Is "you're too short" an EXCUSE?

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I'm not a very tall guy. At 5'7," I've experienced plenty of people commenting about me height. Many of the girls who turn me down cite my height in their rejection.

But is it all an excuse? By this, do they mention the height to mask the real reason they turn someone down? I know a few guys my height or shorter who, while they currently have gf's, were not hit with the "height" line of rejection prior to them finding a girl.

I'm more physically built than my friends who are all taller than I am, so the "protection" a girl feels should be there with me. But something about my height in particular turns them off - or is that simply a mask for whatever the real reason is?
 

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More of a sh*t test than anything. I can confidently say...you are about... '2 inches or so taller than me ;).

The key is to show no signs of being flustered whatsoever. Any sign of incongruence will blow your cover. Whatever it takes to get you to that certain state of mind, do it.

Girl: Why are you so confident?
Me: Because of my face?
Girl: Good face but... [pats the space in front of me downwards] kind of short.
Me: [make the same hand motion as her and look upwards to ponder for a second or two. Slowly turn your head from upwards to glance straight back at her with piercing eyes and tilt your head slowly to the side using a surprised look]. I suppose you're right.

Make sure to smirk a little bit. From this point on, change the subject ASAP and continue your game as usual.
 

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A) short people have ego that leads them to be succesful (due to insecurity). You are 5.7, you taller than Kevin Hart, Tom Cruise etc...

B) it's a ****test they use on a visible touchy subject. If you overcome with confidence, she will date/sleep with you

C) your friends who are short have girlfriend. They all likely got the same ****test from 100women before the gf. I bet some of the gf also ****ested them.

Focus on you and your response
 

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Women, at their core, like to feel differentiated as feminine, when with a man. Just standing and interacting with a taller man, can amplify a woman's feeling of femininity. The difference in size between them amplifies her awareness of her femininity and of his masculinity. If he is a well built man, on top of being tall, her sense of femininity is amplified even more. It is automatic. It is beyond thought.

The size difference between them automatically and without words communicates to her, his inherent capacity for dominance, especially with her, and, an always noticed and appreciated, potential capacity to protect her as well. These awarenesses further amplify the differences in their masculine and feminine essences and the polarity between those qualities. That then raises her attraction to him even more, and likely his to her.


I'd venture to say that it can even give a woman a bit of an internal rush/high. All this happens without any effort on her part. She gets the amplified feeling, no matter what she is wearing or how she looks in the interaction. Of course, the better she feels she looks, and the more attention he gives her, the more that feminine feeling is amplified within her. She gains all these good feelings just because he is noticeably taller and/or well-built.


Shorter men need to know, as do tall men, than a man's height is not the primary deciding factor for a woman's attraction to a man. It is one of many. Men that are not so tall need to understand they can still gain a woman's absolute attraction. IMHO, The presence a man holds, trumps all in gaining or losing a woman's attraction. A tall well-built man can radiate the presence of weakness, and a very short man can radiate certainty and confidence, such that in both cases, the presence they hold will automatically trump their physical size, in terms of gaining or losing a woman's attraction.


Tall men don't necessarily get a free pass. Men that are not so tall, can trump their decreased height, with amazing presence. Women are attracted, inspired and imprinted by the presence a man holds, more than anything. Amazing presence by itself can inspire greater feelings, in a woman, than a man's height, build, and even looks, ever could on their own.

For men that are not particularly tall, take advantage of the fact that there are a fair percentage of even shorter women to engage. I, myself, am just 5' 1". My eyes will always be looking up, to see and connect with the man I am in front of.
 
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I'm not a very tall guy. At 5'7," I've experienced plenty of people commenting about me height. Many of the girls who turn me down cite my height in their rejection.

But is it all an excuse? By this, do they mention the height to mask the real reason they turn someone down? I know a few guys my height or shorter who, while they currently have gf's, were not hit with the "height" line of rejection prior to them finding a girl.

I'm more physically built than my friends who are all taller than I am, so the "protection" a girl feels should be there with me. But something about my height in particular turns them off - or is that simply a mask for whatever the real reason is?
Hi LadyKiller

I'm not a very tall guy myself and yet it doesn't matter when you show "your best side" and stay grounded with women.
Maybe something about you is off and the rejections is the result of that, so the easiest way for the girls is to mention that - to see how you react and if you can keep moving forward in the conversation without getting affected by the comment.

hope it helps!

gonewiththefire
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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It's funny when you think about it. Women constantly harp about men "body shaming" women due to their weight. However, women are the biggest "body shamers". Turning someone down for something that is largely out of the person's control shows how shallow most women are.

Weight can be controlled. Height can't.
 

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As others mentioned, it's just a **** test. She's testing to see your strength. All guys get **** tested in one form or another, and your height is something easily visible so it is going to get tested a lot.

You just need to show that it doesn't bother you that you're not tall. Tease her, make a joke, or ignore the test completely as a last resort. Do not make self-depracating humor or try to rationalize why you make up for it in other areas unless she challenges you specifically.

If she says that she doesn't date shorter guys respond as if you assume she's self-conscious about her height. Laugh and tell her its ok, you find tall women sexy and you won't tease her about it too much.

Or if she challenges you and says something like "I dont date short guys they're horrible kissers" then you can escalate with something like "well if you think you can teach me a thing or two why don't you come over here and prove it".
 

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Short guys have an advantage in a sense. They can work out and get super buff without much effort.

I am 6'1 and I work out like crazy yet I'm still a stick. I'd rather be 5'9 and buff. Being "tall" doesn't always mean that much id say it's more about muscle and bf %.
 

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This is one of those personal preference things that can be tough to overcome. I'm personally 5'6" and in 3 or 4 inch heels closer to 5' 10".

I strongly prefer men who are taller than I am. I can feel somewhat exposed and awkward if I am taller than the man. Add that to my outgoing personality and I might sometimes subtly feel I overpower the man as an aggregate and I don't like that feeling. I want to feel feminine with a man.

As I think about it I think it comes subconsciously as LYD stated in her post above. My Dad is 6'4" and physically imposing, so that was my imprint growing up.

The shortest man I dated is about 5'7". He had presence, confidence, intelligence, sex appeal & ambition when we were dating that made me unconcerned about his stature. He has an encompassing personality and wit that he is simply him, take him or leave him.

He is the sum of his attributes and owns them all fully and unabashedly. I've know him now some 25 years and have watched him become a success professionally & socially over the years. He has such a sense of humor. He'll say yep, I'm short...but I've still got all my hair (which at nearly 50 is pretty cool), and most of my money (he is twice divorced) and he grins his infectious grin...he is as self assured as they come.

So rock who you are. There are male models on here who find they have challenges too.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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Some girls genuinely aren't attracted to shorter men. I'm 5'5 and the only issue I've ever had with my height is when the womans taller. At least that's yhe only time they've said something.
 

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I am 5'6 and I usually say something like I'll grow 7 inches if you play your cards right and that usually gets a laugh
 

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It's funny when you think about it. Women constantly harp about men "body shaming" women due to their weight. However, women are the biggest "body shamers". Turning someone down for something that is largely out of the person's control shows how shallow most women are.

Weight can be controlled. Height can't.
I did come across a comment once that said double standards are to be found in life. Complaining about this sort of thing is just a waste of energy to me now.
It only concerns us, sure, because we crave copping that feel.

Back in 2013 I complained to my parents about this Diet Coke ad that was running. Of course I had to be the one to stand down instead of punching someone. We are a democratic, if unjust, society after all. :p
 

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The shortest man I dated is about 5'7".
It's notable that he was still taller than you.

Women want the tall guys because they feel safe around them. To some extent, the shorter the woman, the more they need a tall guy to protect them and reach things on higher shelves, etc. I've seen some very short women who still went after the tall guys.
 

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I'm 5'7.

You have to not give a **** about what people think of your height. Height is one of those aura things people can just pick up on. If you can survive as a short man and still work a room, your value goes through the roof. People gravitate towards a man who's presence is larger than his stature.

A good think for you to do is make sure you work out. Build some muscle and lean out the waistline. Body shape is actually more important than your size. An athletic, V-shaped body conveys dominance.
 

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Thanks for the good advice. It's actually girls who are shorter than I who bring up my height - "I'm 5'4" but like to wear 4" heels," etc. I'm in good shape for my size - broad shoulders, developed arms, abs, but when it comes to me, that all seems to come second.

For the most part, I'm a confident guy. But there's only so much of hearing one thing and only one thing that somebody can take from girls and guys alike. And I'm not stopping to their level and critiquing people on things like their weight or lack of smarts.
 

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Yeah to be honest if you are under say 5'9" you are going to be at a disadvantage in that area.

If you are 5'10"+ and you are getting girls who are 5'5"- are saying you are too short its a bs excuse. You can use the brad Pitt test here as he's 5'11 and obviously wouldn't get rejected for height reasons.

But yeah if you drop below 5'9" you are under average and a decent amount of girls want a guy who is reasonable sized.

Of course not every woman cares that much though so don't let it become an excuse, I know plenty of short guys who do OK.

I'm 6'0" and tbh I'm not even attracted to women over 5'8" usually as they start to not have the best feminine shape after that IMO.
 

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Yeah to be honest if you are under say 5'9" you are going to be at a disadvantage in that area.

If you are 5'10"+ and you are getting girls who are 5'5"- are saying you are too short its a bs excuse. You can use the brad Pitt test here as he's 5'11 and obviously wouldn't get rejected for height reasons.

But yeah if you drop below 5'9" you are under average and a decent amount of girls want a guy who is reasonable sized.

Of course not every woman cares that much though so don't let it become an excuse, I know plenty of short guys who do OK.

I'm 6'0" and tbh I'm not even attracted to women over 5'8" usually as they start to not have the best feminine shape after that IMO.
LOL. If you are "short", you better be built. My uncle is 5'4", has a nice codpiece size, and a lot of confidence, he loves banging tall females. Sort of a local legend like Ron Jeremy. Being short can have it's draw backs, but you cannot let it affect you. Strong game and you will be fine like the other "short" guys pulling females.

Mandingo the porn star is like 5'5 or 5'6".
 

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To be fair, yes, being short hurts your chances with women. But that is only one area you are lacking in, and you may be stronger in other areas. E.g nice body, financially well off, funny, confident.

You can improve yourself in the areas that can be changed, like confidence for example. Don't bother trying to change your height because that's impossible without surgery. The most you can do is wear shoes with a bit of a heel to give you an extra inch or two.

The trick is to find the women WHO WILL date shorter guys. We all have obstacles we need to overcome, this is yours. Those guys who are shorter than you that have girlfriends overcame the same obstacle you have, I'm sure you can too.

By the way, 5 ft 7 is not even that short at all.
 

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