Is Waitress/Bar Work A Red Flag?

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What's your opinion on the following professions?

Would you consider this type of profession compatible for a long term relationship with a girl, or is it too risky?

01. Waitress Work
02. Bar Work
03. Travel/Air Hostess
 
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All I know about 3 is that they have apartments called crash pads that they share with other stewardesses, and I know this because I was fresh out of college banging a 30 year old California woman who had a share in newark Nj. She also bartended which is actually how I met her haha
 

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All I know about 3 is that they have apartments called crash pads that they share with other stewardesses, and I know this because I was fresh out of college banging a 30 year old California woman who had a share in newark Nj. She also bartended which is actually how I met her haha
So definitely a red flag lol
 

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So definitely a red flag lol
Depends what you consider a flag. She was dtf for sure. Would she have been a loyal girl to me, probably? Was I going to get serious with someone 7 years older than me when I was 23, no. Definitely checked a box for me though, banging an airline stewardess
 

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I don't think there is necessarily a "red flag" associated with these jobs, it's not like she is a stripper or prostitute lol, but there are some things to consider.

For all three jobs, there is the element that she will be hit on a lot and readily acquire male attention, especially if she is attractive. This isn't really a red flag but something to consider. I'd especially say this is the case if she was working at some place like Hooters or working at a bar/club where the women dress in skimpy attire, which is very common for a lot of popular nightlife venues.

As for the flight attendant, there's definitely the element where she will be travelling a lot and in all sorts of different cities on a regular basis. She is going to have access to all sorts of varieties of men rather readily, all she needs to do is go on tinder or sit at a bar and she'll be able to find a guy to sleep with for the night. The particular issue I would see with a job like this would honestly be the fact that she is always away for work. IF you are looking for a relationship, this would definitely get in the way potentially.

As for the bartenders. One thing that I will add is that I would find it a bit strange if a woman were to do this if she was closing in on 30 or over it. At the right venue, female bartenders can make a lot of money. However, as a man that doesn't really drink or party I would just assume that we wouldn't have much in common, as she is potentially a "party girl".
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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Depends what you consider a flag. She was dtf for sure. Would she have been a loyal girl to me, probably? Was I going to get serious with someone 7 years older than me when I was 23, no. Definitely checked a box for me though, banging an airline stewardess
I mean from the long term relationship perspective.

Would you feel comfortable, committing to, & marrying, having a child with a female who works as a bar girl.. a waitress.. or an air hostess/travel hostess, where her job requires for her to travel, be away from home, stop in hotels, away from you.

Are you willing to risk ALL and put everything on the line for girls in this profession?
 

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I mean from the long term relationship perspective.

Would you feel comfortable, committing to, & marrying, having a child with a female who works as a bar girl.. a waitress.. or an air hostess/travel hostess, where her job requires for her to travel, be away from home, stop in hotels, away from you.

Are you willing to risk ALL and put everything on the line for girls in this profession?
If I trusted her why wouldn’t I. My gf is a teacher and has the sex drive of a puma. Don’t judge a book by its cover.
 

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I don't think there is necessarily a "red flag" associated with these jobs, it's not like she is a stripper or prostitute lol, but there are some things to consider.

For all three jobs, there is the element that she will be hit on a lot and readily acquire male attention, especially if she is attractive. This isn't really a red flag but something to consider. I'd especially say this is the case if she was working at some place like Hooters or working at a bar/club where the women dress in skimpy attire, which is very common for a lot of popular nightlife venues.

As for the flight attendant, there's definitely the element where she will be travelling a lot and in all sorts of different cities on a regular basis. She is going to have access to all sorts of varieties of men rather readily, all she needs to do is go on tinder or sit at a bar and she'll be able to find a guy to sleep with for the night. The particular issue I would see with a job like this would honestly be the fact that she is always away for work. IF you are looking for a relationship, this would definitely get in the way potentially.

As for the bartenders. One thing that I will add is that I would find it a bit strange if a woman were to do this if she was closing in on 30 or over it. At the right venue, female bartenders can make a lot of money. However, as a man that doesn't really drink or party I would just assume that we wouldn't have much in common, as she is potentially a "party girl".
So pretty much all these professions carry big risks.. and high probability of cheating and compatibility issues, especially if you as a man are looking to settle down and start a family.

You pretty much confirmed they are all red flags lol
 

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So pretty much all these professions carry big risks.. and high probability of cheating and compatibility issues, especially if you as a man are looking to settle down and start a family.

You pretty much confirmed they are all red flags lol
The biggest driver of cheating is expressed insecurity.
 

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If I trusted her why wouldn’t I
Why would you trust her? Do you trust female nature by default?

Women are followers & gullible creatures. You're really going to trust your chick around horny drunk men, night after night, hitting on her.. offering her a better lifestyle than what you can provide?
 

Well I'm here to tell you there is such a magic wand. Something that will make you almost completely irresistible to any woman you "point it" at. Something guaranteed to fill your life with love, romance, and excitement.

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Why would you trust her? Do you trust female nature by default?

Women are followers & gullible creatures. You're really going to trust your chick around horny drunk men, night after night, hitting on her.. offering her a better lifestyle than what you can provide?
If I can’t trust her then isn’t it a self fulfilling prophesy that she is going to stray? Which comes first?
 

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So pretty much all these professions carry big risks.. and high probability of cheating and compatibility issues, especially if you as a man are looking to settle down and start a family.

You pretty much confirmed they are all red flags lol
Honestly, if you are looking to settle down and start a family then you are totally correct, these are not the types of women to be seriously considering. You have to seriously ask yourself what it is you are looking for and implement a plan in order to get it. If your goal was just for something casual, it doesn't matter lol. However, given your goals it would make absolutely no sense to try to "wife up" a bartender or flight attendant. A server I don't see as a red flag IF she is not working at some breastaurant like @SW15 has mentioned.
 

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The biggest driver of cheating is expressed insecurity.
That is not true. The biggest driver of cheating is situations, opportunities, environment and the influences around your woman.

If insecurity expressed by the man was the biggest driver of cheating, then why the heck are you making lengthy posts about your current girls Social Media activities?

Why not just let her do whatever the hell she wants on her social media. Your making threads about it, which REAKS of insecurity.
 

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Honestly, if you are looking to settle down and start a family then you are totally correct, these are not the types of women to be seriously considering. You have to seriously ask yourself what it is you are looking for and implement a plan in order to get it. If your goal was just for something casual, it doesn't matter lol. However, given your goals it would make absolutely no sense to try to "wife up" a bartender or flight attendant. A server I don't see as a red flag IF she is not working at some breastaurant like @SW15 has mentioned.
The only thing you need in a relationship is someone who doesn’t give you a reason to distrust and you simply need to offer the same. If she’s a stripper obviously not. If she’s a stewardess who for the most part is passing coffee, garbage bags and airline pillows I don’t see what the harm is.
 

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That is not true. The biggest driver of cheating is situations, opportunities, environment and the influences around your woman.

If insecurity expressed by the man was the biggest driver of cheating, then why the heck are you making lengthy posts about your current girls Social Media activities?

Why not just let her do whatever the hell she wants on her social media. Your making threads about it, which REAKS of insecurity.
I’m just telling you - if you’re worried about your girl traveling abroad and being an airline stewardess, don’t catch feelings for an airline stewardess. No need to get personal and nasty. If I want to go back to banging mid 20’s women I can and will. I am not sure you can say the same.
 

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They aren't for you if your the insecure type
Every man is insecure to some degree if you are planning to start a family with a girl and invest your future, and finances into her.

No man is willing to make a MAJOR investment into something that carries a high risk return. This isn't insecurity, it's just basic economics and common sense.
 

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The only thing you need in a relationship is someone who doesn’t give you a reason to distrust and you simply need to offer the same. If she’s a stripper obviously not. If she’s a stewardess who for the most part is passing coffee, garbage bags and airline pillows I don’t see what the harm is.
I totally agree, but the issue with being a flight attendant is that she will always be gone for work. IF I wanted a relationship, let alone a family, a job like this is a major obstacle. How do you expect to seriously raise a family if your wife is going all the damn time lol? What's the point of even being in a serious relationship if she is always gone lol? I'd rather have a gf that I can have sex or spend time with regularly than say maybe once per week or less. I also could see where she is actually home but always tired or fatigued and never wants to do anything, I think it would get old fast. I'm not even elaborating on having a family, you'd basically be doing all the work and would probably get burnt out.

@soulforge See the comment I made above.
 

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I totally agree, but the issue with being a flight attendant is that she will always be gone for work. IF I wanted a relationship, let alone a family, a job like this is a major obstacle. How do you expect to seriously raise a family if your wife is going all the damn time lol? What's the point of even being in a serious relationship if she is always gone lol? I'd rather have a gf that I can have sex or spend time with regularly than say maybe once per week or less. I also could see where she is actually home but always tired or fatigued and never wants to do anything, I think it would get old fast. I'm not even elaborating on having a family, you'd basically be doing all the work and would probably get burnt out.

@soulforge See the comment I made above.
Depends what you want in the relationship right? Not everyone wants kids, some people live well on the distance.
 

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I’m just telling you - if you’re worried about your girl traveling abroad and being an airline stewardess, don’t catch feelings for an airline stewardess. No need to get personal and nasty. If I want to go back to banging mid 20’s women I can and will. I am not sure you can say the same.
I'm not being nasty. I am simply challenging your thought on, insecurity is the driving force for her to cheat.

Well if that is genuinely the case.. then why don't you allow your girl to do whatever she wants on Social Media and not worry about it? After all it's Your Worrying that will drive her to cheating according to your logic?

I'm not being nasty, just pointing out the holes in your logic.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

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