Is there really a way to win the game these days?

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I've heard that over the last 10 years, "the game" has gotten much harder for guys. Long gone are the days of PUA and routines.

Many men are going red pill and MGTOW.

Is there any real way to win? Or do women have all the power and knowledge?

The only thing I can currently do is try to find girls who will want money.
 

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You can "win" by having standards you adhere to and don't bend for puzzy. There will be someone who wants to deal with you.
 

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If you spent the amount of time actually working on finding and dating women as you do on here crying and complaining maybe you wouldn't have much to complain about...

Just a thought
 

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The game is totally in our hands. Women get lots of attention from men looking to just lay them and they equate this to genuine interest. Going out with some dude preoccupied with picking up a tab and getting her to lay as quickly as possible that evening is not the same as a guy who just wants some good company and may be interested in her for less selfish reasons. I think their is value in the latter for women and you would be surprised how many realize that.

I'm not suggesting to go all beta on a girl either, being alpha and trying to build a deeper relationship are not exclusive of each other.
 
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If you spent the amount of time actually working on finding and dating women as you do on here crying and complaining maybe you wouldn't have much to complain about...

Just a thought
Maybe I'm talking to 2 girls right now.

Maybe you need to watch the way you talk to people. You are not some wise person.

You TALK but you don't know sh1t.
 
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The game is totally in our hands. Women get lots of attention from men looking to just lay them and they equate this to genuine interest. Going out with some dude preoccupied with picking up a tab and getting her to lay as quickly as possible that evening is not the same as a guy who just wants some good company and may be interested in her for less selfish reasons. I think their is value in the latter for women and you would be surprised how many realize that.

I'm not suggesting to go all beta on a girl either, being alpha and trying to build a deeper relationship are not exclusive of each other.
Yea but it's so hard, like...

Instead of being super horndog trying to **** from the first second...

I'll talk about something else or trick my mind into looking for other things. But I'm still just doing that to have sex.

There's no way around it. And there's no way to just FORGET all the red pill stuff.
 

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I've heard that over the last 10 years, "the game" has gotten much harder for guys. Long gone are the days of PUA and routines.

Many men are going red pill and MGTOW.

Is there any real way to win? Or do women have all the power and knowledge?

The only thing I can currently do is try to find girls who will want money.
Depends.

What does WINNING look like to you?
 

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Maybe I'm talking to 2 girls right now.

Maybe you need to watch the way you talk to people. You are not some wise person.

You TALK but you don't know sh1t.
Sure thing toadie...
 

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I've heard that over the last 10 years, "the game" has gotten much harder for guys. Long gone are the days of PUA and routines.

Many men are going red pill and MGTOW.

Is there any real way to win? Or do women have all the power and knowledge?

The only thing I can currently do is try to find girls who will want money.
It comes down to these things in attracting women:
-Looks
-Personality(Confidence, Charm)
-Money(Assets)
-Status(Power/Career/Social Proof)
-Social Skills

These have held true for many years. If you are lacking in some of those areas then you better have more in another area. To get the best girls with the least amount of effort, you must score high in all of those categories. So you asked me how you win, this is how you do it.

I think you need to start with the basics. I saw your dating profile and you might as well be fishing with out any bait on your hook.
 
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It comes down to these things in attracting women:
-Looks
-Personality(Confidence, Charm)
-Money(Assets)
-Status(Power/Career/Social Proof)
-Social Skills

These have held true for many years. If you are lacking in some of those areas then you better have more in another area. To get the best girls with the least amount of effort, you must score high in all of those categories. So you asked me how you win, this is how you do it.

I think you need to start with the basics. I saw your dating profile and you might as well be fishing with out any bait on your hook.
But there's nothing good on POF, anyway.

What good is putting interests and hobbies when they all revolve around making money?

I barely even enjoy spending time around females unless my **** is inside them.
 

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But there's nothing good on POF, anyway.

What good is putting interests and hobbies when they all revolve around making money?

I barely even enjoy spending time around females unless my **** is inside them.
Look at how negative you are. Your personality is part of your problem.

You put interests and hobbies because people are attracted to others when they have things in common. This is how humans relate to each other. You could take your job of "remodeling/flipping" houses and have something in common with a girl that likes interior decorating.

And females barely enjoy spending time around males that just want to fuhk them.

You can't expect to get something great when you aren't great yourself. Even on Seeking Arrangements, the guys that present themselves the best get the best girls. I have a friend that cleans house on that site and I've met a few of the girls he got off there. Some he didn't even have to pay.
 

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You should hopefully reach a time in your life when you understand winning is a short lived joy and very temporary and volatile. On the other hand, ENJOYING what you're doing is key to being good at it and it fulfilling you in one aspect. But you're to eager to win right now, you will probably not understand what I am saying anyways, but I am laying it out there for you.
 

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If you spent the amount of time actually working on finding and dating women as you do on here crying and complaining maybe you wouldn't have much to complain about...

Just a thought
Exactly

It only takes an hour to an hour and half to hit the gym do that for 6 months to a year
and You will lose weight or add some muscle

Being fit helps a lot
 

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Show me the hot girls you are banging.
Edit: **** too late he beat me to it, next time I will prevail though
 

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Is there any real way to win? Or do women have all the power and knowledge?
We can win but not in the short term. Women always pull away at some point, and it usually means they slept with someone else. We need to use that time to improve ourselves. I just had a seven week standoff, then she reached out, then I ran into her again, then I said "let's go away to a lake resort" and she said "ok, what should I wear?". We have to show women our strength over the long term, and they will test us.

You need to improve to the point where at least 2 hot babes are chasing you. That means hitting the gym and earning a lot of money.
 

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Sex with hot girls.

Preferably for free, but I don't want to get too greedy.

And preferably without being sucked into a relationship that will destroy your soul.
Sluts and drunks.

Otherwise you'll have to pay or at least entertain some kind of relationship..
 

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My ex just emailed "I'm so so SO excited to see you!" (tomorrow). I'm looking at possibly having the best makeup sex of my life, so yes, we can win at this game.

Wow. Remember: when she pushes you too far, you leave on good terms, you walk away forever and focus on self improvement. She misses you, she feels your strength, the other guy messes up, and you've improved. Then, when she reaches out, feel her out, and then ask her out.
 

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It comes down to these things in attracting women:
-Looks
-Personality(Confidence, Charm)
-Money(Assets)
-Status(Power/Career/Social Proof)
-Social Skills

These have held true for many years. If you are lacking in some of those areas then you better have more in another area. To get the best girls with the least amount of effort, you must score high in all of those categories. So you asked me how you win, this is how you do it.
Sorry bro, don't agree with it. The items you are listing is cause and effect and doesn't win you the game. You WIN the game by being:

- Tall
- Having all your hair
- Being Younger
- Having Novelty

Social status, money, assets, social skills, that stuff means NOTHING to women. Why should it? This is not the 1950s or the Middle East. They can get all that stuff by themselves.

Women today seek pleasure, entertainment, novelty from men. To have a few extra dollars in your account means absolutely NOTHING to them.

I said it before, I have tons and tons of assets. My look is OK, my social skills are good, my career is OK, I have power. I have so much money that I throw it away. And girls don't care.

I think to be successful with women, you have to grow up affluently between ages 0-18, have a sister, get height, keep your hair, and not take crap. Whether you have a few extra friends or are in a special profession has NOTHING to do with it.
 
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