It really pisses me off the amount of abuse you have to endure to get laid

[christoff522]

i dont get it.

Seriously why are you worrying so much?

If you're that desperate for vag00 you're gonna fail all over.

tonight I pulled an easy 7. I sat and talked to her and saved her from some burly black guy. I got c0ckblocked by her dad back at her place but so what. I just enjoyed the moment.

It's desperation thats the problem with you, Sex is not the result, having someone literally beg you to see them again is enough for me,

Just enjoy what you already have, strive for better, but be the best you and just fall into the possibilities.

You see this is the problem with people sometimes on here. We have guys like pook and anti-dump telling us the answers to our problems: BE A MAN

Its not about sex, it's about going out and having fun, loving life, embracing manhood, and then the rest falls into place. Why are you freaking out so much? Why are you sitting at the taxi rank thinking about all the time you wasted? Why are you so desperate for sex? Why are you listening to sob stories? You will feel pathetic!! Because you're being pathetic!!

Get a grip man, a DJ isn't seeking constant penile release, he's enjoying himself, he's living his life. You should of just kissed her at the taxi rank and said, "all will be will". Stop seeking release and chill out man, jeez.

And stop going after AWs!!

Sex does not make you a man, numbers on a bedpost is not the end result, when you're dying you won't think "I had sex with hundreds of uninterested women", you will think "I had xxxxx who loved me, I loved me, I lived a good life, thank God".

 

[christoff522]

Brief synopsis of my game: I DON'T GIVE A F*CK!

When I go out, which is often these days, I NEVER go out without the mentality of "I have to get laid tonight". In fact my only goal is to have fun, in any way. I can have fun BSing with my boys, chatting about sports, music, talking to interesting characters, meeting new people, and of course gaming women but it's never my first priority.

I'm a 7 (maybe higher to some women) but I can make people laugh like nobodys business. I'm sarcastic, I talk sh*t (never in a mean spirited way), I take em down a peg. I DON'T give them all the power because at the end of the day they have none anyway.

Honey, I just came to have a drink with my boys, you're simply a bonus.

Do I get laid every night, hell no but when I do I never have to jump through those hoops, I can take it or leave it. Being detached is a blessing. In fact now I don't even ask for their numbers, I just try to close it then and there. If I don't what's the likelihood of reigniting the drunken connection a week later? In my experience it's a pretty slim chance.

So Skinny I challenge you: go out tonight, Halloween, night of the drunken slut, and forget about women. Forget about openers, forget about negs, forget about all the PUA BS that's in your mind and simply be you. A badass Indian dude who loves to have fun. Throw down a few shots and smile you bastard!!! :rockon:

This is the way to think, just be out enjoying yourself, If you're endless seeking sex a girl will detect this and think...loser.

If you're just out to have fun, a girl will fall into your lap, whether you approach or she approaches is irrelevant, you're just out to have fun, and whatever happens is irrelevant.

My friend, aged 40 (I'm 28) spent the entire night alone, why? He was seeking sex, I went up to one girl I happened to know, talked to her, enjoyed her company and boom I'm back at her house. Had her dad not c0ckblocked me I'd of done her tonight. But in the end it's irrelevant. I enjoyed her company, kissed her all night, and had a nice little fb messaged saying "hope you got home okay". I'm still deciding whether to pursue it or not because she was rude to the taxi driver.

You see I ain't selling myself, I'm deciding if SHE is worthy of MY company. She was taller than me as well AHAH.

I'll admit, I went out tonight because of all the hot halloween girls, Nothing like a girl in ripped up leggings with zombie makeup on. But in the end, none of it really matters, sex is one part of life, and it's not the be all and end all. A hooker is £40, less than the price of an average night out, and you get a good amount to choose from. If you just want to get laid find a good quality brothel.

Why do you go out? Skinnyguy, you bring a great deal of negativity to the proceedings. Just live your life to the full, and stop fretting over dating websites. If you go out and have fun with your friends, SOMEONE will want you, approach someone you like, and instead of selling yourself, let someone sell themselves to you. The correct way to be is inquisitive, mysterious, and happy!

 

[gravityeyelids]

it's kind of annoying. The last couple times i've gotten laid... as SOON as i get off, the first thought in my head has been "that's it? All that work for that? Sh**...i should've just jerked off."

Even when you have that poo-tang on lock down, you still have to: arrange logistics, make sure you have condoms, tidy up your room a bit, take a shower, put clothes on, get her there, sit down and bullsh** for a bit, take your time in getting em warmed up and horny, etc. etc.

Maybe the problem is that im seeing sex as simply getting off rather than making a connection with someone. However, it's so fvcking hard to find someone that i connect with and am interested in beyond just wanting to sleep with them.

 

[Between_The_Lines]

The last couple times i've gotten laid... as SOON as i get off, the first thought in my head has been "that's it? All that work for that? Sh**...i should've just jerked off."

This sentiment is magnified several hundred fold when you're tangled up in a bad relationship

 

[Packers2010]

:yes:

Heh, the dreaded taxi wait. The dead zone when you're so close but so far away and bringing out the unicycle and clown nose is not out of the question.

Good stuff WDW

i drive to the club. problem solved.

when going out you have to stack the deck in your favor. anything you can do to make it there faster do it.

 

[Packers2010]

Exactly.

If you're not a 8+ prepare to have a very sad dating life. You either have to go for fatties or put up with a decent looking woman treating you like scum.

To be honest I'm starting to think that gaming women isn't worth it.

Most guys go to the gym for one reason: to get women. That's borderline pathetic in my mind.

I'm starting to get tired of all the pandering and bs that men have to go through to get laid. Women don't need to change themselves at all to get guys to hit on them.

thats a problem of society. the amount fo chodes I see hitting on girls so badly it's pathetic.

I don't see the point to being drunk and belligerent, I like to stap sharp and have my whits about me.

 

[Packers2010]

I just the the op just had a bad night and is bitter about it.

i mean... this is the **** you have to put up with to get laid... whats the other option not get laid?

 

[backbreaker]

Some random thoughts triggered by this thread and a slight overdose of Geritol:

I have a theory that the well-adjusted females, as few in number that they are (less than 2%) are snatched up early in life and essentially have reasonably happy and stable marriages. Out of the remaining 98%, all of whom are adversely affected by the media, a large portion become married, grow to despise their "nice guy" husbands, divorce, and the cycle continues.

Another portion of these stay single, ride the c carousel, and eventually settle down later with a beta provider. The disdain/divorce/remarriage cycle then starts.

The rest stay single up into middle age and beyond. There is no hope for these as they become so set in their ways that now man can ever be "good enough" for them. Many become extremely masculine, and by this time they have created a life where other things have taken the place of the desire for a man (pets, hobbies, social circles, careers, etc.) Still they think they "should" be looking for a mate so they half-heartedly hang out on Internet dating sites.

The entire pool of 98% are divorced from reality and cannot transcend the group-think of their chosen heard. It is literally 100% impossible for them to think apart from the heard that has adopted them.

This is why women are "never wrong" and why they need plausible deniability for every breath they take. They have become 100% reactors and spokeswomen for the herd. They are trapped inside this prison and they have no desire to escape a prison that they are not even aware exists.

The reason we have so much trouble finding quality women is that the pool of quality, well-adjusted women is made up of that 2% who are recognized for what they are and are consequently married at an early age.

Women today, as a whole, are destroyed. The hoops that we have to jump through in order to even relate to them would seem unimaginably bizarre to any man as early as 50 years ago. No one imagined it would get this bad. But men have abdicated their leadership and the constraints that women so desperately need have been removed. Hence their collective dissipation into classless, clueless and often heartless monsters. This pile of trash used to be the 2%, but the ratio has reversed and the 2% are now the quality ones.

On being a "nice guy"... "Niceness", by its very nature, is despised because it is manipulative and transactional intrinsically. Excessive niceness is an advertisement that a man is willing to trade his self-respect for either pvssy or social acceptance. I used to be guilty of it myself for I didn't know any better until I arrived here.

A man must develop himself in an "I come first" frame, not out of megalomania but rather out of a desire to help others because he is becoming the best and strongest man he can be. It is similar to what they say in an airliner if there's an emergency... Adults are to put on their oxygen mask before assisting the child with theirs. If the adult dies, the child dies.

A man cannot help others in an unselfish and non-manipulative way until he develops a soul of iron and the attitude of a king

A man's respect is generated by one concept: Poise. I'm working on an in-depth essay on the concept of poise, because I believe this is the key concept from which all else in life flows. Poise encompasses self-control, emotional stability, strength, confidence, and leadership qualities.

Both men and women react positively to a man of poise. Note that the attributes of masculine poise are completely the opposite of intrinsic female attributes. Women are attracted to men of poise because they crave that which they lack.

There is definitely a such thing as female poise, a quality that has been eroded away in the 98%. Female poise conveys a degree of self-control, respect (a concept that is TOTALLY absent in them today), gentleness, and you guys know the rest. These are immensely desirable and rare traits, traits that we men hunger for but cannot find except in the upper echelon 2%.

In summary, we have been forced to mold ourselves into a dancing monkey template in order to get the attention of today's modern women. In large part, we must mold ourselves into the likeness of television and movie characters instead of authentic, self-determined men that the 2% value.

I am becoming increasingly aware that I will pay any price to be a man of poise, because when I become that I will become a man of value in my own eyes. In the process of becoming a man of poise, I am choosing a life of less universal appeal but greater appeal to the upper echelon of humanity, the tiny percentage of humanity who value quality of character over societally-defined charisma. To pursue societally-defined charisma is to be diminished in value in my own eyes and in the eyes of others. It is to become common.

Rise above, gentlemen.

Regarding working out, the OP makes the mistake of thinking we do it only to attract women. Not so... We do it first as a gift to ourselves, and then secondarily to attract women, but thirdly to garner the respect of other men. Men always assign a higher level of value to a man who is in shape. There exists a very definite diminishing return on this however. Muscle-bound is far less attractive than fit and muscular. For me this is the sweet spot, and most definitely when I am in shape, the world defers to me much more readily, male and female alike. And I go throughout the day feeling good about myself because at age 57 I move around like and have the body language of a 25 year old.

I'm all over the place in this post but as you guys know it is my habit to occasionally do a brain dump here for what it's worth.

Take away one thing from this post: Poise is everything. Become a man of poise and you will not only garner the respect of others but will garner authentic respect for yourself, something that is quite apart from an inflated ego. It is an honest, fair and positive valuation.

stop stealing my material lol

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1909672&highlight=draft#post1909672

you know, i am a big draftnik.. in general I just like drafts. nba draft, nfl draft. hell I even keep up with the mlb draft. so these last 3 days needless to say I just have been glued in front of the TV watching the NFL draft , while trying to explain to my wife the differences between the 4-3 and 3-4 defenses, what a person with good hips means and so on and so forth.
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once you get past the first, really the first 2 rounds, eveyr year in the nfl draft there are like, usually 50 to 60 players that if you can get they are just going to improve your team regardless of who they are.

but more times than not, l a team is going to draft for their scheme they run on offense and defense. a team that runs a 4-3 is not going to take a 340 pound nose guard, or a 5 technique Defensive end. on the other hand a team that runs a bunch of zone blocking on ofense is not going to take a 335 pound tackle who runs a 5.3 regardless of how good he is beucase he can't move downfield / off blocks..

I say all this to day,

men, you have to recruit women that fit your scheme.

You have to think of the set of rules or red flags as you doing your talent evl of a nfl prospect. there are certain things you can live with ther eare certain things you can't live with. but if you just took every half decent name that came up that you rememvered from watching TV you would never make the playoffs becuase half hte guys on your team have no business on your team depending on what scheme you are running.

when a woman does not make the cut, you just need to go on to the next prospect.

Look at the patriots. if they do not see any value where they are, they just don't take players just to take them they move down in the draft or move out of it altogether and will just wait until the next year. You have to be willing to be single versus having plates that don't fit your scheme. That's what it all comes down to.

you get out there and mack enough women the plates will come and from those plates some good women that will pass your crieteria.

this is why when I was single, I think i might have made no more than 5 posts about issues i was having in a 5 year period. and i assure you i was getting plenty. i just refused to deal with plates that did not fit. under no circumstances. "yeah my ex i dont' know what he sa.NEXT"

you are really cute but I want to take things slow but hey let's go out to eaNEXT"

No i'm not interested in putting in time to get into your pants, i want women who look at me and are turned on by me and want to have sex with me. i want women who can't keep their hands off me. i don't neogiatie attraction. I work my ass off and i don't want another part time job clocking in just to get you in bed. if that makes me a jerk well girl you can get in the goonie goo goo mobile and get the fvck out.

Go ari gold on that ass, get the fvck out. I just refuse to deal with drama. Even if it means not going on dates, but i over came my very itchy next finger with an unrelenting abiltiy to approach women and talk to them so I always had girls in the hooper.

well i'm not going to say any drama. if a girl had built up some good will, i can let a thing or two slide if you can make your case. my wife with the hole baggy thing, she had built up enough goo;d will in the previous month where i could let that slide if her story was true which it was.

but stuff liek this, this is just a woman not fitting your scheme. you need to keep mining for prospects
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[backbreaker]

Some random thoughts triggered by this thread and a slight overdose of Geritol:

I have a theory that the well-adjusted females, as few in number that they are (less than 2%) are snatched up early in life and essentially have reasonably happy and stable marriages. Out of the remaining 98%, all of whom are adversely affected by the media, a large portion become married, grow to despise their "nice guy" husbands, divorce, and the cycle continues.

Another portion of these stay single, ride the c carousel, and eventually settle down later with a beta provider. The disdain/divorce/remarriage cycle then starts.

The rest stay single up into middle age and beyond. There is no hope for these as they become so set in their ways that now man can ever be "good enough" for them. Many become extremely masculine, and by this time they have created a life where other things have taken the place of the desire for a man (pets, hobbies, social circles, careers, etc.) Still they think they "should" be looking for a mate so they half-heartedly hang out on Internet dating sites.

The entire pool of 98% are divorced from reality and cannot transcend the group-think of their chosen heard. It is literally 100% impossible for them to think apart from the heard that has adopted them.

This is why women are "never wrong" and why they need plausible deniability for every breath they take. They have become 100% reactors and spokeswomen for the herd. They are trapped inside this prison and they have no desire to escape a prison that they are not even aware exists.

The reason we have so much trouble finding quality women is that the pool of quality, well-adjusted women is made up of that 2% who are recognized for what they are and are consequently married at an early age.

Women today, as a whole, are destroyed. The hoops that we have to jump through in order to even relate to them would seem unimaginably bizarre to any man as early as 50 years ago. No one imagined it would get this bad. But men have abdicated their leadership and the constraints that women so desperately need have been removed. Hence their collective dissipation into classless, clueless and often heartless monsters. This pile of trash used to be the 2%, but the ratio has reversed and the 2% are now the quality ones.

On being a "nice guy"... "Niceness", by its very nature, is despised because it is manipulative and transactional intrinsically. Excessive niceness is an advertisement that a man is willing to trade his self-respect for either pvssy or social acceptance. I used to be guilty of it myself for I didn't know any better until I arrived here.

A man must develop himself in an "I come first" frame, not out of megalomania but rather out of a desire to help others because he is becoming the best and strongest man he can be. It is similar to what they say in an airliner if there's an emergency... Adults are to put on their oxygen mask before assisting the child with theirs. If the adult dies, the child dies.

A man cannot help others in an unselfish and non-manipulative way until he develops a soul of iron and the attitude of a king

A man's respect is generated by one concept: Poise. I'm working on an in-depth essay on the concept of poise, because I believe this is the key concept from which all else in life flows. Poise encompasses self-control, emotional stability, strength, confidence, and leadership qualities.

Both men and women react positively to a man of poise. Note that the attributes of masculine poise are completely the opposite of intrinsic female attributes. Women are attracted to men of poise because they crave that which they lack.

There is definitely a such thing as female poise, a quality that has been eroded away in the 98%. Female poise conveys a degree of self-control, respect (a concept that is TOTALLY absent in them today), gentleness, and you guys know the rest. These are immensely desirable and rare traits, traits that we men hunger for but cannot find except in the upper echelon 2%.

In summary, we have been forced to mold ourselves into a dancing monkey template in order to get the attention of today's modern women. In large part, we must mold ourselves into the likeness of television and movie characters instead of authentic, self-determined men that the 2% value.

I am becoming increasingly aware that I will pay any price to be a man of poise, because when I become that I will become a man of value in my own eyes. In the process of becoming a man of poise, I am choosing a life of less universal appeal but greater appeal to the upper echelon of humanity, the tiny percentage of humanity who value quality of character over societally-defined charisma. To pursue societally-defined charisma is to be diminished in value in my own eyes and in the eyes of others. It is to become common.

Rise above, gentlemen.

Regarding working out, the OP makes the mistake of thinking we do it only to attract women. Not so... We do it first as a gift to ourselves, and then secondarily to attract women, but thirdly to garner the respect of other men. Men always assign a higher level of value to a man who is in shape. There exists a very definite diminishing return on this however. Muscle-bound is far less attractive than fit and muscular. For me this is the sweet spot, and most definitely when I am in shape, the world defers to me much more readily, male and female alike. And I go throughout the day feeling good about myself because at age 57 I move around like and have the body language of a 25 year old.

I'm all over the place in this post but as you guys know it is my habit to occasionally do a brain dump here for what it's worth.

Take away one thing from this post: Poise is everything. Become a man of poise and you will not only garner the respect of others but will garner authentic respect for yourself, something that is quite apart from an inflated ego. It is an honest, fair and positive valuation.

stop stealing my material lol

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2058836&highlight=6th#post2058836

so. my point and your point being, that any dude that is over the age of 25.. you know what, here is a perfect analogy

dating is like the NFL draft lol. by the time you are 25 you are in the 3rd round of the draft. All of the first round talents, the can't miss girls, who are hot, seet, loyal, with no baggage, with good families, are taken. they are first day / first round picks. these girls are socked up the second they hit the market.


then you got the 2nd round of the draft. the girls who are hot, not as can't miss, but are still loyal and all that good stuff. these girls founds someone in college and are happily married.


so, the bottom freaking line, is that if you are 25 years old, give or take, in the dating game you are dealing with 3rd round.. or worse prospects.

does that mean, you can't find a good woman in the third round? they found tom brady in the 6th. it means that the women aren't can't miss. you are dealing with women who have an issue or some knocks for whatever the reason. doesn't mean they can't work out, but more times than not, it's a reason they slipped to the third round lol.

what zekko is saying is that all the good first round talents are marrying the first round talent guys. sometimes literally and figuratively.these girls arne't marryign bad boys wiith no jobs / careers they are marrying stable men who have bright futures. of course to YOU it may seem that all girls are riding the cc and have issues and like bad boys because you are dealing with 3rd, 4th 5th and 6th round talents lol. they feel this far for a reason. but not all women are like this.

this is the sole reason i decided to get married. my wife is a late bloomer, who traveled too much to get in a really serious relationship and was a work first girl for her 20's. she slipped to the third round because as a 21 year old she would have made a horrible wife. ****, a horrible GF really. but once she quite her job she turned out to be quite the lady and i said you know what, i'm done trying to find sleepers in the 7th round.

that's why to me the end game has always been to weed through women and use plate spinning as a process, not as a lifestyle.
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[DragonBlood]

A man cannot help others in an unselfish and non-manipulative way until he develops a soul of iron and the attitude of a king

A man's respect is generated by one concept: Poise. I'm working on an in-depth essay on the concept of poise, because I believe this is the key concept from which all else in life flows. Poise encompasses self-control, emotional stability, strength, confidence, and leadership qualities.

Both men and women react positively to a man of poise. Note that the attributes of masculine poise are completely the opposite of intrinsic female attributes. Women are attracted to men of poise because they crave that which they lack.

rep AS. I created a tip thread on everything I have learnt about women. I hit on this topic to attract (and keep) girls in one of the points and call it "polarization". By coming from your masculine core you filter out the time wasters and build up better quality girls. I would love to see your essay when its up (please PM) as we seem to be talking about the same thing.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=221473

---Polarize the interaction---
Polarize and have fun to create chemistry. This is SUPER important. Too many guys focus on trying to impress or "game" a girl, which makes you come across LIKE A GIRL. Take the lead, ask her out, tell a women what to do and expect compliance. Women HATE making little decisions and will punish you for being indecisive and unclear in your intent. If the women starts to get annoyed or calls you out on being pushy, calibrate and wait, or just eject the set. By polarizing you are building a more permanent, slower and loyal attraction in the girl and she builds up comfort and trust. Either that or she will walk, no time wasted.

 

[Bingo-Player]

I banged the girl in the end, even got a bl0wjob with a vacuum swallow yet...

You have to give full power to your brain which is quite demanding at night in order to avoid all potential mistakes that can burn you, then you have to embrace a buddha mind and prepare yourself to approach random girls thus giving them the power to reject you to masturbate their ego regardless of your human dignity.

Anyway lets say the approach goes good, she gives you "audience" and you have to do your best while you compete with dozens of other men, she is interested but at the same time she still likes the attention she gets from the other men and the power she has over you so it begins with the tricks of "let me get a drink" and you see her flirting with 5 other guys while you are stressed out waiting cause you dont know if she is coming back and you are wasting precious time, then comes her friend she has to say hi, an hi to the bouncer as well since he let her in for free.

Then again she gives you the privilege or hearing her boring stories while you have to force yourself not to think about something else because failure to follow that bull**** may cost you the notch...you go for the kiss and she turns away, you try again and she turns away again in front of other people pretty much burning your chances with other girls which saw it, you get pissed off an leave but then she finally gets that its too much and let you escalate.

After many more frustrations like being forced to dance till 5am despite she decided from 3am that you're gonna have sex, you finally leave the club and go home not without her complaining about the taxi which is taking too long to arrive and threating to call her friend to pick her up...anyway then at home the bang happens, sometime is good other times you are so tired and frustrated from all the work that after a couple of thrusts you just let it go, the real liberation is hard to say which one was if to release sexual tension or mental one.

The whole time concerned about her friends c0ckblock you which you have to negotiate with as you would with sick people with hostages, some bouncer or cool guy trying to amog you or her hamster simply turning in the wrong direction.

Diary from an average gifted guy. /rant off

HAHAHAHAHA quality post


the threatening to get the friend to pick her up because the taxi is taking so long is priceless how many times I've had that


I'm now at the point where if i feel the woman thinks she is doing me a favour by coming home with me i will just leave her and walk off without saying a word

i was once in a cashpoint que with a potential ONS and she's moaning that she's tired and hungry and just wants to go back to hers

i was standing behind her and before she could even finish the sentence i had run off
:crackup:

i had some pretty abusive texts off her but I'm not being treated like a fvcking hassle

honest to go some of these girls think they're vaginas can cure cancer

 

[sambwoy]

If you're not a 8+ prepare to have a very sad dating life. You either have to go for fatties or put up with a decent looking woman treating you like scum.

Sad's the word. Socially as well as romantically, looks can be principal to success. My outlook on life is not great solely because of my looks.

I've been looking into the lives via internet of men with debilitating conditions like neurofibramatosis (tumours of the skin). They've been bullied in the school years, and now are being reminded by women that they don't wanna fukk them. Not a swinging start into adulthood I don't think. How they see themselves I imagine has become so distorted because of our culture's attitudes.

I will hasten to add that men seem to not get the support that women with body issues get. Double standards again, I think.

If for just one day they just got as much as a lap dance, only then would they see the freaky movie sex and fantasy of being a stud muffin they craved was a big fuss over nothing.

 

[G_Govan]

This is what happens when you chase women with lukewarm interest.