It’s all about the start

[SH03C]

he obviously trolling. like 8 people have told him not to waste his time with this girl, and he keeps tryna say we're misunderstanding him.

Not trolling

 

[Glassguy]

She’s rude AF. Why are you pursuing?

This is a classic case of you have no idea how to handle a woman like this. None. Zero.

Sorry so blunt, but you gotta have a mad abundance attitude. She’s above your pay grade in attitude. I know men who could slay her no problem… but they have pvssy on speed dial and could care less what this one thinks.

That ain’t you bud. Find an easier target.

In other words she is toying with you for her own amusement. She’s advanced game. Needs a serious player to knock her down. You are not that dude. Not yet.

Move along.

Agreed. OP is not even the backup plan, back up back up plan, etc.

"Why would I do that" = instant dismissal. Would never message her again but I also wouldn't delete her number just so if ever texted me again, I would know it was her and make sure it didn't get a reply back from me.

One of the biggest problems with men on this forum (and everywhere) is not that they don't have an abundance mindset, rather they try to figure out how to make something out of nothing. Literally wasting days, weeks even years dealing with a TOTALLY disrespectful woman who has NO interest on them.

Men need to start spending their time and attention more wisely and have higher standards in how they are allowed to be treated.

I find the scenario in this post not only reveals that OP is dealing with an uninterested, disrespectful bytch, but the alarming thing is that he is asking how to proceed with her. In my mind, that is the biggest concern.

OP- you really need to learn to identify IOIs and also learn when to cut your losses early on when you find yourself in a position like this. But no worries, this is how we learn (so that it sticks).

 

[Dr.Suave]

In my experience, theres nothing you can SAY at this point. Your best bet is to go No Contact. BUT if you wait some time and one day, by chance, she sees you out an about looking good (maybe you went to the gym, maybe you got better/tighter clothes), feeling good, having fun talking to girls, etc She might change her tune. She might start texting you and chasing you. Im sorry if this is not what you were expecting, but this has been my experience.

 

[Chuck Taylor]

In my experience, theres nothing you can SAY at this point, your best bet is to go No Contact. BUT if you wait some time, and one day, by, chance, she sees you out an about, looking good (maybe you went to the gym, maybe you got better/tighter clothes), feeling good, having fun talking to girls, etc She might change her tune.

You use enough commas bro?

 

[EyeBRollin]

Waste of time

 

[corrector]

Your thread has a title saying "It's all about the Start". What does that mean?

 

[Konada]

You're right. All these posters are just spitting what gets them the most e-p3nis points here.

I would have done your text game abit differently:
You: Can I ask you something straightforward?
Her: What?
You: Not you
Her: Huh?
You: Sorry who is this? Karen?

At this point, you got her hamster wheel in overdrive because you displayed abundance with women, so much that you don't have her number saved and mistook her for another woman.

With this hook, you can open the conversation again.

But if you want to learn my text game script how to follow up this hook to bang her, you can PM me. Its only $1997 (Usual price is $4897) for the early bird offer which lasts 24 hours after this post.

 

[DonJuanjr]

I know men who could slay her no problem…

What kind of response would they give? Or how would they go about it?

 

[corrector]

You're right. All these posters are just spitting what gets them the most e-p3nis points here.

I would have done your text game abit differently:
You: Can I ask you something straightforward?
Her: What?
You: Not you
Her: Huh?
You: Sorry who is this? Karen?

At this point, you got her hamster wheel in overdrive because you displayed abundance with women, so much that you don't have her number saved and mistook her for another woman.

With this hook, you can open the conversation again.

But if you want to learn my text game script how to follow up this hook to bang her, you can PM me. Its only $1997 (Usual price is $4897) for the early bird offer which lasts 24 hours after this post.

Dont use Karen though. It is a politically ladened name which might mean an insult rather than another woman as intended.

 

[Barrister]

I will play Devil's Advocate here a bit and say that the "Sorry, not you" was a bit of a bizarre text to send to this woman. It looks very contrived; like you are TRYING to make it seem like you are texting someone else something interesting when you were intentionally making it look that way. She saw through the ruse and it made you look silly.

So when you then, without preamble, ask her out for a drink a week later, I can see why her guard would be up. I don't think this woman is "out of your league" or anything like some other posters seem to be indicating -- but at this point in time you are better off moving on. Count it as a lesson and get some other chicks on your radar to game.

Focus on making your interactions light and fun. I get the feeling that your desperation to end your dry spell is probably a flashing red beacon to women right now.

 

[DonJuanjr]

OP learned a valuable lesson. Don't drunk text chicks.

 

[DonJuanjr]

Focus on making your interactions light and fun. I get the feeling that your desperation to end your dry spell is probably a flashing red beacon to women right now.

Since he's not willing to bang a fattie, oldie, or uglie, he must not be that concerned with ending his dry spell.

 

[BeExcellent]

What kind of response would they give? Or how would they go about it?

The entire text exchange is bad. Horrid. OP starts off by asking a question about whether he can ask a straightforward question. Facepalm. That’s newb.

This chick is a lawyer right? She’s smart. Lawyers must successfully read people to be decent at trial. As @Barrister observed the ask out was weird after the contrived “Not you”…and she saw it as the contrived gimmick that it is. Sorry OP. That dog don’t hunt.

I mean what are we? 12? She is now a total witch because she thinks you are an idiot and a time waster.

The way you appeal to a woman like this is you ask her something about herself (without ASKING if you may ask first FFS), and you get her chatting about herself to you.

“Hey I got a friend who clerks for Judge Smith in Superior court. I hear there are some decent watering holes downtown. Where do you enjoy a glass of wine in that part of town?”

Something like that. This is what my playboy friend does brilliantly. He builds rapport based on something in their profile. He also has a law degree himself so he would be very relatable to a woman like this.

OP needs to go get drinks at some good higher end bars and practice socializing in real life. That would help him most as others have stated.

Cheers

 

[SH03C]

You're right. All these posters are just spitting what gets them the most e-p3nis points here.

I would have done your text game abit differently:
You: Can I ask you something straightforward?
Her: What?
You: Not you
Her: Huh?
You: Sorry who is this? Karen?

At this point, you got her hamster wheel in overdrive because you displayed abundance with women, so much that you don't have her number saved and mistook her for another woman.

With this hook, you can open the conversation again.

But if you want to learn my text game script how to follow up this hook to bang her, you can PM me. Its only $1997 (Usual price is $4897) for the early bird offer which lasts 24 hours after this post.

Exactly the kind of feedback I was looking for. For me this broad was just an opportunity to practice and try to refine my text approach or how to pivot a conversation to reframe. Glad you understood this. And no I will not be paying for your services lmao.

 

[SH03C]

Appreciate all the feedback.

As noted this was a horrible attempt on my part but was more interested in some form of practice with a text approach. I surely have along way to go.

Thanks again.

 

[Barrister]

Since he's not willing to bang a fattie, oldie, or uglie, he must not be that concerned with ending his dry spell.

If he's taking relatively good care of himself - fitness, grooming, social circle, etc. - he can easily bang a woman who isn't as you describe. Maybe she isn't a HB 8 + - but she doesn't have to be a sub 4 as you seem to indicate.

 

[DonJuanjr]

If he's taking relatively good care of himself - fitness, grooming, social circle, etc. - he can easily bang a woman who isn't as you describe. Maybe she isn't a HB 8 + - but she doesn't have to be a sub 4 as you seem to indicate.

Of course she doesn't have to be that. Though there's plenty of guys on here that take relatively good care of themselves with fitness, grooming, and social circles that are not easily banging women. For a guy who's been celibate for several years, I think it's best to fvck a woman as soon as possible. Have that chemical/pheromone exchange with a living female, and then go from there. It should raise his confidence, not lower it.

 

[Barrister]

Of course she doesn't have to be that. Though there's plenty of guys on here that take relatively good care of themselves with fitness, grooming, and social circles that are not easily banging women. For a guy who's been celibate for several years, I think it's best to fvck a woman as soon as possible. Have that chemical/pheromone exchange with a living female, and then go from there. It should raise his confidence, not lower it.

Well, we can agree to disagree. I would never have sex with an ugly chick "just to have sex." You sell yourself out when you do that - and lower your SMV to higher class ladies - in another words potentially sabotage yourself. Women want a man who is in high demand - but high demand from other hot women.

Also - confidence comes from your own personal value -- not from how many fat/ugly women you have banged.

 

[DonJuanjr]

Well, we can agree to disagree. I would never have sex with an ugly chick "just to have sex." You sell yourself out when you do that - and lower your SMV to higher class ladies - in another words potentially sabotage yourself. Women want a man who is in high demand - but high demand from other hot women.

Also - confidence comes from your own personal value -- not from how many fat/ugly women you have banged.

But you have never been celibate for several years... It's about priming the pump of his masculinity. How does he lower his smv to higher value women, when they don't know who he fvcked? Being celibate he's not in demand by any woman, let alone high value.

 

[Barrister]

But you have never been celibate for several years... It's about priming the pump of his masculinity. How does he lower his smv to higher value women, when they don't know who he fvcked? Being celibate he's not in demand by any woman, let alone high value.

When it comes to SMV - "you are what you eat." If you are out banging fatties, ugly chicks, etc., you are going to begin being associated with that level of woman by other women and by other men. It will affect you. You are better off being celibate quite frankly.