Is this site helping?

[resilient]

initial exposure to inner game

Sosuave helped me out when I was trying to learn more about how to approach women and then manage a relationship later if it had come to that success. It helped me to first begin to discover my own confidence with the DJ bootcamp which I battled it out into week 6 and crashed after not getting any dates from phone numbers I got.

Anyway, viewing the mature forum brought a lot of wisdom into my life and private messaging some of the older guys that have been around here the longest helped me survive oneitis and dealing with being alone again, sexually frustrated, and yet totally comfortable with it knowing that I was well on the path to becoming the prize.

I've found it's been rewarding because I made genuine connections with guys here who gave me awesome incites into what it means to be a man who's self-reliant and doesn't depend on women for happiness.

Pook's posts never seized to amaze me. I felt like I tapped into that age old philosophy of Plato or Aristotle, but with modern dating advice and was really stoked when he started his blog this summer.

It's as he called it "edu-tainment" =]

I think before I left the pua community last month I had nearly 500 approaches under my belt and would have continued to get more if I hadn't realized how pooly my responsibilities in my post-college career had began to show.

I'm not sure if it's DJ philosophy, but I've been learning to develop integrity and follow through and focus on becoming a man who's self reliant and financial independent before I hunt down a stable LTR or future marriage.

I've been actively participating more on Krassus' World Success Alliance forum lately for improving my financial prowess, but I plan to come back here time to time.

I know I'm definately a much better person today as a result of my brother giving me this url last November. I ditched the old "Peter Pan" life as a boy at age 24 and found the passion to become a man which will be much more rewarding in the future than just going out for a ONS.

My blog is still actively updated often... if you guys want to continue to follow my progress since I stopped posting in my approach journal that DJs on here stopped commenting on.

 

[WestCoaster]

Encouraging posts. Glad to see it's working somewhat. If it helps 10 percent of the people here, it's working. Sadly, I think 90 percent misinterpret the DJ philosophy as in hating women instead of it just being a confident man.

I do know this: De-programming AFCness is a daily struggle. I still have to de-program myself after years and years of it. Remember, before you were a DJ, you were bombarded and fed cultural and societal messages that you did not know where wrong.

Those are hard-wired into your subconscious. I see a lot of reformed AFCs dropping back into AFCness because they can't de-bug their sub-conscious. Heck, even last year I went into AFC mode with a woman, it was sick.

The biggest problem is this is the only information I've seen out there regarding DJism. Yeah, I've seen some whimisical books on being macho and hating women, which is thinly disguised in AFCism.

Keep de-programming!

 

[realsmoothie]

The biggest problem is this is the only information I've seen out there regarding DJism. Yeah, I've seen some whimisical books on being macho and hating women, which is thinly disguised in AFCism.

Yeah, exactly.

We need to seperate our frustrations with ourselves from those with women. I'm not saying women are perfect, or that feminism is without its problems... but for us to blame our inability to get laid on the fact that women are finally claiming some power is quite sad.

The answer is to better yourself, not knock someone else down.

 

[MisterAl]

SoSuave has changed my life

Over the past five years SoSuave has turned my life around. I still have much to learn.

I was a terminal case who had been consumed by oneitis and had learned some hard lessons as an AFC in a rotten LTR during the best of my college years. I eventually learned her manipulation tactics and I was stuffing it right back at her toward the end.

Despite being lightyears ahead of where I began, I'm still frustrated by what I regard as failures in my approach and style. My weakest areas are meeting and bringing new _quality_ people into my life, and being the Prize. My greatest advances have been in self-confidence and control, which have had positive influences in all aspects of my life, not just in dating.

I can only imagine what I might have done with this knowledge and self-confidence had I possessed it in college when I was surrounded by available women and potential social connections.

 

[Victory Unlimited]

Bump!


Anybody else here want to weigh in on this one?

 

[grinder]

If only 1% are helped, then its worth it.

Anybody that comes here has a 1000% better chance than the rest of the AFC's.

Here's some reality: One year ago today I park my car in the same spot, get out, tie my key to my shoe to go run, see a pretty girl walking her dog: I say nothing.

Yesterday: I park my car in the same spot, see a pretty girl walking her dog: I say "Hey, I guess its not true that people and their dogs are the same, your dog is beautiful...." Pause...then big smile, punch on arm...its on...

Thanks, thanks so much SoSuave, this changed my life.

 

[Victory Unlimited]

Yo Exp,


If you checked out what I posted already on this thread, then you know I "feel" ya' dude.

As far as what I do about the lack of butterflies? I don't really know yet. But somehow, I HOPE it's been a good trade-off. What I lack in butterflies I BELIEVE I make up for by knowing more about the true nature of women and relationships.

No, I haven't really experienced the same type of HOLISTIC emotional highs I used to when I was a full-blown AFC, but I also don't feel the OVERWHELMING shock of let-down whenever a chick I like suddenly starts flaking out on me.

Don't get me wrong though, I STILL feel that same sense of loss, it's just not quite as incompacitating. So in my heart I know that's progress and that that is a GOOD thing. I wish I knew what else to tell you dude, but right now I don't.

The ONE thing that has been happening to me lately that I can directly contribute to my more REALISTIC view of women and relationships is this:

I am discovering more and more thru HARD experience that women CAN NOT and SHOULD NOT be the main focal point of my life. All my other hopes and dreams are now screaming even LOUDER for my attention these days. As well they should...

You remember HOPES and DREAMS, don't you? Those are the things that lasting worthwhile "GOALS" are made of----things that are NOT fickle, flaky, and totally out of your control----like most women (at least most of the ones I've met unfortunately).

In the end, I don't want people to say "Boy, Victory Unlimited sure banged the hell out of the finest chicks when he was here, didn't he?"

No, I'd much rather they say "Boy, Victory Unlimited sure made a hell of a positive and lasting impact on people in general, AND the world around him when he was here, didn't he?"



March on!

 

[warpy]

did so well for me, i can now walk straight and look at chicks all around me, pick one and go talk to her, i can talk to girls anywhere anything without feeling that adrenalin rush kicking in. i am in more control than ever and i feel like its just the begining.

 

[MenAreBetterPeople]

This site has helped me incredibly in re-gaining my confidence and manhood.

I'm wondering if it's working as well for others.

On this board, but mostly on the main board I'm still reading about 95 percent AFC stuff. Mostly it's guys wondering how to manage a high maintenance gf, who is treating them about as well as they would treat a dog ... except the dog gets treated better.

All the scheming, plotting, and techniques can't turn a beyotch into a good woman. Whatever happened to not putting up with it, walking away and upgrading to a better woman or women?

I'm amazed not only how bad guys get treated, but how much they put up with it ... stuff I put up with many years ago in my AFC days. Then they ask for help and they get AFC advice to stay with the woman and only if they did this or that different, they'd turn her around.

That's not happening. Women rarely change for the good.

So I'm guessing that as great as this site is, people are not reading the DJ Bible and not taking the DJ/sosuave philosophy to heart.

Gotta be honest here, most have given me insights to my situations, except Rollo Tomassi. Private messaged him a few times a while back for some advice, only to be ignored, literally for no reason. Don't know what the dudes problem is. Figured I'd specifically ask him for advice cause he seems to know a lot about women(not to say that you others don't know anything). I'm not trying to sound like a little kid ranting here, but I'm just trying to point out that I've come to this site for some genuine, clean, sound advice so that I can learn some new things and IMPROVE my game, but instead get ignored. That's not how it's supposed to be around here. I mean seriously, what kinda crap is that? When you don't have anyone to help you on your road to self-improvement, if you can't rely on someone for advice like I relied on Rollo for example, then how the hell are you supposed to improve yourself?

 

[WestCoaster]

Once again with feeling: The most help you can get off this site is from sosuave.COM, not the message board. Rollo T. is a great help, but if he or someone else chooses not to respond, there is more than enough wealth of information off of sosuave.COM, not just sosuave.net.

I highly suggest the Hall of Fame articles that have a link on the left-hand side of the page, or just the "articles" also linked.

The best reading can be found in the DJ Bible, which is linked all over this site.

The message board is amusing; the most help comes from the articles. The best writer is the founder of this site: Allen Thompson.

 

[logicallefty]

Between this message board, sosuave.com, and the DJ Bible, words can't describe how much my game has improved.. I give them credit for a good chunk of my progress. All in all, honestly, I think we have a pretty level headed audience here too, more than other message boards I have ever been on (and there are a lot)..

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Private messaged him a few times a while back for some advice, only to be ignored, literally for no reason.

To which I answered you several times and not for arbitray reasons. You weren't (aren't) looking for advice, you were looking for affirmation and consolation - I don't play those games. I'd rather be pragmatic and give you something you can be constructive with, whether you want to hear it and accept it is another story. I don't mollycoddle people who really need a swift kick in the ass. You cannot educate those unwilling to learn, so I simply moved on to other people who'd benefit from what I had to offer them, rather than endlessly debate how fukked up your ONEitis girlfriend was and how you couldn't let it go. Simple as that.

If you're ready to open your ears now, I'll be happy to help.

 

[speed dawg]

In a word, yes, this site has helped me more than I could have ever imagined. Man I didn't know what I was doing wrong all those years. I wasted college being an AFC. I got laid, but I could have gotten laid SO MUCH MORE. It's really sad.

Once you get it, I think you've got it for good. The longer a relationship goes, the more you have to bend to make it work. But I'm my own person and I'm not known as "so and so"'s boyfriend. It's US, the MEN, who are each other's worst enemies. United we stand, divided we fall, right? Man, SO MANY GUYS I know would sh1t on their buddies for some stupid girl. Not I, my man, not I.

I was just talking to a chick in the bar the other night and she said, "You guys are supposed to entertaining us." I laughed out loud and walked off. That is what it has become. We are in the minority. I've been looked down on by my OWN FAMILY and my girlfriend's family for basically being an independent man.

We have to work together. The one consolation we can take out of this God-awful sh1tty liberal mess of a society is that it makes it that much easier on the "enlightened" ones.

 

[logicallefty]

posted by mistake. disregard

 

[disfunktional]

This site has helped me a great deal. I found it just over a year ago after I broke up my 7 year LTR. It helped me put things into perspective and get back on track with my life. I realised what a waste the last few years had been for me and how my ex-gf was in no way right for me.

Since then I have been reading on a weekly basis, picking up tips and keeping on the ball. I have had 4 casual relationships and fvcked each one - still a long way to go, but also I have pretty much been out every weekend with friends, socialising and having a good time. I rent my own apartment, have a good well paid job and have travelled to some cool places in the last year. Next year I plan to leave my job and go travelling for a few months. My ex-gf wanted to get back with me a few months ago ;-) You can imagine what I said...

I can attribute a lot of my motivation to posts on sosuave - it has helped me to realise to put myself first and to work on my inner game. I will continue to come here to help with picking up women and seduction techniques.

Thanks to all.

 

[MenAreBetterPeople]

To which I answered you several times and not for arbitray reasons. You weren't (aren't) looking for advice, you were looking for affirmation and consolation - I don't play those games. I'd rather be pragmatic and give you something you can be constructive with, whether you want to hear it and accept it is another story. I don't mollycoddle people who really need a swift kick in the ass. You cannot educate those unwilling to learn, so I simply moved on to other people who'd benefit from what I had to offer them, rather than endlessly debate how fukked up your ONEitis girlfriend was and how you couldn't let it go. Simple as that.

If you're ready to open your ears now, I'll be happy to help.

??? I asked you 3 questions, one of them I asked in response to one of your replies because I didn't understand what you had meant(you're gonna fault me for that?), and the other two were opinion questions, one of which had nothing to do with my ex. I asked you these questions in hopes that I'd learn a few things that I wasn't sure about. I don't know why you'd make a big project out of a few perfectly necessary, coherent questions. I politely asked you a few questions that anyone else on here would have. I was completely in the dark. The ex broke up with me and here I was trying to make sense of what happened. I shouldn't be getting blamed for asking questions that I didn't have answers to. You're beating around the bush and not taking responsibility for your wrongdoing. Whatever man. I'm not here to argue, I'm simply here to learn the things I don't know, like everyone else. And whatever I learn is greatly appreciated.

 

[MAVER1CK]

Reading your posts Rollo T has helped me alot. Thank you.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

MABP: Since your last post here was back in the middle of July, go refresh your memory:
Pure Evil

 

[MenAreBetterPeople]

MABP: Since your last post here was back in the middle of July, go refresh your memory:
Pure Evil

Ha! Funny how when I prove my point(and of course make him look like an idiot) in response to this post and prove Rollo to be the true scum that he is, he delete's my post. Classic Rollo! It's nice to be a moderator, eh?

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

I'll ignore that, but 2 things:

A.) Linking PMs only takes you to an admin warning page.

B.) Attempting to link PMs violates your membership here at SoSuave.

I was actually trying to keep you from being banned, but if you'd like that I'll unerase your previous post and let someone else report you to Paradox if you'd like?