"My question is: How does this square with the idea that once you're in the friend zone, you can't get out? You're saying he's either gay or a possible fvck. What if he's in the friend zone?"
Well if a guy is in the friendzone its 100% because he's allowed himself to be there.
In the AFC sense the guy is there because the girl is hot and he is plotting a strategy where he believes if he orbits around her long enough he might be lucky enough to be around when the girl goes through an emotional hard time the AFC can be the shoulder to cry on and get some grief sex but more likely the AFC feels that if he shows the girl he is attracted to enough of his own goodness she too will see the goodness in him and then knowing him to be a great guy fall in love with him due to his goodness and then proceed to jump his bones.
The AFC makes the crucial mistake in assuming that moral behavior is what arouses a woman to drop her panties in the first place as well the AFC assumes that he is a moral and righteous man and that preying on a girl until her defenses are down so as to manipulate her into wanting his c0ck is alright and just a regular part of courting.
Being an amoral man I could give a fvck less what a guy does to arouse a woman's attraction or get her into the sack but what I'm saying is that those who would consider themselves moral are those that need to judge themselves by their own moral values.
An AFC is usually self deluded and does not understand the full picture of his behavior and how it contradicts the moral image he has of himself and an AFC with this particular method of operation (most of them conduct themselves this way) would be left in abject shock to have it spelled out for him that his own method of courting a woman are just as nefarious as any local lothario's he despises if not moreso since the AFC's deception is ever more sinister.
Moving on never say never as far as getting out of the friendzone...
What put you there in the first place was likely being a beta male and thus becoming her emotional tamp0n sopping up all the filth of the stories of lovers who've spurned her and who she's spurned and her emotional trials and tribulations and what a great friend and guy you are for being there for her all this time blah blah blah.
Also what puts a male in the friendzone is consciously or unconsciously acquiescing to a woman's frame who is bound and determined to put you into that frame.
Hmmm, bound and determined isn't the proper way to put it with women its moreso a sickening kind of unthinking arrogance to place you there automatically, a flippant casual callous arrogance that assumes you in the friend role before you even begin speaking to her.
What can
possibly get a guy out of this frame is beginning to act in ways that do not re-inforce this undesireable frame.
-Such as going after her friends with solid DJ ****y and funny game (to elicit jealousy) or her, herself.
-No longer allowing her to tell you long monotonous stories of her exploits with Renaldo the Carpenter who pounds more than nails.
-No longer going on emasculating shopping outings with her or putting up with any disrespectful little comments from her meant to keep you in your place.
I'm not saying go thermo nuclear on her and tear her a new assh0le in Joe Rogan like fashion but be willing to trade barb for barb in neghit like humorous fashion and go cold no contact with her after her spell of being a disrespectful b!tch towards you.
If you want a woman or people in general to see you in a new light you must be that new light.
Some of the time though certain people and women will NEVER accept the new you at which point you cut them off for good.
And hey who knows a lot of time down the line you find these same women years later out of shape and suddenly attracted to you but you've got no time for them. You've got three seperate dates scheduled for the month with three far more attractive and younger 18 year olds.