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Is this one going downhill?

itishe

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Hello folks,

I've posted countless threads about my 3 month LDR, and hopefully you guys have the patience for one more. Before I begin I hope everyone can read this without bias against LDRs and give me their honest insight.

I hooked up with this girl before she left for college, I know I liked her insanely and all of her friends have told me she likes (or liked) me extremely. All went perfectly up until she started her third or so week of school. By that I mean she was really focusing attention on me. Constantly sending me messages on Myspace, comments on Myspace, and we did our habitual daily phono conversations.

As she started making friends, naturally she had less time to do these things, but we managed to keep the phone conversation occurence the same (which is probably the most important, Myspace comment numbers are not that important).

I've had to confront her a couple of times, which I'm sure gives her the idea that I won't put up with bull**** and to not waste my time if she wants to end the relationship. The first one was about a rumor I heard at work from the company slut that she slept with the guy she lost her virginity to tons of times instead of the one time she told me. She told me that she didn't and I believed her.

The other time was when one of her friends miscommunicated what she told her. I told her friend that I thought the relationship was coming to an end and wanted to know what she knew about what my girlfriend was thinking. She told me that my GF had told her something to the extent that, "she wants to end the relationship, but will feel bad if she had to do it and wanted me to do it". I asked her about it, and she said that is nothing close to what she said. I believed her and we kept going. I really believe her now due to the fact that her friend later apologized and told me that she meant to say, "my GF really likes me, but distance is hard and wouldn't feel as bad about losing me if I were to break up with her". I further believe her when I was drunk at a friend's party and the host left her myspace logged in. I checked her messages and one was from my GF saying that, "my friend RUINED my relationship with my boyfriend tonight, I dont' know if she thinks we can be friends after this, like it never happened".

My girl seems to have a good balance of guy/girl friends. I started getting a little jealous when she started hanging out with this one guy at college quite often (he has a girlfriend who he states he's in love with, so I don't know why I got jealous). Now she's starting to go over to this other guys house with her best friend at college quite often. Randomly in conversation she told me that this guy obviously likes her best friend.

Where I get worried is that before she left to college she was a big partier, getting drunk most weekends. She told me that she wanted to stop doing that in college because she thought it was overrated. Now she's drinking and smoking weed every weekend for about the past two weeks. I recently started partying more myself. I find it helps keep my mind off her and keeps my plates spinning.

Where I get really suspicious is last night. I was laying in bed talking to her when she was in bed as well. She recently found out she had some virus and had not been feeling well. Her best friend (who goes to that apartment more than her) came over asking to borrow her hair straightner. Suddenly she starts getting all peppy and hops out of bed. She tells me she's gotta go with her to that guys apartment to "watch out for her straightner". I said, "I thought you weren't feeling well?". To which she replies, "I'm not but like I said.". I basically tell her I'm going to bed then and I"ll talk to her tomorrow.

She sends me a text at about 6:30 AM my time before I wake up and tells me to call her when I wake up. I do and find out she's still awake at 4 AM (time difference), we have a short conversation and I'm on my way to class.

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All in all. I think she still likes me deeply, why else would we talk so much? Her friends tell me I'm the only one she ever seems to talk to on the phone, and she has admitted to me herself that she only talks to me and her bestfriend from her hometown frequently. If she was cheating why would she so openly tell me about what her friends and her do every day? She doesn't try to hide who she hangs out with and she tells me quite liberally what she does.

Your thoughts?
 

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itishe said:
I've had to confront her a couple of times, which I'm sure gives her the idea that I won't put up with bull**** and to not waste my time if she wants to end the relationship. The first one was about a rumor I heard at work from the company slut that she slept with the guy she lost her virginity to tons of times instead of the one time she told me. She told me that she didn't and I believed her.

Dude how old are you? This is NONE of your business!!! It doesn't matter if she slept with him once, twice or three-thousand times. This was before you were her boyfriend. Maybe she should interrogate you about the girl you lost your virginity to. None of that **** matters, but your acting like Captain Insecure-o, and its a turn off!!

The other time was when one of her friends miscommunicated what she told her. I told her friend that I thought the relationship was coming to an end and wanted to know what she knew about what my girlfriend was thinking.

Is your relationship between you, your gf and her friend? Then why in the fuvk are you talking about private business out in the open?? That's just asking for trouble. You should be smarter than that!! You can't be that naive or dumb, to think that her friend wouldn't tell her these things.

She told me that my GF had told her something to the extent that, "she wants to end the relationship, but will feel bad if she had to do it and wanted me to do it". I asked her about it, and she said that is nothing close to what she said. I believed her and we kept going. I really believe her now due to the fact that her friend later apologized and told me that she meant to say, "my GF really likes me, but distance is hard and wouldn't feel as bad about losing me if I were to break up with her". I further believe her when I was drunk at a friend's party and the host left her myspace logged in. I checked her messages and one was from my GF saying that, "my friend RUINED my relationship with my boyfriend tonight, I dont' know if she thinks we can be friends after this, like it never happened".

You must have felt like an idiot, because you definitely were acting like one!

My girl seems to have a good balance of guy/girl friends. I started getting a little jealous when she started hanging out with this one guy at college quite often (he has a girlfriend who he states he's in love with, so I don't know why I got jealous).

You got jealous because your insecure and a major AFC. If she had cheated in the past, then you might have a reason to be a little worried.

Now she's starting to go over to this other guys house with her best friend at college quite often. Randomly in conversation she told me that this guy obviously likes her best friend.

Do you trust your gf?? Cuz if you don't then all these things will drive you crazy because you'll always wonder if she's telling you the truth or if she's covering up. Without trust, you don't have much of a relationship.

Where I get worried is that before she left to college she was a big partier, getting drunk most weekends. She told me that she wanted to stop doing that in college because she thought it was overrated. Now she's drinking and smoking weed every weekend for about the past two weeks. I recently started partying more myself. I find it helps keep my mind off her and keeps my plates spinning.

Nice! You probably get jealous and all insecure when she tells you that she went to a party, yet you just started partying more and "spinning more plates." That's seems fair, doesn't it....

Where I get really suspicious is last night. I was laying in bed talking to her when she was in bed as well. She recently found out she had some virus and had not been feeling well. Her best friend (who goes to that apartment more than her) came over asking to borrow her hair straightner. Suddenly she starts getting all peppy and hops out of bed. She tells me she's gotta go with her to that guys apartment to "watch out for her straightner". I said, "I thought you weren't feeling well?". To which she replies, "I'm not but like I said.". I basically tell her I'm going to bed then and I"ll talk to her tomorrow.

This part sounds a bit odd. But like I said, without trust you don't have much of a relationship. Instead of playing Sherlock Holmes and investigating her lies, stop giving her a full-court press and focus on your life!

She sends me a text at about 6:30 AM my time before I wake up and tells me to call her when I wake up. I do and find out she's still awake at 4 AM (time difference), we have a short conversation and I'm on my way to class.

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All in all. I think she still likes me deeply, why else would we talk so much? Her friends tell me I'm the only one she ever seems to talk to on the phone, and she has admitted to me herself that she only talks to me and her bestfriend from her hometown frequently. If she was cheating why would she so openly tell me about what her friends and her do every day? She doesn't try to hide who she hangs out with and she tells me quite liberally what she does.

Sounds like your trying to convince yourself that your gf is up there with slice bread, but she's not. She's just another young, insecure girl, who's trying to find herself. You should follow in her footsteps because your a MAJOR AFC, with jealously issues and your a bit of a control freak. Think about it this way. If she is going to cheat on you, there's ABSOLUTELY NOTHING you can do about it. You might prevent her from cheating one night, but she'll do it the next time if she really wants to. Furthermore, your getting played like a fiddle if you actually believe that she's hundreds of miles away, a freshman in college living close to the campus, and not parading around like she's single.



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I've been wanting to do this for a while. I want to send her this email, or perhaps snail mail it.

Hey Itishe's GF,

I’ve been doing a lot of thinking lately. Thinking about us mainly, and this distance bull****. I really want this relationship to work out, but damn is it ever difficult as we both know.
Things just seem to not be the same as they were in the beginning. Not the physical part when you were here, but I mean even the first few weeks of our “phone relationship”. I really enjoyed spending hours talking to you, we were both open, sexual, and fun. I still do enjoy talking to you every day, but it feels like to me that we’re both clamming up. The only time we get remotely open is when we’ve been drinking, which disappoints me. This may sound stupid, but I wish we were both as affectionate when we’re drinking, when we’re not. It’s hard enough without being able to see you, and then add on the fact it feels like sometimes I’m just catching up with another friend, and not my girlfriend.
I understand you’re probably under a lot of stress, and we’re both very busy so that definitely isn’t helping.
I really miss you and can’t wait until you come back. Maybe when we see each other things will clear up, I don’t know I hope things do though.

- Itishe
 

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Hello Itishe,

I agree with Pimp-sicle on the part of trust. You need it for any relationship to last.

Personally, your relationship is a lot different than mine in the respect that we both did not party or smoke weed. I knew where she was for the most part. She would also call me all the time to just give me a heads up, which was very very VERY nice. She asked me all the time if she would let me let her hang out with certain people like guy friends because she wanted to let me know if she was overstepping her boundries.

This girl is really trying to find herself now and you don't know whether to trust it or not. I trusted her completely, which was completely different than what is happening in your life. You don't know if you can or not.

You need an "I don't give a sh!t" idea. If she leaves you know that you are not going to fall apart, but live on and become better. I love it.

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Personally, I know that if someone is asking the question they already have a doubt and just want help figuring it out. I believe that I already know what you want to do.

I say just break it off. Remember the good times, but do not harp on them. Live your life and go after some other girls. LDLTR's work only if their is complete trust in both parties. I do not think that both have mutual trust in each other.

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We're now taking a communication break. We both agreed our lives are too stressful to try to talk to each other every day, and the fact we can't see each other yet we talk so much.

Her friend told me that she is having a hard time "having me around, but not having me there physically".

But anywho, she told me she doesn't want to see anyone else and wishes to stay with me, so we'll remain faithful.

I must say I'm liking this, it's nice not having to worry about talking to her while I'm at a party and vice versa. Time has been going by faster it seems too.
 

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itishe said:
We're now taking a communication break. We both agreed our lives are too stressful to try to talk to each other every day, and the fact we can't see each other yet we talk so much.

Her friend told me that she is having a hard time "having me around, but not having me there physically".

But anywho, she told me she doesn't want to see anyone else and wishes to stay with me, so we'll remain faithful.

I must say I'm liking this, it's nice not having to worry about talking to her while I'm at a party and vice versa. Time has been going by faster it seems too.
Ok dude, what I tell you you must do, for your own sake. Say what you want, but this is HER game. You don't control anything here. You're probably going to lose this one because you are 100% wuss, no offense. If you want advice, listen to me. If you want comfort, quit reading now.

99% chance in my mine all this "break from communciation BS" was her idea,not yours. She's got your balls in her hand, pal. Quit caring now. Stop calling her. Interest level is dropping fast. Stop worrying about her. You are not attractive to her now because she knows she has you AND 1000 other c0cks ready to penetrate her.

Let her live her life, and you live yours. Quit controlling. BUT, don't harbor any bad feelings, just move on with your life. If she comes back to you one day, so be it, but she will dump your ass quick if you keep this up. Matter of fact, looks like she already did.

Embrace the fact that you two are apart. Use this time to look for other girls. I guarantee she's looking for other guys, and probably has already found some. In her situation, being young and insecure, she won't dump you until she's already bouncing on some other guys c0ck.
 

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Well, I had been talking to her for a couple days before hand about how things are getting different and I don't really care for it. So one day she brought it up, and we agreed to it. I havn't called her or anything during this "break" where as today she suddenly messages me on MSN. I don't plan on calling her either.

To be honest, I feel it's pretty much over with now, but I still like her. She doesn't keep me up at night, but I know I don't really feel attracted to any other girls at the moment.

I wonder why sometimes you guys keep telling me to quit being controlling... can someone explain to me how you magically know more than what I told you and can somehow label me as controlling?
 

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Well this one may be pretty much over, but I'm going to do my best before it does end.

I sent her a text last night after getting high, it was just a little playful joke and she happens to call me about three minutes later, but I start losing service and she gets a beep. She calls me a little later and leaves a message.

Heres what I plan to do:

-Let her make the next call
-Let go of most insecurity/jealousy and don't care
-Keep living life

If she wants to stay than awesome, if not then that's cool too.
 
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