Is Waitress/Bar Work A Red Flag?

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I'm not being nasty. I am simply challenging your thought on, insecurity is the driving force for her to cheat.

Well if that is genuinely the case.. then why don't you allow your girl to do whatever she wants on Social Media and not worry about it? After all it's Your Worrying that will drive her to cheating according to your logic?

I'm not being nasty, just pointing out the holes in your logic.
Im not asking her to delete her social media. That’s John Wayne Gacey level insanity.
 

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What's your opinion on the following professions?

Would you consider this type of profession compatible for a long term relationship with a girl, or is it too risky?

01. Waitress Work
02. Bar Work
03. Travel/Air Hostess
Recreational use only
 

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Again, I totally agree. Soulforge specifically mentioned a serious relationship, starting a family, etc.
Soulforge wants to chain a blindfolded chick to a post in his basement, feed her oatmeal, and have her tell him all day that he’s Adonis.
 

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Recreational use only until she quits and gets something more behind the desk.
Waitresses and bartenders get hit on a lot. They understand the connection between sex, money, and power. In that world there is only one sex, religion, color or creed that matters, and it is green. They also tend to have a large social media network presence which is detrimental for us goodfellas.
Service industry workers are experts at flirting to get what they want, and they have a lot of opportunity for bangs. Service industry 'careers' are reserved for cute to hot chicks who don't want to work all that much, and can survive off taking money from guys they flirt with.

I worked in the f&b hospitality restaurant industry for over a decade and the slut/trashy/flirty female coworker radar pinged more times than not.
 
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Actually no.. this just exposed you as a man who is SUPER INSECURE.. A tiny little bit of criticism and Your willing to exposed and rat out fellow SS members.

This only magnifies and exposes what an insecure person you are and how my comments hurt your feelings.

Again.. If insecurity is the driver to her cheating.. Why are you making threads and crying about your girls activity on Instagram?

This completely reaks of insecurity?
Okay, well at the ripe old age of 39 with three kids in tow, I’m sure I am still pulling much hotter ass than you are and holding much tighter frame. If you can’t take the heat starting a thread, don’t start threads lol
 

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Okay, well at the ripe old age of 39 with three kids in tow, I’m sure I am still pulling much hotter ass than you are and holding much tighter frame. If you can’t take the heat starting a thread, don’t start threads lol

You're getting screwed over right now, by a girl who is running rings around you. She isn't under your frame dude.

You had super weak boundaries and she sees how weak you are.

Dude I have never spent more then 10 - 15 minutes on a phone call with a chick.

Godam is her Vagina that special, that you spent hours and hours on a phone call with her lol super weak.

I actually agree with you.. Insecurity is what will drive her to drop you, and that's your frame with her right now.. Insecure
 

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Recreational use only until she quits and gets something more behind the desk.
Waitresses and bartenders get hit on a lot. They understand the connection between sex, money, and power. In that world there is only one sex, religion, color or creed that matters, and it is green. They also tend to have a large social media network presence which is detrimental for us goodfellas.
Service industry workers are experts at flirting to get what they want, and they have a lot of opportunity for bangs. Service industry 'careers' are reserved for cute to hot chicks who don't want to work all that much, and can survive off taking money from guys they flirt with.
I worked in the f&b hospitality restaurant industry for over a decade and the slut/trashy women radar pinged more times than not.
Your spot on bro.. My gut feeling is, girls who work in these industries or have a desire to work in these industries are not LTR material.

A man who wants to build his kingdom, does not want to be attached to this type of LIABILITY in the long run.
 

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You're getting screwed over right now, by a girl who is running rings around you. She isn't under your frame dude.

You had super weak boundaries and she sees how weak you are.

Dude I have never spent more then 10 - 15 minutes on a phone call with a chick.

Godam is her Vagina that special, that you spent hours and hours on a phone call with her lol super weak.

I actually agree with you.. Insecurity is what will drive her to drop you, and that's your frame with her right now.. Insecure
Wake up sir, the entire forum is insecure. Is there a reason to be online posting for advice on women if you have frame and innate confidence? lol. Be a bro, go take a walk around the block, don’t come in here acting like you’re hugh Hefner when you’re much likely more like Razor.
 

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What's your opinion on the following professions?

Would you consider this type of profession compatible for a long term relationship with a girl, or is it too risky?

01. Waitress Work
02. Bar Work
03. Travel/Air Hostess
if you are looking to settle down and start a family then you are totally correct, these are not the types of women to be seriously considering. You have to seriously ask yourself what it is you are looking for and implement a plan in order to get it. If your goal was just for something casual, it doesn't matter lol. However, given your goals it would make absolutely no sense to try to "wife up" a bartender or flight attendant. A server I don't see as a red flag IF she is not working at some breastaurant like @SW15 has mentioned.
the issue with being a flight attendant is that she will always be gone for work. IF I wanted a relationship, let alone a family, a job like this is a major obstacle. How do you expect to seriously raise a family if your wife is going all the damn time lol? What's the point of even being in a serious relationship if she is always gone lol? I'd rather have a gf that I can have sex or spend time with regularly than say maybe once per week or less. I also could see where she is actually home but always tired or fatigued and never wants to do anything, I think it would get old fast. I'm not even elaborating on having a family, you'd basically be doing all the work and would probably get burnt out.
The typical Monday-Friday day shift working white collar and blue collar male is going to have a difficult time dating any woman in any of these professions. Their schedules don't align a lot of the times. Waitresses and bartenders are working nights and weekends. That's the time in which a day shift worker is going to want to be spending time with a girlfriend. It's possible to have a casual sex time situationship with women in any of these professions with enough patience and a good abundance mindset.

The typical waitress (breastaurant excluded) is probably the most dateable of the 3. She might even have some feminine attributes as a not over educated careerist woman. If a man can get past the scheduling issues, then he has the potential for a decent girlfriend. A Hooters or Twin Peaks type breastaurant waitress is going to get hit on all the time and a man is also going to have to be ok with her showing off her cleavage/butt for attention. There are even breastaurants that bikini bars where women serve/bartend wearing G strings and you can fully see their buttcheeks. That's showing off even more than Hooters or Twin Peaks. Casual sex with a breastaurant worker or bikini barista might be fun and a thrill. The shelf life of that arrangement is questionable.

Regular bartenders are often similar to breastaurant workers. Many female bartenders dress sexy. A female bartender works late nights and might work at a nightlife venue surrounded by Chads. In addition to the Chad patrons, you'd also be competing with the bouncers who are big, muscular guys for her. That's tough competition. Some guys can handle it, others would not able to handle it. A bartender in a mediocre bar or a subpar dive bar may see less Chads, but her overall environment might not be good, in addition to the late nights and presence alcohol and possibly drugs.

Flight attendants are probably the most difficult because of the heavy travel schedule. Waitress and bartenders typically don't travel a lot, so they are at least present in the same city as a guy most of the time. The travel schedule doesn't permit much in the way of normalcy. The best fit partners for flight attendants are pilots.
 

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I totally agree, but the issue with being a flight attendant is that she will always be gone for work. IF I wanted a relationship, let alone a family, a job like this is a major obstacle. How do you expect to seriously raise a family if your wife is going all the damn time lol? What's the point of even being in a serious relationship if she is always gone lol? I'd rather have a gf that I can have sex or spend time with regularly than say maybe once per week or less. I also could see where she is actually home but always tired or fatigued and never wants to do anything, I think it would get old fast. I'm not even elaborating on having a family, you'd basically be doing all the work and would probably get burnt out.

@soulforge See the comment I made above.
Yeh this is facts.. Any job that requires her to be traveling, away from home, sleeping in different hotels etc.. It's a major problem.
 

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Every man is insecure to some degree if you are planning to start a family with a girl and invest your future, and finances into her.

No man is willing to make a MAJOR investment into something that carries a high risk return. This isn't insecurity, it's just basic economics and common sense
What I'm saying is that if your the type of guy that needs to know where his girl is at all times. Needs his girl to respond promptly/loses his mind if she goes 7+ hours without responding and then starts thinking she's out doing hoe sh1t then they are not the type of girl for you. She won't cheat unless u give her a reason to cheat. Insecure type behavior is one of the leading causes of them actually going behind your back and doing red flag sh1t
 

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Wake up sir, the entire forum is insecure. Is there a reason to be online posting for advice on women if you have frame and innate confidence? lol. Be a bro, go take a walk around the block, don’t come in here acting like you’re hugh Hefner when you’re much likely more like Razor.
Dude you're like a whiny little female who can't take a tiny bit of criticism.

You stated, in YOUR OWN words.. Insecurity is the driving force that will push her to cheat... This is your own words.

I simply stated a fact.. If what you stated is the facts, then the fact that you're making threads about your girls activities on Social media also can be perceived as insecure.

So essentially your making statements, and not applying the logic of your statements to yourself.

I wasn't attacking you.. I was simply stating a falisy in your point.

How did you react to my tiny little crictism?

Your reacted with posting private conversations on here
.. You do realise you exposed yourself as an untrustworthy rat?

A man that has zero honour, is a dirty rat.

makes sense why your girl is treating you like a beta chump right now.

maybe you can fix things with her, with another 5 hours phone conversation lol
 

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What I'm saying is that if your the type of guy that needs to know where his girl is at all times. Needs his girl to respond promptly/loses his mind if she goes 7+ hours without responding and then starts thinking she's out doing hoe sh1t then they are not the type of girl for you. She won't cheat unless u give her a reason to cheat. Insecure type behavior is one of the leading causes of them actually going behind your back and doing red flag sh1t
I get you and understand your point.. However this would apply under normal circumstances.

Let's say your girl has a normal job and you don't hear from her in 6 hours, well there is no reason to lose your shvt over that..

However my point is this.. Certain professions come with a risk factor..

Bar Work, waitress, air hostess, I believe are proffesions that are not ideal, if you want to LTR a girl or marry her.

It's not about how long she took to text back.. it's about DO I REALLY WANT TO INVEST MY LIFE, FINANCES in a girl who is working in a career that comes with risk.
 

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Dude you're like a whiny little female who can't take a tiny bit of criticism.

You stated, in YOUR OWN words.. Insecurity is the driving force that will push her to cheat... This is your own words.

I simply stated a fact.. If what you stated is the facts, then the fact that you're making threads about your girls activities on Social media also can be perceived as insecure.

So essentially your making statements, and not applying the logic of your statements to yourself.

I wasn't attacking you.. I was simply stating a falisy in your point.

How did you react to my tiny little crictism?

Your reacted with posting private conversations on here
.. You do realise you exposed yourself as an untrustworthy rat?

A man that has zero honour, is a dirty rat.

makes sense why your girl is treating you like a beta chump right now.

maybe you can fix things with her, with another 5 hours phone conversation lol
Look how personal you get when you’re hurt lol. It’s the Internet dude don’t care about what you or anyone else thinks… assuming you won’t be on my thread moving forward lol
 

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Look how personal you get when you’re hurt lol. It’s the Internet dude don’t care about what you or anyone else thinks… assuming you won’t be on my thread moving forward lol
I'm not getting personal. You expose private conversations publicly, over something minor.

Any man, and every man on SS understands, that this is RAT behaviour.

This clearly exposes that you are not a person of credibility and honour.

Exactly why you're girl is currently running rings around you, she sees the flaws in your character & and how impulsive you are over some minor things
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I thinks it's always on a case by case basis, but the truth is more women who are the types you wouldn't want to be in an LTR with work in these industries.

There are some good ones to be fair, but it's dominated by women who are plate material at best or FWBs.
 
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