Is this a test ?

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Hi all - been lurking on this site recently and just had to post to get some feedback on this situation - its driving me up the wall :crazy:

been seeing this 31 year old for 3 months - everything good so far - plenty of sex - no flake outs and she is always availalbe to see me when i want (2-3 times a week)

she says i am unlike any man she has dated before - not needy, bit of a closed book, unable to control or order me around etc

the thing is, she has a bad habit of coming out with wtf moments eg: she will see someone on TV and state that she really wants to f***k him - happened on quite a few occassions now

have bitten my tongue and responded in kind about other women i see but, despite being disrespectful, it seems like this could be some sort of test to see how i would respond/react !

any ideas or similar experiences out there ? how would you react ?
 

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Clearly a test to see if you're jealous or not. Just say something like "Yeah I'd fvck him too" or "Oh my god yes he's so hot!", doesn't really matter but the point is to not get jealous. I'd also start doing it to her, pointing out hot chicks in front of her to see how she reacts. Turn the tables on the little ho.
 

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definitely play along like it's no big deal, or just ignore it, but I wouldn't purposely check out girls just to get back at her. That would be a passive aggressive way to let her know that it bothers you, in which case you'd fail her test.

Try and think like a true alpha. A true Alpha DJ would have so many women at his disposal that one of his girls blatantly masturbating to a guy on TV would barely get his attention.

You could try reframing her statements to mean that she is always super horny and you're not sure if you can keep up with her, and playfully suggest that you don't know if you can keep dating her if she's always going to be needing sex.
 

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Though I agree you shouldn't get back at her, that simply shows your effected.

But on a similar theme, I feel personally it is healthy in a relationship to remind your girl the type of women you like.

I.e when a sexy women comes on TV or even walks past you in real life that has, say a cracking pair of legs. To me, I simply look and make no apology of it. I'd even go so far has to say "Wow check that out".

Now I know firsthand this is very effective, it is a great tool to use for asserting your standards. For example if an attractive slim women comes on TV, and you state 'my she has got a great body', your girlfriends hamster in her head will be spinning over-drive and 9 out of 10 times she will be judging herself based on that comment, which to me is a good thing.

As for stating 'you want to fuc* someone', I only do this, if I have complimented a girl on TV and my girl makes an issue of it, say a women who comes on TV now and again, if she comes on TV and my girl say's 'so and so is on TV' - Then i'd ramp it up a notch, knowing I've got under her skin, it's also a pleasure to see my girls face every time I make a positive comment about some hottie on screen, especcially someone she know's I like.

On the other hand I also re-enforce the alternative, if a fat women comes on screen, I am rather vocal on that too, or say if I am sat in a resturant and a fat women is shoveling food in her gullet, I will ask my GF to swap seats so I can’t see the fat oik pigging out. I actually go an extra mile in this regard with a girl, then I would do alone. Because it shows her without being critical of her personally, what I like and dislike. For fat people I'd say things like 'god that's disgusting', or ramp it up an extra notch for effect 'Why would any man find that thing attractive, dam last thing she needs is more food'. I get really anal, but there is a reason for it, I know being vocal about it, has an extra effect of showing her that I wouldn't tolerate fat chicks, hence it is a subliminal type set up to show her, if she starts to relax, I wont be happy at all. The more anal I can be now and again the more, I feel it enforces that point.

Edit - Any guilt trip feelings from my girl are knocked on the head and challanged, with male logic. For example, if my girl says 'dont be nasty', when I have made a comment about some fat chick on TV. I will state 'I'm not being nasty, i'm being truthful'. At first this resulted into chick logic of emotional fuc*ary "She probably cant help being that size because of XYZ". Which I knocked on the head instantly with the logic that; food makes one fat, the rest is simply bollo**s to sell women diet fads that don't do shi*, that an excercise bike can't fix. Now when I make a comment, depending on the severety she either joins in and agree's, smiles or shakes her head, but has never arguing her point since.

Hence if you do it, you have to be prepared for the follow ups and dont sway from the path, even when the chick logic starts coming out, or the shaming language, which when checking other girls out, there is plenty of shaming techniques that men have been subjected to, to keep them from checking other girls out, which I feel is counter-productive, because in truth, it creates a competition anxiaty in your girl and makes her re-asses herself. Ofc this is not being Anal and doing it for every-girl, but at least tossing this stuff out now and again for effect.

At least once per week is a good start, but I tend to do this about 2-3x per week, if I see a really fat chick, i'll comment each time. Likewise for a super attractive girl who looks after herself.
 
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Most likely not a test. Just a women blabbing about what she is thinking. Almost sounds refreshing.

When she says this again........ you tell her your horny also....... and then take her panties off........ hook her heels behind her ears....... and give her a good fckin.......right then and there.
 

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thanks for the input guys it's what i suspected - can't believe i'm still dealing with this woman bulls**t still

this girl is, by her own admission, "to honest" and has since admitted she has slept with 5 men since she split with her LTR way back in May '09 - not sure if this is again a test to see how i would react or if she is indeed a promiscuous ***** - she also hardly initiates contact (but does respond quite quickly if i contact her) - says she doesn't want to come off as a desperate/needy girl ?!?!

not sure if all these signs are major red flags - should be spinning more plates i guess but, for some reason, she has got the hook in me

your comments are more than welcome as i'm thinking of bailing on this one
 

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taylor03 said:
thanks for the input guys it's what i suspected - can't believe i'm still dealing with this woman bulls**t still

this girl is, by her own admission, "to honest" and has since admitted she has slept with 5 men since she split with her LTR way back in May '09 - not sure if this is again a test to see how i would react or if she is indeed a promiscuous ***** - she also hardly initiates contact (but does respond quite quickly if i contact her) - says she doesn't want to come off as a desperate/needy girl ?!?!

not sure if all these signs are major red flags - should be spinning more plates i guess but, for some reason, she has got the hook in me

your comments are more than welcome as i'm thinking of bailing on this one
If you have doubts and your doing most of the contacting/chasing.

Then the only advice I can give is the one you already know, that is to spin another plate or more.

The only reason this girl has her hook in you, if you don't mind me saying is due to your lack of potential options. It is clear this girl is not pressing the right buttons, by your own admission your thinking of bailing, hence you already sense she isn't the girl for the long haul, hence she would be perfect for a plate.

Now the solution is to toss another one in there if possible, easier said then done, I know. But not impossible, if the options presents itself, I'd suggest you take it.

Last girl I dated who had many partners, was alot of fun, but ended up giving some guy a BJ in a nightclub when drunk, this was when I was alot younger and wet behind the ears. Sometimes these girls cant help-themselves and toss in booze, you have a volitile situation, at the very least it is clear your developing signs that you dont trust her, is that your problem? Not really, she is clearly giving signals and doing things, your gut doesn't agree with.

Spin more plates, this is perfect since, your the one doing the chasing, hence you could screw another girl and she would be none the wiser, if she is, how can I say a loose chick, she probably wont care has much has you feel she will anyway.
 

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jonwon you are right of course - gotta get myself out there and mixing it with the City girls;)

thing is i haven't gamed women for a few years (just come out of a nasty divorce) and a lot of friends are teamed up in LTR's or marriages

will keep spinning this one for a while (the sex is good) and keep an eye out for other plates

funny thing is she just contacted me out of the blue to see if i'm around tomorrow night - maybe the cutting back on contacting her is working and i've got her all worried :up:
 

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Ok, not trying to be an a.hole.

What is the exact problem? Is there more than what you are posting about?

Surely there is??
 

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what i'm trying to get across and discuss is this girls disrespectful behaviour ie: saying she wants sex with other men out loud and in front of me - to my mind this is unacceptable behaviour

the general consensus being that i need to go out and meet other girls to divert my attention from this one

there are no other problems - i get what i want from her and she is always available etc

wanted to find out if you boys on the forum had another take on her attitude thats all - just found it a little bizarre after being out of the dating game for several years
 

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taylor03 said:
what i'm trying to get across and discuss is this girls disrespectful behaviour ie: saying she wants sex with other men out loud and in front of me - to my mind this is unacceptable behaviour
If I understand right, these are men she sees on TV?? Not with men you know in person IE friends?

More like fantasy people?
 

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i know where your going with this logic1 - they are celebs on tv - no matter, just seems disrespectful to me if they are people she sees on the street or celebs - after hearing it so many times you begin to wonder wtf - why you with me if you want to screw other blokes at the same time

can't work out why someone would come out with stuff like that when you start out dating - does she want me to dump her sorry arse ??! clearly not - its just a test to see how i react - to see if i get jealous or not

never come across such behaviour in a woman before - thats why i'm asking if you guys have any insights
 

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Definitely not a keeper but have fun for a little while.

Accepting the fact that she is NOT a keeper, I would use that info to either move away from her or (if I was so inclined) see how freaky she truly is.
 

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I see where you are coming from. My thoughts are she knows when she makes these comments it gets a reaction from you. She knows how to push your buttons. Maybe this is the only area she feels she has some control. If so, you are doing a good job.

Before you throw her back in the sea try and change your reaction to these comments. Allow her words to go in one ear and out the other. Try and go along with her comments (as I said way up thread in a sarcastic way). Try and turn it into a positive. Ask her how? where? when? Turn up the sexual talk. Just see how she reacts. Dont get negative and jealous. Maybe pat her on the butt....you know what I mean.............be easy going.

If you dont like her reaction throw her away.
 

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i appreciate what your all saying but i'm intrigued to find out why someone would come out and say things like this

i mean is she mental ? is she unaware of what she is doing - is she really not that tactful or is she just plain immature or, even worse, she actually means it :crazy:

if i called her on this (i won't) i know i would get a reply along the lines of "oh get over it" - almost like it was no big deal

in other ways she's a complete sweetie and can't do enough for me - the 2 sides to her don't marry up

think i will take the advice on this thread and start giving it back but in a subtle playful way - keep you all posted
 

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princelydeeds said:
Definitely not a keeper but have fun for a little while.
princelydeeds said:
Definitely not a keeper but have fun for a little while.
princelydeeds said:
Definitely not a keeper but have fun for a little while.
princelydeeds said:
Definitely not a keeper but have fun for a little while.
princelydeeds said:
Definitely not a keeper but have fun for a little while.
princelydeeds said:
Definitely not a keeper but have fun for a little while.
princelydeeds said:
Definitely not a keeper but have fun for a little while.
Yes, it's worth repeating.
 

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taylor03 said:
i appreciate what your all saying but i'm intrigued to find out why someone would come out and say things like this

i mean is she mental ? is she unaware of what she is doing - is she really not that tactful or is she just plain immature or, even worse, she actually means it :crazy:

if i called her on this (i won't) i know i would get a reply along the lines of "oh get over it" - almost like it was no big deal

in other ways she's a complete sweetie and can't do enough for me - the 2 sides to her don't marry up

think i will take the advice on this thread and start giving it back but in a subtle playful way - keep you all posted
The question is, should you care enough to figure out why? Should you invest yourself emotionally and deal with it or not?

You shouldn't, any girl willing to eliminate herself like that from a possible LTR, by proclaiming how much of a slvt she is, really isn't worth LTR status anyway. She's taking herself out of the running. So just have fun, have a threesome, who cares, she's a toy.
 

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i hear what your saying jwh - thats what i intended to do from the beginning - just use her for a bit of fun until something better came along but like i said for some reason she's got the hook in me

everyone knows, on this forum especially, how rare it is to find these days a good woman with morals/values standards etc - its not easy and only by process of elimination/dating many women do we filter out the low quality from the high quality

i did this for many years and married what i thought was a great woman - no major issues / no slutty past and bang !! divorce came around - now i've lost my home and am due to be hammered financially in the courts

this girl i am seeing is an enigma - something i've never come across - thats why i've come on here to discuss it - maybe someone else has had a similar experience
 

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taylor03 said:
i appreciate what your all saying but i'm intrigued to find out why someone would come out and say things like this

i mean is she mental ? is she unaware of what she is doing - is she really not that tactful or is she just plain immature or, even worse, she actually means it :crazy:

if i called her on this (i won't) i know i would get a reply along the lines of "oh get over it" - almost like it was no big deal

in other ways she's a complete sweetie and can't do enough for me - the 2 sides to her don't marry up

think i will take the advice on this thread and start giving it back but in a subtle playful way - keep you all posted
Ultimately you have to decide whether this kind of blatant disrespect is a dealbreaker or not.
The fact that you posted here is an indication that it really bothers you. The question is - by how much ? My guess is that this 'TV guy' worship by her will soon progress to 'real life guy' oggling by her, and your resentment will increase to the point that you will reach your limit of tolerance and explode one night after a little alcohol.
The problem with the "show that it does not bother you " school of thought is that is it encourages her to amp it up . IT does NOT discourage her . She is doing this for a reason. She wants some kind of reaction from you and she will continue until she gets it.

Frankly, these sorts of "honest" revelations by a woman disqualify her as a contender for an LTR because a woman who genuinely wants to be in a relationship with a guy will go out of her way NOT to piss him off. 'Best behavior' is a woman's best tactic, and most decent women practise that style (for a month or two, at least ) .

With that in mind, the sorts of comments that she is making can easily be interpreted as signs of LOW interest in you inspite of her acting like a "sweetie "in other ways to compensate.

Another possibly explanation is that she knows that she has you on her (sex) hook and her comments are her way of trying to make you squirm. Therefore it may be a Pvssy Power Play by her and there is no simple or effective counter available to you except walking away..
You are starting to be feel the impact of the inevitable consequences of hanging out with a h0.

I have encountered similar behavior ONCE with a woman who was also "sweet" and very accomodating, but she was a ho who used her sweetness to try to balance out the negative consequences of her wh0rish behavior. The sweetness is deliberately applied - make no mistake.

Ultimately these sorts of women are FB's at best.
Be vigilant about allowing yourself to develop 'feelings" for her.
THis is one account in which you do not want to invest.
 

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jophil28 - the sound of reason - you are correct in everything you say and i can't believe i'm kidding myself otherwise ie: pretending she ain't no Ho and believing it to be some sort of immature test

i think i may call her on this and if i lose a FB then so the **** be it - there are plenty of others out there - as you say no woman who was serious about having a relationship would behave in such a disrespectful manner

will probably save a lot of heartache and trouble later on

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