Is this girl an idiot???

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Long story short, I was working a two-day convention in my home city two weeks ago when I saw this blonde at the next booth over. Didn't think much of it the first day, I was working, and paid her little heed. The second day, she dresses a lot more sexy and I notice she's trying to initiate some eye contact but I was in the zone at work and just didn't give a rip.

Last week, by pure coincidence, she ends up getting a job at my coworker's wife's company as a paid intern. My guess is that the convention gig was a temp assignment and this internship is a permanent thing. She mentions the convention and my company, coworker's wife mentions that her husband works at my company, she mentions me, coworker tells me in an email that the girl called me "dreamy" and basically wanted the D. Asked a ton of questions about my station in life, and also was ecstatic that I was an older man (31, she's 22) because all the guys her age are "boys." I told my coworker that if his wife said she was cool, I'd hang out with her. That was that.

Monday, my coworker stops by my office and says the blonde is frustrated because she's trying to find me on Facebook and can't. That's not surprising because I don't have a Facebook. I told my coworker to give her my number and she can text/call me if she wants. I figured she's doing all the chasing, I've got other prospects in my rotation, and I'm not going to break my neck for this one since it's being served up on a silver platter. Coworker gives me her phone number also, mentioning that sometimes younger girls don't want to make the first move.

I pocket the number and, not surprisingly, don't hear from her. So, I text her yesterday (Thursday) something simple to get the ball rolling, "hey this is [X], [Y]'s friend. She said you were cool and gave me your number."

Then, RADIO SILENCE. Not a peep since then.

So, is this girl an idiot? Or is she trying to gain hand?

My guess is that she was perturbed that I didn't notice her or approach her at the convention after she put on the sexy outfit, created an elaborate ruse through my coworker's wife to get some validation, got it through my text message, and decided to go about her day.

I thought I'd ask the wise folks here for confirmation. Whatever the reasoning behind this bizarre series of events, I'm not going to do anything more. Either she's playing games or she's just a moron. I don't have time for either. Thanks, guys.
 

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when a woman goes from having high IL to zero, and you haven't really done anything 'wrong', it is 90% likely because there is another guy in the scene.

Happens all the time nowadays because of all the media contact she has with dozens of di-cks: orbiters, boyfriend, ex bfs, fwb, ex fwb, guy she likes but lives in another city, random guy she met once, etc...

In today's society, where feminism is the norm and women have become wh-ores and it is ok because they can do whatever they want, however they want, and they are never responsible for their own actions, until you've fvcked a girl at least twice...you're not even in her life.
It doesnt matter if she was super into you, called you, texted you, etc. This is why we have to bang them asap.

Happens to all of us.
 

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22 year old girls get inundated with attention. She might not be able to associate a name with a face. You hardly know her.

She's an attention ***** too most likely and wants options thus telling your friends.
 

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This will quickly drive all women away from you.

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pyros said:
when a woman goes from having high IL to zero, and you haven't really done anything 'wrong', it is 90% likely because there is another guy in the scene.
Yep. Not saying this is the exact reason,but there's a high probability that this is the case. Add this to the fact that you tried to take the WOMAN'S ROLE here,and it's no wonder things turned out the way they did.

I personally do NOT THINK you've blown things with her yet,though.



calisurfer1984 said:
Long story short, I was working a two-day convention in my home city two weeks ago when I saw this blonde at the next booth over. Didn't think much of it the first day, I was working, and paid her little heed. The second day, she dresses a lot more sexy and I notice she's trying to initiate some eye contact but I was in the zone at work and just didn't give a rip.

Last week, by pure coincidence, she ends up getting a job at my coworker's wife's company as a paid intern. My guess is that the convention gig was a temp assignment and this internship is a permanent thing. She mentions the convention and my company, coworker's wife mentions that her husband works at my company, she mentions me, coworker tells me in an email that the girl called me "dreamy" and basically wanted the D. Asked a ton of questions about my station in life, and also was ecstatic that I was an older man (31, she's 22) because all the guys her age are "boys." I told my coworker that if his wife said she was cool, I'd hang out with her. That was that.

Monday, my coworker stops by my office and says the blonde is frustrated because she's trying to find me on Facebook and can't. That's not surprising because I don't have a Facebook. I told my coworker to give her my number and she can text/call me if she wants. I figured she's doing all the chasing, I've got other prospects in my rotation, and I'm not going to break my neck for this one since it's being served up on a silver platter. Coworker gives me her phone number also, mentioning that sometimes younger girls don't want to make the first move.

I pocket the number and, not surprisingly, don't hear from her. So, I text her yesterday (Thursday) something simple to get the ball rolling, "hey this is [X], [Y]'s friend. She said you were cool and gave me your number."

Then, RADIO SILENCE. Not a peep since then.

So, is this girl an idiot? Or is she trying to gain hand?
So you wanna know if this girl is an idiot,or if she's just trying to gain the upper hand on you. I say NEITHER.

The mistake/error here was on YOUR PART. The chick was giving you the green light,giving you IOIs,but you ignored them. She even frustrated herself trying to find you on FaceBook.

So you got all this time passing by,you ignoring her,her being frustrated,and the possibility of another guy being in the picture like Pyros mentioned.

Dude.....that's too much work for a sexy blonde to have to go through. If you were famous or rich,this might be understandable,but ain't no sexy blonde going through all that for some random cute guy.


My guess is that she was perturbed that I didn't notice her or approach her at the convention after she put on the sexy outfit,

I think that may have been PART of it,but that alone wasn't enough to make her lose interest.

created an elaborate ruse through my coworker's wife to get some validation, got it through my text message, and decided to go about her day.
Well....that's a lot to have to go through just for a little validation.

Whatever the reasoning behind this bizarre series of events, I'm not going to do anything more.
You're not doing anything MORE??? Dude....you've barely done anything at ALL.

I'll tell you what: Let's tally up everything she's done to get your interest,and everything you've done to get hers.....


For her,she....

Dressed a lot more sexy,and tried to get eye contact with you.
She told a co-worker that she thought you were "dreamy".
Asked "A TON of questions about you",and where you were in life.
Searched so much for you on FaceBook,that she frustrated herself.
Ok,that was her. Now,let's list what you did....

I sent her a text yesterday saying "hey this is [X], [Y]'s friend. She said you were cool and gave me your number."
That's it? You tried to take the girl's role. You said,quote...

I told my coworker to give her my number and she can text/call me if she wants. I figured she's doing all the chasing,

I've got other prospects in my rotation, and I'm not going to break my neck for this one.......since it's being served up on a silver platter.
You figured,"Well...she's doing all the chasing,so I don't have to do anything."
You figured this hot blonde was just giving herself to you on a silver platter.

At your age,you should know better. All she was doing was giving you the green light to make your move,she wasn't trying to complete the whole dating process herself.




Either she's playing games or she's just a moron.
I don't think she's either one. I just think she was looking for a MAN to be BOLD and make a move. I mean she gave you the first ioi TWO WEEKS AGO. How long was she supposed to wait?

Even the friend who gave you her number tried to give you a clue here....

Coworker gives me her phone number also, mentioning that sometimes younger girls don't want to make the first move.
The chick was giving the green light.....SEVERAL TIMES. What....did you expect her to give you the green lights AND MAKE THE FIRST MOVES TOO???


You still may have a shot at her,but you have to put forth some type of effort instead of sitting back and expecting her to give herself to you on a "silver platter".
 

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Until you see how she reacts to you I would not go on what other people tell you. Actions speak louder than words. Girls will say they want this guy or that guy but when the time comes they do not. Girls will make a move in those situations and if she was really interested she would initiate something herself. You already texted her so see if she does hit you back.
 

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No clue if she's an idiot, but failing to go when given light can result in a girl going from high IL to low IL.

Could be a bunch of other reasons as well ... Other guys in the picture, dealing with some issue or another she may want to play it cool, she's an AW, and 100 other things.
 

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Peña said:
Until you see how she reacts to you I would not go on what other people tell you.Actions speak louder than words.

I agree that actions speak louder than words.....but WHICH ACTIONS are you referring to?

Was it when she dressed all sexy and tried to establish eye contact with him?

or

When she told her friend that she thought he was "dreamy"?

or

When she asked 10,000 questions ABOUT HIM and his life?

or

When she spent so much time on Facebook trying to find him,that she got frustrated?

Exactly WHICH of these actions are you referring to?


I don't think he's blown it yet. I just think he needs to PURSUE instead of setting back with his feet propped up,hands folded behind his head like some king on a throne,with servants all huddled around him,fanning him and feeding him grapes.
 

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Igetit! said:
I don't think he's blown it yet. I just think he needs to PURSUE instead of setting back with his feet propped up,hands folded behind his head like some king on a throne,with servants all huddled around him,fanning him and feeding him grapes.
This made me laugh ... a LOT.

There's a method to my madness, though your earlier post was excellent. I can see how taking a blase attitude toward this situation could cause problems.

I did say, though, in my original post that I have other prospects, plates, etc. This girl would just be an addition to my queue and I'm not so hard up for female companionship at the moment as to chase this woman all around town. Then again, I'm not one to look a gift horse in the mouth, either.

FWIW, she texted me an hour or so after I posted this saying she's sorry she didn't get back to me sooner and blah blah blah she's out of town for the weekend.

I'm just going to respond with a simple, "Have a fun trip and don't get too crazy," once I get off work and call it a day.
 

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And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Igetit! said:
I agree that actions speak louder than words.....but WHICH ACTIONS are you referring to?

Was it when she dressed all sexy and tried to establish eye contact with him?

or

When she told her friend that she thought he was "dreamy"?

or

When she asked 10,000 questions ABOUT HIM and his life?

or

When she spent so much time on Facebook trying to find him,that she got frustrated?

Exactly WHICH of these actions are you referring to?


I don't think he's blown it yet. I just think he needs to PURSUE instead of setting back with his feet propped up,hands folded behind his head like some king on a throne,with servants all huddled around him,fanning him and feeding him grapes.

He is going on what the co worker is saying. Maybe she is making it bigger than it really is. I do not see all that as big actions. I know people who say "yeah she really wants him" and all that but when it comes time to put up nothing happens. The best indicator is what she is doing to show it for him.

I had girls who put in an effort to show me they were interested. They messaged me on facebook first, gave me their number without me asking for it, gave me a number when a friend says she liked me. Last time I was at a ball game a girl that tries to hook people up with vacations and cruises gave me her phone number telling me "call me sometime" after we talked for a few minutes. Girls will do that even ones who are shy. When I got
on the date with them they said to me 'I usually do not make the first move but I took a chance."

Some girls will not make a move but in this situation I think she would. If he goes on what he was told he has not blown it. He sent the text to her. An interested girl would reply to that text. No need to keep chasing her since she got his text and was told she wants the D. It is her turn now to react to his move he just made.
 

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pyros said:
when a woman goes from having high IL to zero, and you haven't really done anything 'wrong', it is 90% likely because there is another guy in the scene.

Happens all the time nowadays because of all the media contact she has with dozens of di-cks: orbiters, boyfriend, ex bfs, fwb, ex fwb, guy she likes but lives in another city, random guy she met once, etc...

In today's society, where feminism is the norm and women have become wh-ores and it is ok because they can do whatever they want, however they want, and they are never responsible for their own actions, until you've fvcked a girl at least twice...you're not even in her life.
It doesnt matter if she was super into you, called you, texted you, etc. This is why we have to bang them asap.

Happens to all of us.
^^ This. Girls, especially early 20's girls, have another guy(s) on deck. If the one she's into (at the moment) isn't acting the way she likes, she can easily find another one (or five) that are waiting to swoop in.
 

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I dont remember where I read that with women you have a 'windows of opportunity'. If you wait too long, the window closes and she looses all interest in you. In todays society this is even more pronounced because of smartphones, fb, instagram etc


This chick liked OP, she gave him several signs...some time passed...she saw no interest from OP...she went to fvck another guy from the 20 she has to choose from at the moment, you know she spins plates even if she's not conscious about it, lol.
 

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pyros said:
I dont remember where I read that with women you have a 'windows of opportunity'. If you wait too long, the window closes and she looses all interest in you. In todays society this is even more pronounced because of smartphones, fb, instagram etc


This chick liked OP, she gave him several signs...some time passed...she saw no interest from OP...she went to fvck another guy from the 20 she has to choose from, at the moment. lol.
Yep. You play the "long game" and she will jump on a new c0ck faster than a traffic light changes. Girls that age have no attention span and want instant gratification. With all the other thirsty guys she has waiting in the wings, she'll just forget you and hook up with someone else. The FB, instagram, etc. just accelerates it, truth.
 

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pyros said:
I dont remember where I read that with women you have a 'windows of opportunity'. If you wait too long, the window closes and she looses all interest in you. In todays society this is even more pronounced because of smartphones, fb, instagram etc


This chick liked OP, she gave him several signs...some time passed...she saw no interest from OP...she went to fvck another guy from the 20 she has to choose from at the moment, you know she spins plates even if she's not conscious about it, lol.
I agree with this but I'll add my own little spin on it.

They don't lose interest in you per say (attraction), they simply move on to preserve the ego. They feel "rejected" when you don't pounce quickly, especially if they feel like gaining your interest should've been a cake walk. This window tends to be rather short these days because the average man is quite desperate and women have tons of options.

Women do not like not having the upper hand, especially in the beginning. That's why we have to pursue them to some extent.

You want to see a woman get extremely pissed off? Have a guy dump her who she felt was of lower SMV. They can become downright violent in this scenario. To them it makes them feel like they've lost their calibration. "Oh my god I must not be as hot as I think I am!!"

If they get dumped by the high SMV "jerk" it will hurt their feelings and they'll get pissed but it's nothing compared to the former.
 
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