Isn't just a shame when hot girls are fat?

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That is not fat lol..You want to see what fat is lol..:crackup:
 

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the pic from the original poster shows a girl who is not cute but who also isnt fat. His reply...what a waste. Waste of what? Humanity? She wasnt cute in the first place but you cant tell from the way she is sitting that she's some fat chick.

I rest my case on this :woo:
 

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Originally posted by SeldomSeen
by who's standard should she be 120lbs? YOurs? SOme magazine? American society?

Every guy should look like Brad Pitt too. I wonder how many guys on the forum look like Brad Pitt, have chiseled abs, well trimmed, nice tanned etc. I doubt many because they wouldnt be on this site talking about their problems finding women.
Yes. My standards.

re. Brad Pitt: you have no understanding of what women are attracted to, and trying to parallel what men find attractive into what women do is a beginner's mistake.

re. site: site is about improving oneself and being authentic and genuine.

re. you: you are either a chik or middle teen years. If the latter, you may learn. If the former, I'm sorry, very sorry.

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Originally posted by SeldomSeen
the pic from the original poster shows a girl who is not cute but who also isnt fat. His reply...what a waste. Waste of what? Humanity? She wasnt cute in the first place but you cant tell from the way she is sitting that she's some fat chick.

I rest my case on this :woo:
If the chick in the pic was skinny (should say normal sized but for the USA this chick is normal) then she would be much hotter. That is, on average, more guys would want to have s3x with her. Whether she is cute or not is not the point.
 

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Originally posted by stevera004
If the chick in the pic was skinny (should say normal sized but for the USA this chick is normal) then she would be much hotter. That is, on average, more guys would want to have s3x with her. Whether she is cute or not is not the point.
no she would be a skinny chick with no ass, no breast and an average face. Anorexic chicks are no sexier than fat chicks and most are unhealthy, smoke, drink and have bad habits. No thank you. GIve me an average built girl not some 5'7 109 lb girl who looks like she's on crack. J-LO gets the nod over Ally McBeal any day of the week. This is why so many women are depressed. They are told to lose 20 more lbs for movie roles when they already wiegh 120. I know because my cousin is an actress (not famous) and is well built and she was told to drop a few lbs for a photo shoot. Hell she's 5'7 or 5'8 135 what do these numb nut idiots expect.
 

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Originally posted by SeldomSeen
no she would be a skinny chick with no ass, no breast and an average face. Anorexic chicks are no sexier than fat chicks and most are unhealthy, smoke, drink and have bad habits. No thank you. GIve me an average built girl not some 5'7 109 lb girl who looks like she's on crack.
Straw man arguments.

But it's ironic that only in the fattest country on earth do people constantly talk about anorexia. Now why is that?
 

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Originally posted by Deus ex Pianoforte
Eh, that's faulty logic. First of all, society and celebrity magazines don't dictate attraction...biology does. Second, saying that every guy should look like Brad Pitt is like saying she should look like I dunno, Carmen Electra or some sh*t. All he's saying is that it's a shame that she's horribly out of shape, which indicates she doesn't take care of herself, nor make an effort to. And for the record, I have chiseled abs, am very clean-cut, and have a great tan. I also haven't had sex in almost a year. Looks for men ain't nearly as important as looks are for women.
I have no problem with people feeling that way but if a girl takes good care of herself then the guy should be every bit as in shape as her. If he doesnt then the pot is calling the kettle black. The smoker is caller the drinker a drunk. And unfortunately society, celebrities, magazines, and such do dictate what is attractive. If they didnt there would be no need for women to feel sad everytime they walk through the grocery aisle and see a woman on the front of Cosmo. It has a powerful influence on a persons self estee. Marilyn Monroe is considered a tad bit overweight by todays looney standards.
 

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tell me about it, there was this hot chick in my previous college, who i could tell wouldve been an easy 9 if she lost some weight. wasnt really fat, but more on the chubby side.

But even with her current weight she still had a great face.
 

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Re: fat chicks are such a shame

Originally posted by SeldomSeen
Marilyn Monroe is considered a tad bit overweight by todays looney standards.
Like shooting fish in a barrel:

http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/mmdress.htm

Marilyn Monroe vital stats
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Height: 5 feet, 5½ inches
Weight: 118-140 pounds
Bust: 35-37 inches
Waist: 22-23 inches
Hips: 35-36 inches
Bra size: 36D

Basically a size 4.

QED


Appendix
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This is good for the audio:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1385806

Cool for the CGI:

http://www.skinnykat.com/litter/archives/2004/01/what_size_was_m.html
 

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damn I didnt expect live action figures from the Sims. LOL But I'd do Marilyn any day. She was built. But again to each his own. I like women that are built like women and feel like women, not stick figures from a bad cartoon. Everyone has a preference. You also should understand that Im black and men of ethnicity have different standards when it comes to body types. It doesnt mean I like 5'6 200 lb women but I do like my women to look and feel like they have meat. I tend to fall for volleyball players type of physiques.


Elizabeth Hurley says that the screen legend was overweight, peaking at a dress size of 16. "I've always thought Marilyn Monroe looked fabulous, but I'd kill myself if I was that fat,''
 

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Originally posted by SeldomSeen
damn I didnt expect live action figures from the Sims. LOL But I'd do Marilyn any day. She was built. But again to each his own. I like women that are built like women and feel like women, not stick figures from a bad cartoon. Everyone has a preference. You also should understand that Im black and men of ethnicity have different standards when it comes to body types. It doesnt mean I like 5'6 200 lb women but I do like my women to look and feel like they have meat. I tend to fall for volleyball players type of physiques.

Elizabeth Hurley says that the screen legend was overweight, peaking at a dress size of 16. "I've always thought Marilyn Monroe looked fabulous, but I'd kill myself if I was that fat,''
Dress sizes of the 1950's have absolutely nothing to do with dress sizes today. Stores want women to feel good (and surprise but their stuff) so they inflate female dress sizes every year.

Also about the stick figures: no one disagrees with that. Women that are too skinny are a turn-off for guys too. An interesting historical fact: when Berlin was overrun by the Soviets in WWII, the women the Soviet soldiers were looking for were the plump ones, they considered the skinny ones ugly and too skinny. But the words plump and skinny are relative: you can imagine that after several years of war a plump women would have look a lot like today's skinny USA women.

Anyways, the vast majority of American women today are far too fat, thus making them not attractive. I have to vent, cause it is verboten to say this in public for some reason, but this forum is my free speech refuge.
 

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Originally posted by SeldomSeen
weight doesnt qualify you as to whether you are hot or not. I went out with a girl that was 5'9 175 lbs that would smoke most women. She was stacked. Its all a matter of taste. Imagine women going he's nice looking but he only has a 6 inch pe**s. Or he's cute but he only weighs 140 lbs. Imagine if they did that to every guy. See what I mean?
The truth of the matter is that we are talking about people (men included) that over indulge. They don't need to be rail thin but truly healthy.

Call me a snob (I always do) but I'm 5'11 and 170lbs (only 6% body fat). I lead an active life and adding extra weight would be detrimental to my sporting life. I'm not saying everyone has to be a sports enthusiast but come on, do you remember when a size 32 waist for men and a size 6 dress size for women was considered average? Add 10 to each of those numbers and now you have what's considered average nowadays... *sigh*

It's hard for me to fathom dating a woman shorter and heavier than me. To each his own though, I've dated a couple of attractive chubbies in my life, but I was a considered a 'nice guy' back then. I was all about her personality being more important.

It only worked for me for so long though. It's much easier to when you are pissed off at your girl to say to yourself "She pissed me off the other day, but d@mn doesn't her @ss look tight.." rather than "D@mn, I don't want to listen to her fat @ss b1tch again about women being objectified on television."
And I've actually asked women if they enjoy having men think that they are sexy, most of them say "yes." At least the thin ones do.

I hear what you're saying about women griping that a guy is 'too thin,' but look at the women who are griping most of the time. Understand it's nothing like a guy having a small penis (from what I hear ;) ). A guy is born that way, the percentage of people that are born obese is fractional. Obesity can be controlled, and I mean outside of the operating room.

But is it fair? No, it's life; again to each his own; everyone has their preference. But the fact is that living a balanced, healthy lifestyle doesn't truly have a down side. Overindulgence seldom has an upside.

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The funny thing about all this is that you seldom hear women complaining about Johnny Depp being too thin or Tom Cruise being too short. I guess its alright if a guy is unobtainable; but heaven forbid if the guy is one that she passes on the street every day. Maybe they know that he's unobtainable too but it is more believable is she says that he isn't HER type because (heaven forbid) he's too fit for her.

One last thing, I saw a news story about this woman tonight. She's 38 years old and has three children. I'm tired of women saying that age, marriage, children and work keeps them from living a healthy lifestyle.

Check out these pics...

Molly Shattuck
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Yesterday I turned on the T.V and the first thing that popped up was the Jerry Springer Show. There were two chicks fighting over a guy and one of the chicks ask the guy " How could you cheat on me with that fat b1tch" and the other girl (the fat b1tch) says "well he likes it because my breasts are big"! and she proceeds to flash the audience! THAT IS NASTY!!

WTF?! Just because a fat woman has big fat breasts doesn't make her attractive!! it shouldn't increase her beauty but for men whom sex is scarce, anything is better then nothing. That is why I see alot of fat women in bars because all they got to show is a little cleavage to some drunk/stoned guy and he will be all over that. Thus they don't even need to lose the weight to get some.

Why are all the AFC's going wild over a fat girl just because she has huge breasts???!!! go suck on a cow if you want a big tit!

Healthy breasts should be a reasonable size and shape( a handful is enough - I got big hands :)) and proporational to the body and not a big fat lump that is dangling over a fat stomach almost reaching the floor.
 

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Originally posted by HalfAddict
I like em thick..

I don't like that strung out heroin addict look thats so popularized.
Thick (in the day) was a woman who looked like Jennifer Lopez, maybe Janet Jackson. Nowadays, women who call themselves 'thick' are usually holsteins. In the day a thick woman's waist was smaller than both her hips and chest; now it's the other way around.
 

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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Thick (in the day) was a woman who looked like Jennifer Lopez, maybe Janet Jackson. Nowadays, women who call themselves 'thick' are usually holsteins. In the day a thick woman's waist was smaller than both her hips and chest; now it's the other way around.
Exactly. And why do men have this preference, fertility my brothers, fertility:

http://boren.nu/archives/2003/11/01/evolutionary-psychology-waist-to-hip-ratio/

Waist-to-hip ratios hold up in different cultures. Singh has shown that there is a preference among men for a certain waist-to-hip ratio in females. A 70% waist-to-hip ratio indicates, apparently, health and fertility in the woman, and is the male ideal. This holds up across different cultures, suggesting, like the Buss (1989) sex differences in mate preferences, that it is a universal reality. Singh has pointed out that even women who look very different may have similar wait-to-hip ratios. For example, he says that the famous actress Marilyn Monroe and the current skinny model Kate Moss both have the ideal waist-to-hip ratio.
 

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Originally posted by stevera004
Exactly. And why do men have this preference, fertility my brothers, fertility:

http://boren.nu/archives/2003/11/01/evolutionary-psychology-waist-to-hip-ratio/

Waist-to-hip ratios hold up in different cultures. Singh has shown that there is a preference among men for a certain waist-to-hip ratio in females. A 70% waist-to-hip ratio indicates, apparently, health and fertility in the woman, and is the male ideal. This holds up across different cultures, suggesting, like the Buss (1989) sex differences in mate preferences, that it is a universal reality. Singh has pointed out that even women who look very different may have similar wait-to-hip ratios. For example, he says that the famous actress Marilyn Monroe and the current skinny model Kate Moss both have the ideal waist-to-hip ratio.
Also don't forget that there is a waist-to-hip-to breasts ratios. That means women with small hips and big breasts is the greatest indicator for men that the woman is healthy and in her greatest sexaul peak.

Pam Anderson (in her younger days) embodied those qualities, that is why she was the most popular cover girl on playboy ever.

http://cache.eonline.com/On/Holly/Shows/Anderson/Gallery/Images/anderson.pam.gal1.010904.jpg

http://images.search.yahoo.com/sear...am+anderson&type=jpeg&no=49&tt=3,877&ei=UTF-8
 
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