Is this why there are so many nice guys?

[VikingKing]

1. They don’t embrace their masculinity.

The book I mentioned lists several reasons as to why men of this generation have become nice guys. One reason that really struck me was radical feminism. Glover stated that radical feminism led to a social climate that was extremely hostile toward men.

“All men are pigs.”
“Men are the cause of all the problems in the world.”
“Men are rapists.”
“All men are good for nothing animals who treat women like pieces of meat.”

Therefore, boys concluded that women did not like men, so they strive to hide their masculinity. After all, men were pigs right? And women don’t like that right? So don’t be a man, and you won’t be a pig and women will like that right? Twisted reasoning indeed.

http://briankim.net/articles/why-nice-guys-cant-get-girls/


Seriously. I hope feminists burn.

I just find it hard to believe that any real dj, alpha, whatever you want to call it, would think feminism is ok at all. Even if you managed to not become a nice guy, why do you think the feminist movement is acceptable when it results in most men hating being men?

Remember if your a man you are a potential rapist, abuser, child molester.

Feminism = masculinity is bad, me are bad and the source of all problems in the world especially womens problems.

So tell me. Why is feminism ok or beneficial for society?

(jurry, gayland, backbreaker, and who ever else likes to defend feminism and womens "equal" rights.)

 

[Dhoulmagus]

Also the princess syndrome. I grew up thinking that and that women were all innocent angels.

 

[jurry]

You're talking about one facet of feminism. Just as there is a radical edge of the manosphere (as I discussed in prior posts) there is an equally insane side of feminism.

When you have two sides to anything there are going to be extremes, and consensus is generally found in the middle. If you consider where women were 100 or even 50 years ago - basically second class citizens with no rights - then I dont know how you can honestly ask why feminism and the womens movement is "ok" or "beneficial".

The people who would be threatened by the "rise of women" are the ones who fear women and can only control them through suppression and exploitation. A true DJ should have nothing to worry about, and would welcome women doing more work.

 

[Epimanes]

Too many nice guys because dads don't stay home with their wife and kids..Work... War... Divorce (depending on the era).. And because the school system is jammed with female authority figures. This trains little boys to be good boys for the authoritive women in their lives.

Little children often feel that the tension in their lives are caused by them (ego centric views cause this) and so if they aim to please everyone they may get their needs met.. Or not. So they keep trying.

Sad really... I am guessing a lot of us guys born in the 50's, 60's and 70's are this way. Hard to reprogram our upbringings really.

Epi

 

[Yewki]

If you consider where women were 100 or even 50 years ago - basically second class citizens with no rights - then I dont know how you can honestly ask why feminism and the womens movement is "ok" or "beneficial".

But it's no longer 100 or even 50 years ago. It's now. And yet the feminist movement lingers on. Instead of fighting for basic female rights it seems the movement is now about bashing men and nitpicking every little gender descrepency. Not everything can or should be equal.

 

[El Payaso]

Feminism = "I have boobs. Give me free stuff!! He has a d!ck. Blame him for everything that goes wrong!!"

 

[The Duke]

The most obvious reason as to why you see so many "nice" guys these days is due to the break down in the family unit. As divorce became more and more common, so did single mom's raising boys with out a strong father figure. How do you think that boy will turn out that had little to no instruction from his father? He will be a lot like his mother, how could he not. You are a product of how you were raised.

Another influence is Hollywood and advertising media. There was a time when you saw strong male characters portrayed every where. Clint Eastwood, John Wayne, Magnum PI, Blue Thunder, the A-Team, Miami Vice, Dukes of Hazzard, MacGyver, Marlboro Man, etc.

This gave way to Family Ties, Dougie Houser, Jerry Seinfeld, Friends, Big Bang, Will & Grace, Modern Family. In several of these shows you have the females in control and the men are portrayed as soft, needy, codependent, inferior nice guys.

We now have a bunch metrosexuals/faggots acting like women in movies and tv. I also see a lot of commercials featuring men as inferior to women.
This kind of behavior eventually reaches the masses and is seen as the correct way to behave.

I can totally understand why women say there are no MEN these days. A lot of you 20's something I run into remind me of myself when I was 10!

 

[SmooveMooves]

Single mother households play a part as well.

 

[VikingKing]

You're talking about one facet of feminism. Just as there is a radical edge of the manosphere (as I discussed in prior posts) there is an equally insane side of feminism.

When you have two sides to anything there are going to be extremes, and consensus is generally found in the middle. If you consider where women were 100 or even 50 years ago - basically second class citizens with no rights - then I dont know how you can honestly ask why feminism and the womens movement is "ok" or "beneficial".

The people who would be threatened by the "rise of women" are the ones who fear women and can only control them through suppression and exploitation. A true DJ should have nothing to worry about, and would welcome women doing more work.

I don't give a fvck if its one facet, to me its the only one that matters because it affects me and all other men. I wouldn't mind if women "rose" by actually having to do the same amount of work, same amount of sacrifice and just as little security as men.

Women having the same rights of men, along with the sexual influence, and being always viewed as victim gives them to much power. Women were happier before feminism also.

The mens rights movement sometimes can get a bit extreme, but its far less extreme the feminism.

Women litterally don't deserve the advantages they have right now. In the past men did and still do. Men have died in wars, coal mines, hunting all through out history to build our modern societies.

Jurry. If you believe that in the past that the common woman was any more oppressed the common man, you are delusional.

Feminism achieved what i has by attacking men and masculinity. Feminism is really so much a womans right movement as it is a man hate culture. Deny it all you want but look at the difference between the claims of feminism, and the actual result.

I would rather women not be allowed to work actual jobs, or occasionally thrown under the bus, than have feminism.

You are screwed up if you believe that modern men should get thrown under the bus as a whole, and have rights taken away.

Give it a couple of generations of red pillers, and I bet you feminists are going to start having to fear going outside, or having people know where they live. This is less likely the happen if the economy stays powerful here. But if the economy ever falls to much, or just never recovers. Guess what, more women are in college now. you are going to have a bunch of poor, unhappy men with nothing to lose. Which is a very, very dangerous thing.

Funny thing is. I'm not a nerd at all. I was never really a nice guy, never really bought women stuff ect.

The ex that brought me here, welp I took advantage of her. So I'm not a burned, nerdy nice guy at all. I'm 8/10 for sure.

But what if one day I have sons? I would rather the feminists and their families be in a plane crash (all of them) than my sons having to face such hatred.

I think the concept in the movie fight club will become reality in a couple generations.

Why not validate feminists hatred for men?

When I was little kid, and I was whining, my mother always told me "quit crying or ill give you a reason to" which she never did, and it was when I cried over spilt milk.

"women and children first" yeah women were not oppressed, they were treated differently than men.

Jurry go back and read my op. Reflect for a few seconds and explain to me why its ok for men, boys and masculinity to be sacrificed so women can get an unfair advantage.

 

[Epimanes]

Women don't know how to raise boys to be men when they have no man... Doesn't make it right.. But it is what it is.. How can a women who is single teach a boy to be a man? She can't! And that's the bottom line. So men need to step up and be men for their kids so boys can be men again and stop quitting on their wives and leaving their kids behind.

 

[SmooveMooves]

Women don't know how to raise boys to be men when they have no man... Doesn't make it right.. But it is what it is.. How can a women who is single teach a boy to be a man? She can't! And that's the bottom line. So men need to step up and be men for their kids so boys can be men again and stop quitting on their wives and leaving their kids behind.

Or women need to stop having unprotected sex with men who will be deadbeats. It takes two to tango. Society takes all of the responsibility from single moms or even women in general in regards to sex.

Hell, they applaud single mothers, can't count how many times a woman is praised because she's a single mom and still manages to 'do it all'.

 

[jurry]

The more anger and hate grows on one side, the more it grows on the other, it doesnt solve anything.

We are where we are now, women have come a long way but as I've said previously we are still unequivocally in a male dominated society in terms of economic and political power. I simply dont see the reality you are presenting where "boys and masculinity are being sacrificed" and women have all the advantage - and thats coming from someone living in as "progressive" a state as there is.

If all you are concerned with is some radical, man-hating, feminist groups I wouldnt worry too much about it - they arent much of a threat thankfully.

 

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If all you are concerned with is some radical, man-hating, feminist groups I wouldnt worry too much about it - they arent much of a threat thankfully.

How the fvck would you know you silly woman? You do realize we are now in times where if you pump and dump too early and she gets a case of buyers remorse you can be hauled away by the nanny state badge monkeys that very day? "aren't much of a threat" What an idiotic thing to say.

Fart Rape is REAL!! ..Deal with it bigots!

 

[VikingKing]

The more anger and hate grows on one side, the more it grows on the other, it doesnt solve anything.

We are where we are now, women have come a long way but as I've said previously we are still unequivocally in a male dominated society in terms of economic and political power. I simply dont see the reality you are presenting where "boys and masculinity are being sacrificed" and women have all the advantage - and thats coming from someone living in as "progressive" a state as there is.

If all you are concerned with is some radical, man-hating, feminist groups I wouldnt worry too much about it - they arent much of a threat thankfully.

A minority of elite men dominate. This does not apply to the masses so its irrelevant. If women dominated the elites society would be off far worse. Only men make good leaders, not all men tho. If feminist can influence politi s or law its a major threat to all men, especially the.ones not yet.born. if they didnt have any influence then it wouldnt be threat. Jurry if ur are a female and a feminist I really hope a group of men validate ur.misandry over and over again.

The anger on the side of the mrm is justified. Feminists are not.

 

[Yewki]

as I've said previously we are still unequivocally in a male dominated society in terms of economic and political power.

At some point you have to stop complaining about "generally" getting paid less and "generally" having less power, and you just have to earn it. The berating of men for having basic biological needs is also very childish. It would be like if men formed a movement around women being *****es during their time of the month... it's human biology, deal with it.

 

[Epimanes]

Or women need to stop having unprotected sex with men who will be deadbeats. It takes two to tango. Society takes all of the responsibility from single moms or even women in general in regards to sex.

Hell, they applaud single mothers, can't count how many times a woman is praised because she's a single mom and still manages to 'do it all'.

And men should stop having sex with random women who allow them to raw dog it and accidently impregnate those women who create more nice guys raised by single women.

Men should lead the sex... And refuse if there is no protection.. Too many guys don't care who they blow their load into or the consequences of said action.

Epi

Single mothers are only applauded because its politicaly correct to do so. Why are they single?.. Hmmm..

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

God damn this whole idea. It isn't solely because of feminism. Sure, feminists suck and all that, but the point is that these 'nice guys' failed to learn the correct social skills when they were young. Not only that, but they also misinterpret what a woman wants. The thing is, when a woman says that she wants you to be nice, she wants you to just NOT be mean to her (when she hasn't wronged you). Some guys will make fun of her in a form of teasing her. You can do this, but you don't take it too far and annoy her or make her feel bad about herself. When women say to be nice, they mean that they want you to still be masculine and show strength while being fair and 'nice' (nice without being a pushover).
^^^^^^This is an advanced concept that is overlooked though. You fulfill everything that a woman desires. Strength and masculinity (respect through authority like a leader), yet you are fair and just (respected through likeablity similar to a leader).

Another misinterpretation that nice guys will do is be nice to people because their parents raised them to be that way. They didn't teach them to stand up for themselves or to have confidence to do what you want (because these parents thought that it would be common sense). They demote these qualities without realizing it, due to the child interpreting 'be nice' as 'be a pushover'. The person shall grow up weak, feebleminded, and insecure. The parents may or may not continue to keep feeding the child this [mis]information. If they don't, the child will never suffer enough to question him or herself. If the parents do, the child may collapse under the pressure and deal with the pain through unconventional means (cutting, drugs, suicide etc.) or the child may snap and become defiant, thus refusing all authority and will seek to do whatever he/she wants to do and will improve themselves that way. They will look for answers that they can intuitively discover on their own. Hence why all of you reading this are here........

Look, if you don't like feminism or certain people here, that's fine. You are entitled to your own opinions. But the thing is, I don't mean to say you are a hypocrite or anything, but complaining about problems (for others to deal with because you don't or are too scared to) instead of actually facing them isn't exactly masculine. Its the opposite.
"Be the change you want to see in the world." - Mahatma Ghandi.

 

[Genos]

That was a fantastic article Viking. Thanks for the link.

 

[bigneil]

Feminism is an evil tentacle of the central bank, designed in the 1950's to make women go to work and pay income tax, and to destroy the nuclear family in America. It's being trumped by the reality that women (in 95% of cases) can't make it comfortably on their own given the inflation that took away any additional income she may have earned, effectively enslaving her for no gain. Feminism is mostly fueled by fat, ugly women who couldn't get laid to save their lives, but who claim to live in fear of rape.

 

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Feminism is an evil tentacle of the central bank, designed in the 1950's to make women go to work and pay income tax, and to destroy the nuclear family in America.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to bigneil again.

Was waiting for someone to mention the sole reason for it's creation. Double the tax base and destroy the family unit.

Putting unqualified fat chicks in tech jobs,military etc etc, alpha fux/beta bux writ large upon society and redistributing the wealth of actual producers is just a by-product of keeping the charade going.