It’s 2025, I’m going through a I hate women phase. I have to vent here.

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I have some comments on your post.

I weigh 135. Even being male, I'd have a hard time subduing a suspect your size without using lethal force. If you know a female cop (or a small male cop) will only be capable of subduing you through lethal force, that's all the more incentive to behave if you find yourself dealing with a female or small male cop.

I must say: I agree it's foolish how a woman paints every man as a potential rapist.

Err, they paint most men as potential rapists. The ironic thing is they're wet for the relatively few men who really are dangerous (while needlessly profiling harmless men as dangerous). Even with my small size (and professional appearance), gals profile me as a potential threat.

I wasn't aware of the trend to wear lingerie as club attire (I don't go to night clubs). How crazy.

And even when they don't quite go as far as prancing around in lingerie, they have to understand it's human nature for a man to check her out if she's wearing stuff that shows off her figure.
 

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I understand where you're coming from and find it difficult to disagree with anything that you've said. The double standards are particularly grating. Women want equality but only when it benefits them. They demand equal wages and, at the same time, want men to be providers (the mutually incompatibility of those two propositions is somehow lost on them). In many ways, men have become second class citizens. The criminal justice system and the family court system are heavily biased against men. Men have to walk on eggshells to avoid being falsely accused of sexual harassment in certain settings while women who ruin lives with false allegations are almost never punished. It's understandable that all of this makes you feel bitter and resentful. But at the end of the day, hating women is not the answer.

If you really want to blame someone for the current state of affairs, you might as well blame men. They bear just as much responsibility, if not more. It's not like there was a women's rebellion or a civil war between men and women that women won. Instead, it was generations after generations of weak and/or corrupt male politicians, pvssy-whipped husbands and random variety pvssy-beggars voluntarily giving up their power and creating an environment where the weak dominate the strong.

Also, consider this: while women have theoretically obtained a privileged position in society, most of them have no idea what to do with it. Most "liberated" modern women are fundamentally unhappy and lead shallow, unfulfilling lives. What women demand in Tok Tok videos is rarely what they actually end up getting in real life. Those are just aspirational videos, the female equivalent of viral Andrew Tate clips. The average American woman is not going to end up with anything remotely resembling a wealthy and "generous" man.
You summed it up more eloquently than I ever could, thank you. All the reasons you mention have made me despise women .. and the men are who feed into their bs, I hate them even more.
 

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That's the thing. Hookups are easy. Decent long term relationship type women are much harder to come by.

The only solution is to qualify hard and early and keep looking until you find somebody.

Don't allow yourself to get emotionally hooked into an unqualified woman.
In the era of massive female abundance, even hookups are hard to come by.

If hookups were easy to come by, I would have had a hookup more recently than April 2021 (that was seriously the last time I had non-escort sex)
 

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In the era of massive female abundance, even hookups are hard to come by.

If hookups were easy to come by, I would have had a hookup more recently than April 2021 (that was seriously the last time I had non-escort sex)
Hookups are easy to come by for guys who know how to deal with women just because you haven't had one in nearly 4 years doesn't mean there are other guys who haven't. You keep basing your limited beliefs as a general experience. I can tell you from experience and other guys that are hooking up with a new girl every month heck some are hooking up with a new girl nearly every week
 

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Hookups are easy to come by for guys who know how to deal with women just because you haven't had one in nearly 4 years doesn't mean there are other guys who haven't. You keep basing your limited beliefs as a general experience. I can tell you from experience and other guys that are hooking up with a new girl every month heck some are hooking up with a new girl nearly every week
Absolutely true.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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In the era of massive female abundance, even hookups are hard to come by.

If hookups were easy to come by, I would have had a hookup more recently than April 2021 (that was seriously the last time I had non-escort sex)
Saw your pic in another thread, your aesthetic isn’t geared towards hook ups.
 

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I think you just have to stop playing into all this silliness online.

Honestly, the best thing I ever did was to delete all my social media accounts many years back.

It was like a giant anchor was lifted off me.

Try disabling your social media for a month and see how it works...my guess would be you don't go back.

Also, stop focusing on things out of your control and worrying about them.

You can't control what others are going to think, so stop worrying about it. Getting upset about this is a waste of time and emotional energy.

You can control who you allow to speak with you, interact with you and go on dates with you. That's where I'd start. Only entertain women that fit your belief system.

Anything else, let it roll off you like water off a duck's back.
 

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If I was a cop I’d be so pissed to be assigned a woman partner, she would literally be a liability in a 2 on 2 situation
All depends upon whether or not your partner is early 2000s Kristana Lokken, and the adversary she's sparring with is Tobey Maguire at any age
 

Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.

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Seems we're about the same age, so I'd say the best advice I could give is to accept women as they are, rather than how you want them to be.

Women, and people as a whole, are largely the same; late, flakey, self-centered, inconsiderate. When you realize that and expect that, you'll be disappointed less often...
And most women go through a phase in which they hate men: Feminism has become a thriving industry by encouraging men to remain in that mode. We all have a choice to grown and evolve, or to remain stagnant
 

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Now, the trend is they want full time jobs but don’t want to pay an equal share of household bills:

Im so tired of the “men so scary, they will rape me narrative”

They walk around half naked, but I’m a creep for looking:

If you have any boundaries what so ever you’re controlling:
All emotional arguments and part of a woman's DNA. Women are designed the get the best deal possible and will use any manipulative tactic to get there.

You are arguing and venting something women are born with. It's the same as women venting about men just wanting younger women to have sex with.

When u guys think like this, I wonder how you survive in daily life. Remember men, any weakness, any want, any emotional investment, any addiction, will be used against you to fullest extent possible to benefit the other party. Now when you include women in that equation, especially hot young women you want to have sex with, it can get tricky sometimes.

Now the solution? Men have to remember, a woman's love and loyalty is conditional. It is not like his mother's love and loyalty. As a result, all men should want from women, ALL men should want from women, is Sex, Babies, and companionship. THAT's IT. Men should NOT want nurturing, men should NOT want love, men should NOT want to be taken care of. Women are designed to take care of kids. Women are NOT designed to take care of men. This is where alot of issues come from. When men expect to be "mothered", women know they are dealing with a kid, not a man. Turns them right off.

So if a man thinks to himself "I can take of myself, I want to have sex with her, I want babies from her / maybe create a family, I want companionship from her, he will be OK.

When he starts thinking "why didn't she do this for me / care for me / love me like my mother did? Ouch, Barq's has Bite.

Be strong men.
 

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I have my own thread I’m gonna post so I don’t wanna derail this one, but thought I would reply because I’ve caught myself developing more of a bitter and resentful attitude towards women and I want it to stop. This is due to the fact that I have no dating or relationship experience and even though this became a self fulfilling prophecy as to how I got in this situation, I can’t help but feeling that women have now put me into exile to spend the rest of my life in true forced loneliness because none of them want to be a 31 year old guy’s first girlfriend. The majority of women reject men who are older with no experience. So I’ve become more angry and bitter about this over time because this is a situation that requires a woman to get out of, but they would rather leave inexperienced men in this situation than look past it and date them.

As for the points you made, I agree for the most part. The one silver lining about being inexperienced in my 30’s is I’m so adapted and accustomed to being alone without women that I feel like I wouldn’t be someone who will put up with a bunch of their BS just because I finally have a partner for the first time in my life. I’m not afraid to go back to being alone if she does some of the things you describe. A woman who wants/expects me to pay the majority of the time despite her working full time too is not gonna fly with me. Either an even split or we would be through, the fact that she would want to just pocket everything she makes and have her man support her is insane and delusional. That was also a good call you made by not standing for her guy friends staying with her while you’re not there. I was actually just reading a complaint by some guy on another site about how more women these days expect you to be okay with them cheating on you and expect forgiveness. What you said reminded me of that, wouldn’t be surprised if we eventually get to the point of women openly admitting they want an open/cuckold relationship.
 

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In the era of massive female abundance, even hookups are hard to come by.

If hookups were easy to come by, I would have had a hookup more recently than April 2021 (that was seriously the last time I had non-escort sex)
Hard for you, not for me
 

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I understand where you're coming from and find it difficult to disagree with anything that you've said. The double standards are particularly grating. Women want equality but only when it benefits them. They demand equal wages and, at the same time, want men to be providers (the mutually incompatibility of those two propositions is somehow lost on them). In many ways, men have become second class citizens. The criminal justice system and the family court system are heavily biased against men. Men have to walk on eggshells to avoid being falsely accused of sexual harassment in certain settings while women who ruin lives with false allegations are almost never punished. It's understandable that all of this makes you feel bitter and resentful. But at the end of the day, hating women is not the answer.

If you really want to blame someone for the current state of affairs, you might as well blame men. They bear just as much responsibility, if not more. It's not like there was a women's rebellion or a civil war between men and women that women won. Instead, it was generations after generations of weak and/or corrupt male politicians, pvssy-whipped husbands and random variety pvssy-beggars voluntarily giving up their power and creating an environment where the weak dominate the strong.

Also, consider this: while women have theoretically obtained a privileged position in society, most of them have no idea what to do with it. Most "liberated" modern women are fundamentally unhappy and lead shallow, unfulfilling lives. What women demand in Tok Tok videos is rarely what they actually end up getting in real life. Those are just aspirational videos, the female equivalent of viral Andrew Tate clips. The average American woman is not going to end up with anything remotely resembling a wealthy and "generous" man.
I think you make some good points there but I disagree with the sentence I have highlighted inasmuch as feminism has, in many ways, been an ongoing insurrection which has purposefully empowered women and systematically disempowered men.

Feminism is a malicious movement which has infected all our major institutions including government, education, the media, the legal system (criminal and civil) and so on. It's a pervasive discourse and many of its obviously flawed assumptions have become unquestionable axioms and are now a dominant narrative pervasive throughout mainstream western culture.

I agree that men have been too weak in ceding power but it's actually very hard to resist feminist ideology once it takes root. I work in education, for example, and I have been repeatedly discriminated against on the basis of gender but I know that any objection would just be dismissed. I'd then probably get disciplined and probably dismissed if I pushed it - never mind the veracity of my position. So, I choose to keep my head down, because I can't afford to lose my job.

Either way, none of this is accidental because, in many ways, I think there has been a form of civil war waged against masculinity, and it's been going on for decades now so it's effects are really biting for men today.
 

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Hi @cola good to see you, bummed that you feel discouraged, and I cannot disagree on many of your points. I have several buddies who are attractive men who are also disillusioned in their 40s. Two of them have triple digit notch counts but they have hook up burn out. Out of respect for my husband (I've remarried in the time you've been away) I have receded from those friendships; its a natural thing & I expect they must understand.

The vibe thing is very true. Women will smell your disgust a mile away, and find it off putting. While you are on hiatus from social media etc perhaps meditate, consider exactly what you do want so as to set up your subconscious to filter for/manifest that, and I'd suggest doing some volunteer work where you give back to your community in some way. It may help your spirit, and it may expose you to some kind people instead of selfish vapid women you have been running into.

This will pass. You will grow through it. Consider looking at what you can do differently/better too. I know there have been times when I have had "Come to Jesus" meetings with myself along the way....yes, me, a woman, lol. You've got much going for you and in time you will be Ok.

Cheers & all the best.
 

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Really nothing any man can do about this, but I understand the frustration. All you can do is be the best version of yourself possible, make an effort, and move on quickly when you aren't getting what you want.

Social media and dating apps have ruined human relationships and runs contrary to a normal working culture. Nothing we can do about that, pandora's box is open. No one is happy about this... as we are expected to function in an environment that runs contrary to human behavior. B!tching about this is pointless, but it does help to vent.

Most men today act like women... and it's making women crazy.

I'm in my late 50s now and what worked and works for me.... no longer works for younger men. My advice always is for men to take care of their health and abandon bad habits. Watch what you eat and put in your body... work out... be social... bust your @ss and women will find you. This sh!t doesn't work for younger men when it comes to getting quality women, but it is still the best advice. Sure... eventually women will come around, and sometime in your mid 30s, women their age will come around... but by then these women are so emotionally damaged because she spent her 20s bouncing from one dude to the next attracted to superficial bullsh!t, that trying to make a relationship work for them is almost impossible. Women waste their best years chasing worthless men... then as they approach the wall will start to focus on locking down a decent man, but by then she is an emotional sh!t show.

Social media clumps quality men in with worthless men in the same category. If you are a quality man... well you are called a narcissist because you are not twisting yourself into a knot trying hopelessly to make some chick happy. Women do not know how to deal with quality men.

Women no longer know how to have a good relationship with men: men no longer know how to act like men. It's stupid... but nothing anyone can do about this accept to just take care of yourself, do what is best for you and any kids you might have, and not worry about going after women. It doesn't mean you shouldn't try, but you MUST be willing to move on FAST when you are not getting what you need, and NOT let this get to you... never let chicks pull you off course... if they are not willing to follow and be happy doing this... dump her and never think about her again.
 

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Hookups are easy to come by for guys who know how to deal with women just because you haven't had one in nearly 4 years doesn't mean there are other guys who haven't. You keep basing your limited beliefs as a general experience. I can tell you from experience and other guys that are hooking up with a new girl every month heck some are hooking up with a new girl nearly every week
In that case, sounds like I'm missing out. What a shame I don't know how to deal with the ladies.

Saw your pic in another thread, your aesthetic isn’t geared towards hook ups.
You saw my outfit and chest/stomach.

You don't know what I look like facially. The general consensus of most online looks raters I've used is that I'm above average.

My profile picture on here shows my bicep. I have a decent amount of bicep for a man as skinny as me.
 

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Really nothing any man can do about this, but I understand the frustration. All you can do is be the best version of yourself possible, make an effort, and move on quickly when you aren't getting what you want.

Social media and dating apps have ruined human relationships and runs contrary to a normal working culture. Nothing we can do about that, pandora's box is open. No one is happy about this... as we are expected to function in an environment that runs contrary to human behavior. B!tching about this is pointless, but it does help to vent.

Most men today act like women... and it's making women crazy.

I'm in my late 50s now and what worked and works for me.... no longer works for younger men. My advice always is for men to take care of their health and abandon bad habits. Watch what you eat and put in your body... work out... be social... bust your @ss and women will find you. This sh!t doesn't work for younger men when it comes to getting quality women, but it is still the best advice. Sure... eventually women will come around, and sometime in your mid 30s, women their age will come around... but by then these women are so emotionally damaged because she spent her 20s bouncing from one dude to the next attracted to superficial bullsh!t, that trying to make a relationship work for them is almost impossible. Women waste their best years chasing worthless men... then as they approach the wall will start to focus on locking down a decent man, but by then she is an emotional sh!t show.

Social media clumps quality men in with worthless men in the same category. If you are a quality man... well you are called a narcissist because you are not twisting yourself into a knot trying hopelessly to make some chick happy. Women do not know how to deal with quality men.

Women no longer know how to have a good relationship with men: men no longer know how to act like men. It's stupid... but nothing anyone can do about this accept to just take care of yourself, do what is best for you and any kids you might have, and not worry about going after women. It doesn't mean you shouldn't try, but you MUST be willing to move on FAST when you are not getting what you need, and NOT let this get to you... never let chicks pull you off course... if they are not willing to follow and be happy doing this... dump her and never think about her again.
Workplace dating bans/stigma are another thing that runs contrary to human nature.

A man spends 40+ hours a week at work. When you subtract time for sleeping, getting ready for work, commuting, and evening relaxation, a man has little to no time for meeting a woman outside of work.

It's human nature a man will take a liking to certain female coworkers. In some cases, the feeling might even be mutual. Yet expressing interest in a female coworker is stigmatized at best (and could lead to a firing, possibly even lawsuit, at worst)

The fact what used to be one of the top methods to find a woman (work) is basically not an option anymore is one reason for the rise in sexlessness/datelessness among young men.
 

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In that case, sounds like I'm missing out. What a shame I don't know how to deal with the ladies.



You saw my outfit and chest/stomach.

You don't know what I look like facially. The general consensus of most online looks raters I've used is that I'm above average.

My profile picture on here shows my bicep. I have a decent amount of bicep for a man as skinny as me.
I’m sure you have a very handsome face bro, but as soon as she saw those jeans and that shirt and how poorly they fit your frame the answer was no.
 

Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.

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