BTW, do you know cyrano de bergerac was a f@g in real life (don't act like you didn't know) and the biggest afc - read his poetry. I see why you picked your screen name because you are a pvssy too - biatch!!

Self Control, I.m not saying you are a homo –but your title alone gives a hint that your thinking would entertain such a option – read your title, read it again – does a man talk like that? Would player_supreme make such a statement, would any alpha male make such a statement, would any don juan say such a statement??? So why are you!!!!!
 

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squirrels....well said man


And we're not lucky, we just don't give a fvck. When you learn how to do this as well, you will begin your improvement.
The first time i got laid was by my oneitis......when i cared about her she wouldnt go near me.....when i got the i dont give a shyt attitude, the i dont care about you attitude, the i dont call you back attitude, the dating other girls attitude she practically threw herself on top of my d*ck.


I would rather lick the clam any day then have *** up my a$$ by an HIV queer. Dude if you are a virgin at 27 you are doing something wrong man. How can you not get laid is the question? Do you have any female friends? If you hang arond girls you will get laid buddy. Maybe you need to lower your standards i know i have. The girls a tag dont need to be perfect 10s....i settle for 7's.....nothing less then that.
 

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Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
You can tell who is a f@g on this site (named after wrestler,wink)by the advice they give - they think like a woman and as a man thinketh so is he! They give weak advice and sound like a biatch!(we all know who i'm talking about so why don't we have it out in a war thread)

Me and player supreme AND THA REALNESS *PLOD*give advice that is direct and unwavering and we don't pvssy foot around with an issue and show wishy washy thinking!. Is it no wonder that we both are the most adamantly against this f@g iissue and our thinking is the most masculine!!!

Biatches, Hos, jakethasnake,and Hypocrites!!!!

THIS POSTS OWNS YOU!!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:

PLOD OWNS YOU!!!!

*P.L.O.D.=P.imp L.egion O.f D.oom
 
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Puerto Rican Lover:

"Player Supreme - there is no such thing as "HOMOPHOBIC" - read my post "prelude to Chump caught in the matrix" I explain this fallacy - this is part of the lies told to control your begavior and to accept them as "normal".


Yeah, I agree. Homophobic is the gays word to us old style men to make us feel some kind of inferiority thing about our views on their lifestyle.

As if being Homophobic is a bad thing. I call it Men of the light. We represent the light of life. Life wants to grow. Life tells man to breed. So we have sex with opposite sex ie women.

Their lifestyle is a dead end...nevermind about adoption or invetro methods. The most perverted thing I saw on TV was these two gay assed grown men in a loving relationship trying to raise these adopted kids.

I feel for those kids. Can you imagine how that would be going to school and the other kids find out....never mind about how behind society is and how this "should" be a perfect world...

I know a man who was raised by two lesbeins. He is a very light skinned black man with very white features. He is also very fu.cked up sexually. He tried to date on of my clients and did but they never had sex. She dumped him after 6 months of this bull shyt.

The shyt just doesn't work. Just think if Monday morning life flipped a switch and everybody decided that for the rest of their lives they would be gay and stop breeding.

Mankind would die out.

Faggots need us breeders to keep producing more kids....so that they can continue also.

Oh hell I saw another "gay" thread on this main page. I'm getting tired of seeing that word "gay". It get's old. I know fags sneak in here and post up. I know there are faggots trolling the high school section looking for confused people like self-control to turn to their side....and no I don't believe in a conspiracy either.

enough said this post is already way too long on a dumb assed subject.

And we still haven't heard from it's originator yet.
 
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Originally posted by CyranoDeBergerac
If I am the first to be accused then let me be the first to respond.

PRL, I actually must thank you for I have at last found humor in one of your posts if not enlightenment or anything constructive. Finally, a voice has spoken to spur us onward into the new age with childish antics and lame epithets.

The first prong of your attack accuses me of becoming angry with PS for being too masculine and presuming I know more about the way gay men think.

There is a distinction between Angry ramblings and intellectual observation. Suggesting that PS might not be the best judge of a situation because of his own personally held beliefs is not an insult. Perhaps contrary to your belief, there are a few holes which are better served without your d1ck in them.

Yes I do know more of the sociology of homosexuals because I have several friends of all creeds and types and some of them happen to be gay including my best friend. I've said it once and I'll say it again, gay men make great wingmen. As for myself I maintain an impeccable personal record as both a man and a heterosexual and neither of which are up for your scrutiny. Despite what you may think I better myself through all my associations. I hold no prejudices and will not be lectured to about how ignorance is a masculine trait.

The second prong of your attack is that I talk 'like a b1tch'. Its called diplomacy, you know, that skill you use when you don't feel like burning any bridges or going to war over trifles. So coming from someone so obviously ill-versed in the art of courtesy, I can respect your sentiment that I'm eloquent, if not a bit long-winded as a badge of honor. Meanwhile Diplomacy also calls for the practitioner to speak in their opponents language and so I offer you this: "Fvck off you antideluvian bastard, you can't draw me into a war over who's got the biger d1ck. I'm a lover not a fighter, so you just go off and fight your little war. I'll be right here. Making my girlfriend hit the high notes."

Is that manly enough for you?

-CyranoDeBergerac

Hold on Cyrano let me get my dictionary, so that I may understand the words that you speak...ok, now I understand!

My attack has two prongs, damn and I thought I came at you with my sword and not a fork. Maybe it's the fault of my double vision.

You did clarify some things on why your mindset is as sensitive as it is towards this issue, not that I believe you though.

You say ignorance is not a masculine trait, so why do you possess so much of it - is it because you are so feminine?
I'm going to make you eat your own words. You are the reason why I started the thread, "Time to expose effeminate so-called
dk's". (Thread was deleted by Mods(. Here are your exact sentiments that were expressed days ago but they have just come to my attention today. You've been taking about me behind my back, like a girly...here are your exact words...


Cyrano says,

You again?
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Do I sense disdain because I differ from you on homosexual perversion? why? Can I share my opinion without asking for you permission before I post.
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Cyrano says,

The number one reason that you're advice is pure unadulterated bullsh1t is that Gay men are attracted to (gasp) men! Alert the media! So naturally manliness is a bonus.
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I never called someone else's advice bullshyt and here you are like biatch being judgmental -WHAT THE HELL GIVES YIU THE RIGHT TO JUDGE ME __HO!! BECAUSE YOU HATE THE TRUTH I SPEAK!! Do you have demons in you that you would like to loosen?

Why not attack my statements and prove their fallacy? I tell you why, because you don't have the rational thinking and logical processes of a man to defend yourself, and it is impossible to defend a lie against truth. You are weak-minded - you can put words together fine but you have difficulty in thinking correctly, because your foundation is rooted in a lie and a lie cannot be supported! This is mental suicide!!!!

Put the crack pipe down brother, put the reefer down, leave the pvssy alone - it's having an deteriorating affect on your rationale and when you lose this you become emotional like a woman and become ungentlemanly like and undiplomatic....here is a sign of your diplomatic skills...
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Cyrano says,

Now that we've heard from Pedro Le Pew, what does a real DJ know that you don't?

And PRL's still an ass.

-CyranoDeBergerac
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What was your motive for writing and thinking these unprovoked slanders? Wow! Still an ass - when did I begin to become one? Were you calling me names before behind my back Biatch!! You obviously had all this anger pent up for months and when I posted on someone else's thread (not yours) you took this topic of homosexuality to heart...and very personally, I might add. Now that was the straw that broke the f@gs back after all these months of holding you perverted thinking to yourself!!!!!


I never said anything to you or about you for two months and I just found your comments today – Mr. diplomatic hypocrite, your attacks were unprovoked - fool!! I can say what i want and choose how to say it, and I sure the hell don't need the advice of an effeminate, captain-sav-a-homosexual.

Understand? Your logic regarding Player Supreme’s knowledge of the characteristics and thus presence of a f@g is so weak...let me enlighten you ignoramus....Player is not around f@gs 24/7 such as yourself, however does he not know how an apple tastes because he only had one, or must he have a thousand to eat to make a judgment on how an apple tastes??? Since they are of the same species (kind) and are of the same likeness and come from the same tree, inferences can be made from eating one apple and inducing correctly that they all have the same general taste within their species and that it is not the taste of a orange!!!! Does your brain hurt now?

I know why you guys don't like my posts, it's because you have to think and deliberate on what I write to understand fully the meaning of my message!! And you despise the truth of its' content. You love a lie more than truth and because of this you will always be on the losing side!!

To continue with my logic (are you talking notes Player_Supreme - this sound logic is needed and can improve the pimp game!). Let me go further and tell you why player_supreme is better qualified than you in spotting and recognizing a f@g

Player_Supreme is a very masculine male, an alpha male, so to speak. He don't back down from those who challenge him - he perseveres and then destroys his competition. We are of the same ilk - bred and fed true knowledge of the ho pimp game, because we speak out of experience - we have a total of 51 years of combined experience since the age of 18. Counting our early teenage years we will reach over 60 years of early manhood to maturity of dealing with women from teenagers to 50 years old. So when I cal a wh@re a wh@re, I know what I'm talking about. And when he calls a f@ggot a f@ggot, he knows what he's talking about just based on experience alone (yeah there have always been wh@res and f@gs, this is not a new phenomenon).

Let me take the knowledge further of why Player_Suoreme knows a f@g when he sees one...wake up Cyrano, class is in session!!!

Player_supreme is a teacher in the game of 'knowing' people for what they are, both the male and the female. He study's people not from what they say but what they do - this is crucial when dealing with hos because as soon as you let your guard down the wh@re takes advantage of you when you are asleep - so you have to be alert or else you will get burned at your own game - and that is no-no for a player.

Player_Supreme knows very well the traits of masculinity (since he is a alpha male) and the persona and aura of a man. You can just about smell the scent. And so it is with the female, and he would probably be acquainted moreso with the quakities of a female since his expertise is mastering her. He had many subjects at his disposal over a 26 year period of manhood.

Now who would know more than he on when a man is out of his character and when a woman is out of hers! Or when a man carries himself as a woman, Player would see it right away since this is an aberratrion of of the man's true nature to have feminie qualities and he knows exactly what those qualities are because of his vast experiences with the female species. So something is naturally out of place and his mind registers this and tells him -that's a f@g. God forbid the f@g opens his mouth, you'll know within a nanosecond. Plus you can smell the scent of his aura that he exudes to catch another man that something is out of order and not in its' proper place!

Homosexual males do the same thing, but when they look at a man and everything is in its' proper place and a natrual masculine conduct is the result, they then say, 'oh' he is straight. Notice the word 'straight' meaning everything is in line, in place in its' true natural order!! Oh this is getting heavy, I didn't know I was going to get this deep. But if I know it, I have to tell it!!!!

I know the non-thinkers are sleeping at their keyboard - these are the same individuals who slept during class in high school when they should have been awake getting an education to strengthen their minds! Continued on next post....
 
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Not only did you erroneously judge me but you also judged Player_Supreme and were wrong on both occasions. You thought you knew more about homosexuals than Player Supreme because you were physically and emotionally closer to them, but this was the error in your thinking that made you fall with both of us – your personal attachment to f@gs does not make you more knowledgable than either of us, because it has nothing to do with ‘closeness’ to the subjects in question! Rather it is closely tied to the true nature of a man that is universally applicable to all men which is categorically labeled as masculinity! Yes, the ubiquitous testosterone ‘be a man’ dictum that is so talked about by Don Juans - true Don Juans.

So you see Player_Supreme is actually a better judge of character in this matter because although he is far removed from homosexuals on a daily basis, he is more closely tied and in keeping with his true nature as a man (as a man thinketh so is he) and thus knows the true nature of a man and the characteristics that make up the male, and that which differentiates him from the female! You have to look at it from the true nature of a thing and not let outside influences falsely determine what a thing is because this would only corrupt its’ true value.

This ties perfectly with the topic of my recent thread, “Chump caught in “The Matrix” (“The BIG LIE”) –WHICH HAS BEEN CENSORED AND DELETED _ NOT TOLD WHY? … which revealed the artificial outside corrupting forces that called something out of its true nature and said it was good, even though if has weakened its’ condition from its’ original state. So we have the female taking on the qualities of a male and the male taking on the characteristics of the female!! Thus, weakening the status of the man to a supplicating chump and resultantly strengthening the role of the female. Read the 2 threads again and see my point more clearly.

When you corrupt nature (truth), havoc is the resulting outcome – lo and behold, the current condition of the male and female in its’ worst state, in time immemorial!!!!

Thanks Cyrano, for illustrating my point of my, “Chunp caught in “The Matrix” (“The BIG LIE”) thread, by playing the role, although unsuspectingly, of the weakened thinking and state of the modern man.

I guess you want to counteract me, and my intellectual reasoning with one of your angry ramblings. Let me give you some sound advice kid, since this a forum to do such. Rid yourself of embarrassment and keep quiet, Your foundation is weak and crumbling, and a lie will not stand in my presence!!! Where does darkness go when light appears, in the abyss?

Be a man and keep your dignity!!!!!!

Now read my signature in humility. As a true Don Juan, I am not beyond accepting a sincere apology!

I can e-mail “chump caught in the matrix (The BIG LIE)” to any body that requests it!
 
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Brevity is indeed the soul of wit so I'll keep this short, and do try to follow along.

It first bears noting that 'prong' is a military terminology used to distinguish points of concentration within a given assault. So, by definition, if you are attacking me from three fronts, the central focus of your force is referred to as a prong. Also, its lexicography comes not from eating utensils, but from spears and tridents and other such niceties of the warmaking game.

You say that PS is more qualified to judge because he is an alpha male and hence, since he has been to a gay bar, he knows what one is not and can definitively judge, as you put it, 'manliness or lack thereof".

I assure you I'm no slouch in the Alpha dept. myself, the difference being that I am not drunk on my own testosterone. The simplicity of your arguments amuse me, so here is the 'logical' (you thump your chest with it as if you were an authority of sorts) refutation of your little diatribe:

Yes, having tasted an apple having tasted an apple once, someone can be reasonably assured of a similar experience a second time. But we are not arguing apples. The question at hand is not recognition, the what, of gaydom here, but rather the why. You proclaim that PS has studied things as they are and has thenceforth come to understand great things about people and in doing so you recognize the relevance of experience, so lets talk experience. PS has admittedly stated that he is a homophobe and inherently this means he stays as far away as possible from them. Wake up call. Seeing a person does not a psychologist make. He may be able to tell you that a particular person did or did not do something, but he cannot presume to discern the motivations behind the action based on his one trip where he didn't talk to anybody, and had no interest in pursuing the knowledge. I can can tell you why, because I too am an observer of people. Also, because I lack the distance and inherent barriers PS erects (no pun intended) I have an unobstructed view to the truth, instead of just a piece or two coupled with a vivid imagination.

Furthermore, for my previous attacks. I just came back around a week and a half ago. All I know of you is that you've never supported a DJ in need, you've been here two months to my paltry year and a half and you have more posts than I do, and that which I read in your posts. You dare chide me for calling you an ass when you shoot your mouth off and implicate fellow DJs to be everything but children of god. My courtesy only extended towards PS because, up until that point, I had no reason not to be diplomatic. I respected him as a fellow DJ and a fellow human being, a respect that has wained for his present company. In short, I extend all the amiability to a fellow DJ until they prove themself deserving or undeserving of my respect. Don't strain yourself trying to figure out where you fit in. You've been naught but a blight upon this board, and quite an arrogant one at that. I've not even the interest of civility towards you, as you have shown none for your fellow DJs. Sir, you disgust me, and I mean that in the nicest way possible. :D

In the meantime I will not highjack another thread so you can thump your chest with your d1ck and gorge yourself on your own j1zz.
 

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I'm guessing that your chump caught in the matrix thread was deleted because you said the "secret code" to Israel was 666.

PR_L, it sounds like you have just a tad of a man-crush on player_supreme. No offense, it's just that your fascination with him borders on idolization.

Hey, you're a self-made millionaire huh? I'm Bill Gates! That's great. Oh, sorry, I have to go, Sarah Michelle Gellar is naked on my bed right now begging for some. Uma Thurman is with her! Later.
 
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Cyrano:

" PS ..... and ........ he stays as far away as possible from them. ....."

Unfortunately this isn't true. I've been to the gay club many times with my ex-girlfriend. Eventually my hatred of gays waned. I do not approve of the lifestyle, but I do not wish to do gay bashing anymore also.

My hatred came from conditioned responses that were prevelant during my upbringing. I have spent many hours contemplating the whys of gays. I have even tried to turn one back to this side of the fence. I had mistakenly figured that this person just needed to learn how to handle women and not be afraid of them since he had a strong dominante mother as many gays were proffessing to have back in the 80's when the jumped out of the closet. I was wrong.

My study and conclusion of the why's comes down to a metaphysical answer:
1. They say souls can be reborn. Maybe they were women in their last life time and they can't quite shake the energy of that time. I've read that souls are being reborn at quicker rates than ever before...without the sluffing off period of centuries.

2. The morphic field that represents man, needs for some people to be shut off to the breeding drive or call. We are experiencing over population in many areas on a metaphysical level.


I actually do feel sorry for them. To be born with that condition isn't something I would wish on my worst enemy.


Mankind tends to fear what it doesn't understand. When my ex and I started watching that drag show...I was grossed out by the number of men all hugged up with other men.

My ex's father was a gay dude. Plus her being a woman made her more understanding than I was. I sought to reach her level of understanding. I failed.

But I learned alot in the process.

Right after I came to this site there were several young men who seemed to seek my attention in an unusual manor. Whenever I went on line...there they were constantly IM'ng me.

After a few chats I figured they were indeed confused young men. I then blocked my name from being seen on line. Theses fella's came from this site and www.howtobeaplayer.com.

Their common theme was
1. I don't want a girlfriend, or have sex with a woman yet
2. I only come here to better myself.

That is why I hate seeing fella's say "I'm here to better myself"

There are gay men on this site unfortunately.

I can understand PRL"s fear and desire for a site without this and other problems that happen on sosuave.
 
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Thank you for the lesson in etymology on the word 'prong' - but again your ass is too tight and your mind too hate-filled to see the levity in my manner of speech.

I'm sorry cyrano if i hurt your fragile male ego - but you needed a little humility and I gave it to you, so eat it and be well. Are you the owner of this board? You have been here for two years to my two months so that gives a right to lambast me and my excellent advice? Do I smell envy, becuase I am of a better mind? I think so.

So you call me an ass because you have DJ seniority over me - HUH??? You are non-sensical. Do you fear that I am taking over your audience - they are not your property to be had. It is the best advice given that has seniority and not time or number of posts -your logic once again fails you.

Check my recent posts and look what I have written fool - Everytime a newbie posts - I offer my advice - and itis direct and poignant with a lot of humor but your ass is too tight and are sensitive to your homosexual tendencies (that I'm against() that you read what you want to read in my posts and the meaning is lost in your hate-filled mind. This makes you blind and proud -pride cometh before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall!

You and other feminie so-called DjJ's like you are a distraction and a scourge on on this board and I am a light to your darkness . Follow my path if you don't want to fall in the ditch -but you are already at the bottom of the pit wallowing in your filth. As long as you have a weak mind and thinking ,your escape from the pit is impossible.

While I'm helping newbies out your pontificating on threads to get attention and acknowledgement. I know why you hate what
I say, there is no need to explain. I know exactly how you think. I actually take delight in your (and others like you) disust as I see this as a compliment and am encouraged that I am saying the right things.

I would have more time to help those in need if I didn't have to respond to your, and other homos like you, falsehoods and flaming. Do I make you feel inferior? Were you the king of the hill before my presence? Am I taking awat tour thunder? Do I make your comments look illogical. Quit judging people because they speak truths - you onlly look very silly doing do so - you fvcking nazi thought police - GO TO HELL YOU FAGGOT BIATCHES!!!! You can't control me wh@re so quit trying to do so....DEVILS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Open your closed mind and accept reality and listen to my advice that I give and use it for your benefit. If you are are a lover of f@gs and wh@res, it is you that should take heed to my words the most and you may become a man after all.

You may have 2 years more dj experience but what is your experience in real life relating to women.. My experience outweighs yours and thus my knowledge of women therefore my advice is more weighty then yours and should be taken as such.

Do you really think I am going to stop posting the truth. because you hate the truth? You just encourage me to post more not less. My advice makes yours look womanly - so I understand why you wish to get rid of my presence. I am here to stay it is women like you that must leave a man's forum - faggot biatch!!!!
 
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Originally posted by Porky
I'm guessing that your chump caught in the matrix thread was deleted because you said the "secret code" to Israel was 666.

PR_L, it sounds like you have just a tad of a man-crush on player_supreme. No offense, it's just that your fascination with him borders on idolization.

Hey, you're a self-made millionaire huh? I'm Bill Gates! That's great. Oh, sorry, I have to go, Sarah Michelle Gellar is naked on my bed right now begging for some. Uma Thurman is with her! Later.
Porky - i think you are right - code to zion - didn't even think about that...sorry if i offended anyone.. However I'm thinking it had to do with the truth of the thread tegarding the effeminate male and his/her emergence. Too many feminine dj's complained and thus the deletions. They deleted 2 threads - one had nothing to do with the code!!

Player Supreme is not afraid to embrace his masculinity and is unashamed for doing so, unlike many homos here.
 
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Puerto Rican, I think your thread was deleted because no one cared!

Do you think youre some sort of intellectual or something? Your writing is hella boring, not to mention infinite, and is incessantly clouded by such ignorance.

Which sucks. Because, honestly, I think, for the most part you are a smart guy. I mean, you write fairly well (grammatically). For the most part, your advice is pretty dead on and sensical (admist all the "filler" you type)

But then you just fukkin ruin it with your "say no to hoes" bullshyt one liners and your anti gay bashing..

Why? Why tarnish the assets you bring to the board with your absurdities? That's the only reason why you lost me dog..are u doign it on purpose? Are you for real?

Now player supreme? He's just an overaged nerd who plucks his eyebrows:)

But that's neither here nor there.
 
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jbbrain - my writing is boring to those who do not read for understanding, but only read for entertainment - it is not meant for everyone - I agree.

I can read a few hundred pages in a book in one day and it is not boring to me, but I know people who can't read 3 pages before they are uninterested. They are the types that like to be entertained all the time, they derive their satisfaction from movies or visual things, because this there is much less thinking involved (this has been proven), when eyes are used versus the thought part of the brain. Guys are easily deceived by women because it is the eyes that we use to entertain ourselves with when it comes to the opposite sex and not our brains. This has been mistakenly diagnosed as thinking with our penis! It is really the lust of our eyes that we become slaves to and thus blinded to the woman's reality This is why guys are always shocked and surprised when their girl says, "I need space". This was an important lesson I just gave here guys - if you are smart you'll take heed to my words.

So I understand your rationale but don't take my essence away because it doesn't fit to your liking. How about if I told you - jbbrain, I don't like your posts because they are to brief and shallow and do not provide enough depth to help with the topic at hand, and quit putting the fag agenda out there. Do I ever tell you this or others? No. Why haven't I? Because it is none of my business of what you say or how you say it, period. I respect everyone's input - can we not learn more with various minds thinking and contributing?

My advice here is in most need because I gave you the 'other' perspective on the issues that 200 dj's agree on and spit the same knowledge. I am the balance to your extreme of 'get laid with the wh@re' advice. Ying Yang at work here - let the thread starter decide what is best for him and not gang up on the person with the differing view. Isn't this the tolerance you preach on the fag issue, but yet do not apply it to a more noble ideal -'free speech'. Can you at least giive me this God-given right?
And quit trying to take it away!

I am not going to force my opinions or my personality on you to try to make you think like me and say things my way. To each his own!! You have your talents and I have mine. Neither of us are right or wrong on 'how" we express ourselves. We are just being who we naturally are. So when you attack me on how I think or how I write then you are attacking me personally and not focusing on my words and my position. Tell me where I am wrong with my logic or understanding on a topic - I'll respect you for this. But to say it's 'boring', has nothing to do with the position's correctness or the the truth spoken or the 'quality' of the advice given. Do you understand?

Many of my comments or one-liners are sometimes said in jest, but that can't be expressed in cyber-space so easily.

I have nothing against men who have domineering feminie qualities, it is the 'act' that is abominable and thus their character. But what has gotten me in such a tizzy as of late, is their incessant demands that others deem their lifestyle and thus behavior as acceptable and good. If any person believes otherwiswe they are chastised and reprimanded for doing so - oh how the tables have turned, evil has been made fair-seeming.

I get along fine with homosexuals, cause they know where I stand, and if they don't, I tel them. Half of my neighborhood is homosexuals. I don't know there business nor do I care, but when they start telling me their sexual desires then I find that it is out of place and direspectful to me as a man. I talk to men like a man - I never assume someone is a fag. Why should I? There are many men who are not but are labeled as such because of there less rhan masculine traits - i assume nothing out of respect for that individual!

The only way I know if they are a homo is if they bring it up in convo. I don't know what they do in the bedroom nor do i care -so why are they bringing it up in the pubic arena. I thought homos said that what goes on the bedroom is there private business and the government and others should have no authority over their behavior. So why are they now in public screaming over 'rights' to be a fag? HUH???? Now they want acknowledgement and public sympathy and understanding on an issue that they claimed 20 years ago was a 'private' matter and no one else's busines?? HUH? Can you see the inconsistencies?

Worst yet, fags are going to public schools under the false banner of "diversity" and teaching grade school children to respect homosexuals for who they are and what they do!!!!

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE?????

Where does it end? I am unafraid to speak truth and you have cowardly men not standing up for what is right and our children are suffering and are carrying a heavy burden under the weight of the wh@re / fag agenda. Is it no wonder young men today have the mind of women and far removed from their masculinity. Is it not evidenced by the threads and questions posed on this board. I never knew men were in such dire need of assistance in knowing what to do with a woman. To be far removed from something so inbred, is a travesty. There has been an outside unnatural corrupting influence on our childrens' minds. This was the motivation and the purpose of my thread.."Chump caught in "The Matrix" ("THE BIG LIE"). If you read for 'insight' and to 'gain knowledge', you will benefit more from my long rants.

If I didn't have to explain my position on a topic and respond to flaming as much as I do, my posts would be half as long. As evidenced by my last 4 replys on this thread! I write my posts to give insight on a matter - now re-read this post and purposely look for its' meaning - you'll find much if you had a open mind and not bias towards my writing style or the words I use.

As much as I argue with some on this board, I have no hard feelings towards any. Why should I? I don't even know you nor do you know me!! I actually appreciate your animosity towards me and thrive on its' challenges. You guys make me think more wholeheartedly and clearly on an issue, because withiout your antagonism, I would have no issue to reflect upon. Thanks for keeping my brain busy! I like it! You guys are the wind beneath my wings! :)

Free your mind,
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Originally posted by Player_Supreme
Cyrano:

" PS ..... and ........ he stays as far away as possible from them. ....."

Unfortunately this isn't true. I've been to the gay club many times with my ex-girlfriend. Eventually my hatred of gays waned. I do not approve of the lifestyle, but I do not wish to do gay bashing anymore also.

My hatred came from conditioned responses that were prevelant during my upbringing. I have spent many hours contemplating the whys of gays. I have even tried to turn one back to this side of the fence. I had mistakenly figured that this person just needed to learn how to handle women and not be afraid of them since he had a strong dominante mother as many gays were proffessing to have back in the 80's when the jumped out of the closet. I was wrong.

My study and conclusion of the why's comes down to a metaphysical answer:
1. They say souls can be reborn. Maybe they were women in their last life time and they can't quite shake the energy of that time. I've read that souls are being reborn at quicker rates than ever before...without the sluffing off period of centuries.

2. The morphic field that represents man, needs for some people to be shut off to the breeding drive or call. We are experiencing over population in many areas on a metaphysical level.


I actually do feel sorry for them. To be born with that condition isn't something I would wish on my worst enemy.


Mankind tends to fear what it doesn't understand. When my ex and I started watching that drag show...I was grossed out by the number of men all hugged up with other men.

My ex's father was a gay dude. Plus her being a woman made her more understanding than I was. I sought to reach her level of understanding. I failed.

But I learned alot in the process.

Right after I came to this site there were several young men who seemed to seek my attention in an unusual manor. Whenever I went on line...there they were constantly IM'ng me.

After a few chats I figured they were indeed confused young men. I then blocked my name from being seen on line. Theses fella's came from this site and www.howtobeaplayer.com.

Their common theme was
1. I don't want a girlfriend, or have sex with a woman yet
2. I only come here to better myself.

That is why I hate seeing fella's say "I'm here to better myself"

There are gay men on this site unfortunately.

I can understand PRL"s fear and desire for a site without this and other problems that happen on sosuave.
You bring up some interesting arguments. One of which I want to adress. You say, or at least insinuate that in order to be considered a heterosexual you need to want to be with a woman at that particular moment. You further say that those who do not conform to this standard you've set, and are thus homosexual, rationalize their presumed apathy by rallying under the banner of "Self-Improvement".

If I knew nothing else this would make sense to me. The fact of the matter is though that even the revered Pook advocates taking breaks from the opposite sex in order to focus that energy on other pursuits. Its easy to get caught up in chasing skirts, and indeed it serves evolutionary purposes quite well, but a man is not the sum total of his urges. Man is not a beast, he can control his thoughts and his actions, and to abandon yourself to hedonism is counter-productive and a waste of all the blessings of life you claim to uphold.

Furthermore, in order for some men to build those towers and forge those legacies, they need a single-minded focus. This is not to say that they would not desire female companionship, but that they would rather get their sh1t together before undergoing the emotional entanglements of a relationship. I can respect that. Surely there have been periods in your life when, quite frankly you were so invested in achieving certain personal goals than getting laid and all the effort that entails would only be a distraction.

Guys come here for support. Either to lend it or to recieve, or a hapy medium therein. Period. The fact that some seem to need it a bit more than others is unfortunate, but that's because they haven't gained as much of the mindset of self-respect as you at the time. This very site specializes in taking boys who are but shells of men, wrecked and ravaged by the harsh realities of what passes for relationships, and turning them into the greatest versions of themselves.

Two common factors:

1) They do not focus on themselves, but rather on others beyond themselves. In essence they become victims, pawns of popular belief strewn about by the winds of change and reacting accordingly.

2)This insecurity permeates their very being to the point where they become extremities of themselves and their manhood.

If you value your privacy and wish not to be bothered, that is one thing. However; to see these characteristics and tendencies in others, yet ignore them in yourself is vanity. To ascribe to their cries for help some untoward ulterior motive is vice. To deny them on that account is villiany.

Enlightenment is not a conclusion reached after carefully weighing your opinions. It is a higher state of understanding. Not when you know the answer to the question, but when there is no question because everything exists at peace. Enlightenment can only be achieved when you know yourself so well that you can see yourself in everything, and embody respect and acceptance accordingly. Personally, I think harboring a sense of pity for their percieved victimization at the hands of an evolutionary imperative might just be missing the point. If you were gay, you'd want to be gay and neither would your worst enemies if they were of the same fate. I've never been quite comfortable seeing two homosexuals kiss and grope one another(Lipstick lesbians aside), but they need not justify themselves to me or the court of public opinion any more than you or I. You may not like saurkraut, but enjoy yams. I don't like yams, but I like saurkraut. Chalk it up to taste. There's no accounting for it, but even if there were why would it matter?

Whatever previous experiences you've had aren't quite as valid to me in terms of scholarly discussion because you went into those situations with your mind already made up. You have a theory, but a theory only becomes law after you've honestly begged the question. Eventually, if you are to reach enlightenment you'll have to confront those dogmatic beliefs and realize your parents might have be a bit biased as people, and hence with your upbringing. Don't let those walls that they've erected for themselves become dikes (no pun intended) to stem the flow of knowledge, and hence barriers to your enlightenment.


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Cyrano you said

You bring up some interesting arguments. One of which I want to adress. You say, or at least insinuate that in order to be considered a heterosexual you need to want to be with a woman at that particular moment. You further say that those who do not conform to this standard you've set, and are thus homosexual, rationalize their presumed apathy by rallying under the banner of "Self-Improvement".

My answer

I have no idea what standard your talking about. I was relaying my experience since I’ve been on this board. Homosexuals are attracted to the same sex. There is no standard other than that.


Cyrano you said

If I knew nothing else this would make sense to me. The fact of the matter is though that even the revered Pook advocates taking breaks from the opposite sex in order to focus that energy on other pursuits. Its easy to get caught up in chasing skirts, and indeed it serves evolutionary purposes quite well, but a man is not the sum total of his urges. Man is not a beast, he can control his thoughts and his actions, and to abandon yourself to hedonism is counter-productive and a waste of all the blessings of life you claim to uphold.

My answer

1. Pook is not revered to me. I do admire his intelligence and writing style. I have read only one of his posts, and that is all it took to see a very intelligent well spoken individual. It’s no wonder guys such as yourself put him on a pedistal.

2. You are also well spoken and you too seem intelligent.

3. We are not talking about hedonism here. We are speaking on homosexuality. Nice words though. Mankind is more animal than you think. Look at the fact that women can actually smell a man who will make a good mate for her and produce good offspring.


Cyrano you said

Furthermore, in order for some men to build those towers and forge those legacies, they need a single-minded focus. This is not to say that they would not desire female companionship, but that they would rather get their sh1t together before undergoing the emotional entanglements of a relationship. I can respect that. Surely there have been periods in your life when, quite frankly you were so invested in achieving certain personal goals than getting laid and all the effort that entails would only be a distraction.

My answer

Never! And I think this is the difference between me and you. I am well tied into my physical body. I am not just mind only. I feel the inner stirrings and nature of my manhood. And so can my women as per these IM and Emails clippings:

Col : I cannot feel their manhood... their being... you how in tune I am tune 2 that.

T: you felt so manly to me. i know that sounds kind of silly like "of course i am manly" right? but i feel and smell and taste your manhood...
T: you just are all man and it is a big turn on for me

Sa s: u touch me with moer than that
Sa : u give me butterfies even to this day...

SLV: absolutely....NO ONE compares to you baby
SLV: I like how big you are...your dominance over me physically and mentally...it really turns me on...NO ONE but you has ever had that kind of effect on me
SLV: some men TRY to control me, but they all fail

I think Cyrano and act as a man should!

I work hard and I play hard. I control my life and everything in it. I chose long ago to work for myself instead of someone else handing me a pay check to walk to the bank. I also control the women whom I let in my life…as it should be in my opinion.


Cyrano you said

Guys come here for support. Either to lend it or to recieve, or a hapy medium therein. Period. The fact that some seem to need it a bit more than others is unfortunate, but that's because they haven't gained as much of the mindset of self-respect as you at the time. This very site specializes in taking boys who are but shells of men, wrecked and ravaged by the harsh realities of what passes for relationships, and turning them into the greatest versions of themselves.

My answer

Once again your getting away from the subject of homosexuality. Nice words though.

1. Why do men need support groups these days.
2. This site is for learning how to get women. It has become a support group over the years. I’ve read too many posts were posters were longing for the old days to come back.
3. Since when do MEN need support groups? This is for women.
4. Shells of men…that was good. I like the way you write. You remind me of me when I was younger and writing speeches. What these men need is a swift kick in the nuts to remind them that they do have a set. Not babied and coddled and pampered. I do not agree with the modern version of man. Years ago I complained about a commercial. The avaiance commercial which started with a woman singing she could bring home the bacon and fry it up in a pan and never never let you forget you’re a man. That song changed to every now and then I need a helping hand..in the background it showed a man doing the chores…then it even got worse…just as men in our society have.

Cyrano you said

Enlightenment can only be achieved when you know yourself so well that you can see yourself in everything else, and embody acceptance and accordingly. Personally, I think a sense of pity might just be missing the point. Eventually, if you are to come to this point, you'll have to confront those dogmatic beliefs and realze, your parents might be a bit biased with your upbringing. Don't let those walls that they've erected for themselves become dikes (no pun intended) to stem the flow of knowledge.

My answer

Hot dam your good. “Enlightenment can only be achieved….” Now that was some good ****. And your explaining the key to enlightenment? You should market that and sell it since you’ve discovered the secret of the ages bro. Ok here it is:

1. My father was not only in the army and air-force, but he was also a musician. Very open minded. He had a transsexual singer in his band. Sorry my ideas do not come from my parents. They come from studying life. As you get older you will realize that there actually is a flow to life.
2. It’s ok to pity homosexual. They are blocked from the calling of life. I feel sorry for anybody with this problem. Don’t bother with the adoption stuff or artificial crap. It’s not that serious. There is a reason for them not to want to breed.
3. Like I’ve posted I’ve done a lot of thought on this. I am a big practicioner and study-ier of metaphysics and life. I am a 2nd degree Reiki practicioneer. I’ve lectured on metaphysical subjects. I have a tv show that is now being shown all over this country and soon Europe in the same area on PBS. Yeah Yeah I realize that is hard to believe. If you look at my photo’s you will see nothing but book shelves in the background. 90% of those are metaphysics or on life itself. Metaphysically their life style doesn’t work. They do represent a new but old and now powerful energy on the planet. Their movement has taken on a force of it’s own now. To think that they would get straight men to be afraid of being called homophobic is amazing PR work. No, I’m not a conspiracy nut. The gays do have a lot of political power these days. Look at how they got Eddie Murphy to censor his stand up routines…do you think he was kidding about them harassing him?



In Conclusion:

I do feel sorry for you if you’ve bought into the whole “I’m gay so don’t discriminate movement.” Homosexuality is a dead end. It’s a lifestyle choice. Even if your born with it. You stated above about man this and man that. If man is so smart then why choose to follow the programming that says “gay”. *

There are still a lot of homosexuals on this site. Why I guess they are attracted to straight men or are looking for confused men whom to turn to their side of the fence. I don’t know. Maybe you have an answer to this pondering question.

It’s funny to see a man defend homosexuality these days. You must be from the younger generations. I can see that this is the way things have become. Please do not use the discrimination card due to my color. I didn’t choose this skin…they choose evertime they put a dyck in their arse.

Thinketh as a man thinketh and maybe you will hear these type of words:

Nothing makes me feel like I have done my job until I know you are satisfied in every possible way.

I am so drawn to you that is a bit scary and unexpected.

Or these:

I can feel you touching me as I read every word you write.

Or these:

You put me at ease and make me feel safe and cared for.



What kind of man do you want to be. A whinny wimp or stand up as a man.

It is I who truely feels sorry for the younger generations. You've never know a world with homosexuality rammed down your throats and in your face evertime you turn on the t.v.

Believe it or not...it used to be that way!
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Originally posted by Player_Supreme
My suggestion is to go pay to get laid. Splurge on a high class call girl for a night and see if your enjoy the connection with women.
How do you do that? Where do you find call girls?

Folks always tell me to go pay for it, but never tell me where :(
 

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Originally posted by Legend
I would rather lick the clam any day then have *** up my a$$ by an HIV queer. Dude if you are a virgin at 27 you are doing something wrong man. How can you not get laid is the question? Do you have any female friends? If you hang arond girls you will get laid buddy. Maybe you need to lower your standards i know i have. The girls a tag dont need to be perfect 10s....i settle for 7's.....nothing less then that.
Yeah, I've got some female friends, but they see me as platonic only. It's ****ed up--I can game them, be massively C&F, do storytelling, ballbusting, display alpha bodylanguage, do takeaways, even some mild NLP patterning and still not build up any chick's attraction.

I think the problem is that a lot of you guys are good-looking and the game is therefore much easier for you. When you've got an ugly mug, it's a massive uphill battle. For us, the question is "HOW CAN YOU GET LAID?"

The other problem, if you haven't been laid at all, is that you don't have a non-needy aura. Typically, the only guys who can get laid are those who are already getting laid. So if you're both ugly and a virgin, it's a tough struggle.
 
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