Is there a sure way to know a genuine IOI ?

[jafyk]

Is there a sure way to know a genuine IOI from an AW just trying to get an attention?
I am asking this question based on an experience I had a few minutes ago.
I am at my school library using the PC and there's this HB8 sitting right across from me working on the PC with other people around her as well. She makes eye contact, smiles, I make eye contact smile and with draw eye contact. She washes and repeats. I engage her. Next thing she whips out her lip gloss and puts it on and licks her lips and kinds of sits erect to show off her bust and also touches her neck just behind her ears. I'd not have realized some of this signs if I had not read "Undercover Sex Signals" by Leil Lowndes. it's a book about how women give out IOIs (Check it out). Anyway, because the library is a hush hush place and I didn't want to start having a loud conversation from across where I was sitting. So, I sent her a note and this is what transpired. I guess the thing that baffled me is that she showed these IOIs and yet she said she wasn't available. How can a guy know when it's genuine IOI and avoid an unnecessary tease and rejection? Now, normally I can handle talking to women and handling rejection especially if I was the one who wanted to go after her from the onset. However it feels different when a woman sends out signals, like she wants you to talk to her only to turn you down. Anyway, here's the transcript of my note exchange with her.

Me: Hey! Howaya? I'm Jafyk and You're? Chelsea. Are you on facebook? No, Sorry

Me: Nice name. Funny that's the name of my favorite soccer club in England. So, how does one get a hold of a lovely lady like you sometime?
e-mail?_ _ _ _ _
# _ _ _ _ _

Her: Well... I don't think my boyfriend would like that! (sad smiley face)Me: Is that so? I didn't know having a bf means you can't get acquainted with new people. That's ok anyway. If I never asked I'd never have known, lol

Her: I'm sorry I'm sure I'ill see you around campus. Have a good day!

she packs up her books and leave without a goodbye. I guess I must have read this one wrong. I only asked for the facebook. So, that if she had one I'd have asked her to get on it and chatter with her for a few. Anyway, your thoughts on this one guys.

 

[Rebound Material]

sorry, i didnt exactly read your entire post or at all...but to answer the title of this thread: MAKE A MOVE. Act on what you think is an IOI. Thats the only way to see if she was just fcuking with your head and not.

 

[jafyk]

sorry, i didnt exactly read your entire post or at all...but to answer the title of this thread: MAKE A MOVE. Act on what you think is an IOI. Thats the only way to see if she was just fcuking with your head and not.

Well, sir you should've read the whole post cos I did make a move. What did you want me to do? Start talking across from my PC trying to pick up a girl in a quiet library. I could she was in the middle of typing something. There were 2 people sitting beside he. So, even if I had approached her she would have to stop what she's doing and turn the chair the other way to face me or keep going back and forth between what she's doing (in other words turning her back to me and then to me) I wish posters like you either don't respond or read the whole post before responding so you can get the whole picture.

 

[theunflushables]

I think you were too quick with asking for the numbers. I would have said something like "Hey, I'm getting bored, let's go get some coffee."

 

[The Master Disaster]

I think you were too quick with asking for the numbers. I would have said something like "Hey, I'm getting bored, let's go get some coffee."

Yea, I agree with theunflushables.

You should of sparked a convo before being so forward, but even so the IOI's you speak of should of been a clear sign that she wanted to give you her number right there.

It doesn't make sense. "She was sitting erect?"... sounds more like a porno bro.

I mean if she truly gave you that stuff. It just doesn't make sense, why wouldn't even give you her facebook.

The only thing I can think of is maybe you misread her.

 

[dbot]

You read her signals right, don't worry about that. Even if you're in a relationship, that doesn't mean you won't send unconscious buying signals to attractive females.

A word of advice though. Never go straight for the contact info. Never ever ever. Ask for the date first, THEN get her #.

"wanna hang out or grab some coffee sometime?"
"sure."
"cool let me get your number"

That should improve your success rate by leaps and bounds.

 

[jafyk]

You read her signals right, don't worry about that. Even if you're in a relationship, that doesn't mean you won't send unconscious buying signals to attractive females.

A word of advice though. Never go straight for the contact info. Never ever ever. Ask for the date first, THEN get her #.

"wanna hang out or grab some coffee sometime?"
"sure."
"cool let me get your number"

That should improve your success rate by leaps and bounds.

AAAAGH! The person who said guys don't pay attention to detail must be right. Why doesn't anyone answer the most obvious question before doling out advice? The most important question is in the title line. The only reason I told the rest of the story is so that you can get a better understanding of the situation.
My comment on her sitting erect has to do with something in the book I read above. Basically when a woman sits upright it's to call more attention to her features, that's what I meant.
How do I go from just asking a girl her name and if she has facebook to asking for a date. I've barely even made a connection. That to me sounds too soon. My thinking was if she was on facebook and gave me her contact info then I'd have chatted her up and perhaps even asked her out to go do something. I had my headphones on and was listening to music and she kept stealing glances at me. Given what I had read in that book I decided to read her body language and since she was throwing what I thought were IOIs I decided to oblige her. Besides she seemed busy ( I could see books and her typing). I had used this technique before and I got the girl's facebook and chatted with her and got her #. On facebook I could see she was in a relationship. When I did call her some guy picked up I got nervous and asked for the wrong girl. The next time I called she was saying "hello, hello" and even though I was talking back to her it seemed she couldn't hear me or pretended not to. Anyway, I haven't called her again. it's been a few weeks. I don't know if I should just next her.

 

[dbot]

Did you read the first two sentences of my reply? I answered your question, but I'll say it again anyway. Even if you're in a relationship, that doesn't mean you won't send unconscious buying signals to someone you're attracted to. THEY WERE ALL GENUINE IOIs. YOU READ HER CORRECTLY. THIS HAPPENS. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. She was indeed attracted to you, but she wasn't about to pursue it for the reasons she explained (boyfriend). Make sense? A genuine IOI is instinctual/unconscious, meaning if she's sexually attracted to you, she will involuntarily send you the IOI, even if she has no intentions on hooking up with you.

So, to answer your question more clearly: No. There are no IOIs that will also tell you whether or not she has a boyfriend.

 

[DonJuan11]

Is there a sure way to know a genuine IOI from an AW just trying to get an attention?
I am asking this question based on an experience I had a few minutes ago.
I am at my school library using the PC and there's this HB8 sitting right across from me working on the PC with other people around her as well. She makes eye contact, smiles, I make eye contact smile and with draw eye contact. She washes and repeats. I engage her. Next thing she whips out her lip gloss and puts it on and licks her lips and kinds of sits erect to show off her bust and also touches her neck just behind her ears. I'd not have realized some of this signs if I had not read "Undercover Sex Signals" by Leil Lowndes. it's a book about how women give out IOIs (Check it out). Anyway, because the library is a hush hush place and I didn't want to start having a loud conversation from across where I was sitting. So, I sent her a note and this is what transpired. I guess the thing that baffled me is that she showed these IOIs and yet she said she wasn't available.
How can a guy know when it's genuine IOI and avoid an unnecessary tease and rejection?

What do you mean unnecessary tease and rejection? Because she was flirting and having fun she has to sleep with you now? She is not allowed to tease you (or your friend) like that?

However it feels different when a woman sends out signals, like she wants you to talk to her only to turn you down.

She turns you down only because you let her turn you down. Don't blame it on her. It's your fault.

Me: Hey! Howaya? I'm Jafyk and You're? Chelsea. Are you on facebook? No, Sorry

Me: Nice name. Funny that's the name of my favorite soccer club in England. So, how does one get a hold of a lovely lady like you sometime?
e-mail?_ _ _ _ _
# _ _ _ _ _

Her: Well... I don't think my boyfriend would like that! (sad smiley face)Me: Is that so? I didn't know having a bf means you can't get acquainted with new people. That's ok anyway. If I never asked I'd never have known, lol

Her: I'm sorry I'm sure I'ill see you around campus. Have a good day!

she packs up her books and leave without a goodbye. I guess I must have read this one wrong. I only asked for the facebook. So, that if she had one I'd have asked her to get on it and chatter with her for a few. Anyway, your thoughts on this one guys.

So, how does one get a hold of a lovely lady like you sometime?
e-mail?_ _ _ _ _
# _ _ _ _ _

Translation: Where do you live so I can come attack you at night while you are sleeping?

Dude, first of all you have to talk to her directly, library or not. Second, don't ask for facebook. She probably has a site , but even if she did and added you, what good would that do? You would be the 212 guy friend she has and nothing more. Third, if you wish to get together with her, you have to ease your way into it, have something in common to talk about. She may have smiled and put her gloss on in a sexy way because her bf gave her the best oral sex in her life in the morning. Asking out of the blue like that is too awkward and you are more likely to get rejected. Also, you have to have specifics, a time and a date you want to meet her and want you want to do. "Can I get a hold of you sometime?" = "I may phone you if I'm bored on Sat afternoon and Star Trek is not on". That does make her feel important and sexy.

Better would be:

"Perhaps we can meet at the coffeeshop at 5 today, I would love to talk more about (ice skating) with you."

- time + date set
- you are showing genuine interest
- you are identifying with something she likes

Props for trying though.

 

[jafyk]

Did you read the first two sentences of my reply? I answered your question, but I'll say it again anyway. Even if you're in a relationship, that doesn't mean you won't send unconscious buying signals to someone you're attracted to. THEY WERE ALL GENUINE IOIs. YOU READ HER CORRECTLY. THIS HAPPENS. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. She was indeed attracted to you, but she wasn't about to pursue it for the reasons she explained (boyfriend). Make sense? A genuine IOI is instinctual/unconscious, meaning if she's sexually attracted to you, she will involuntarily send you the IOI, even if she has no intentions on hooking up with you.

So, to answer your question more clearly: No. There are no IOIs that will also tell you whether or not she has a boyfriend.

Hey, thanks you're explanation makes sense to a very high degree. Unlike Mr. DonJuan the 11th here who I'm about to respond to in a minute. It's just that according to what I read in that book some of the signals women send out are subconcious and others they purposely send out to get you to approach them.

 

[jafyk]

So, how does one get a hold of a lovely lady like you sometime?
e-mail?_ _ _ _ _
# _ _ _ _ _

Translation: Where do you live so I can come attack you at night while you are sleeping?

Dude, first of all you have to talk to her directly, library or not. Second, don't ask for facebook. She probably has a site , but even if she did and added you, what good would that do? You would be the 212 guy friend she has and nothing more. Third, if you wish to get together with her, you have to ease your way into it, have something in common to talk about. She may have smiled and put her gloss on in a sexy way because her bf gave her the best oral sex in her life in the morning. Asking out of the blue like that is too awkward and you are more likely to get rejected. Also, you have to have specifics, a time and a date you want to meet her and want you want to do. "Can I get a hold of you sometime?" = "I may phone you if I'm bored on Sat afternoon and Star Trek is not on". That does make her feel important and sexy.

Better would be:

"Perhaps we can meet at the coffeeshop at 5 today, I would love to talk more about (ice skating) with you."

- time + date set
- you are showing genuine interest
- you are identifying with something she likes

Props for trying though.

Senior DonJuan the 11th. All I can say is that you have a great sense of imagination and assumption. Otherwise you're reply doesn't make much sense.
1. It's my fault I got turned down? So, whenever a guy gets turned down even by a girl in a relationship it's his fault. If I'm right so far I'd interprete it as you saying it's ok for women to cheat and then guys like you turn around to say how women cheat etc.

2. If I wanted to stalk and attack her I'd not ask for e-mail and phone #. Why do people ask for contact info again? Isn't it to make connection at a later date? I was busy with my stuff. I look up and see her and think she's beautiful. I wasn't seriously thinking of picking her up considering I wasn't in the mood, and I was preoccupied. She just kept up with the IOIs and I decided to pacify her. If something good came out of it great if not it's ok. I figured if I didn't give it a shot I'd never know.

3. If you took time to read what I wrote you would've know why I asked for the facebook given the circumstance. So, I could ask her to get on and have a live chat with her. To express rapport,interest and to get the # without disturbing others. Since she didn't have facebook. I went for the e-mail and # more as a I'ill contact her later seeing that she's busy and I was busy too.

4. If I had taken all your advice above that would make it ok for her to cheat on her BF assuming she indeed had one? I could follow that whole advice and still got nowhere.

5. "Perhaps we can meet at the coffeeshop at 5 today, I would love to talk more about (ice skating) with you." Well, for one I don't like ice skating (I appreciate the gracefulness of it on tv but not in reality) I don't even know this girl, I've not even established a connection and yet I want to take her out to ice skating. Sorry Mr. Don Juan the 11th you lost me. The poster above you made more sense to me.Thanks for trying though. Next time it would be more helpful if you answered "the question" being asked and understanding the context before giving a response.

 

[Young Juan]

Senior DonJuan the 11th. All I can say is that you have a great sense of imagination and assumption. Otherwise you're reply doesn't make much sense.
1. It's my fault I got turned down? So, whenever a guy gets turned down even by a girl in a relationship it's his fault. If I'm right so far I'd interprete it as you saying it's ok for women to cheat and then guys like you turn around to say how women cheat etc.

2. If I wanted to stalk and attack her I'd not ask for e-mail and phone #. Why do people ask for contact info again? Isn't it to make connection at a later date? I was busy with my stuff. I look up and see her and think she's beautiful. I wasn't seriously thinking of picking her up considering I wasn't in the mood, and I was preoccupied. She just kept up with the IOIs and I decided to pacify her. If something good came out of it great if not it's ok. I figured if I didn't give it a shot I'd never know.

3. If you took time to read what I wrote you would've know why I asked for the facebook given the circumstance. So, I could ask her to get on and have a live chat with her. To express rapport,interest and to get the # without disturbing others. Since she didn't have facebook. I went for the e-mail and # more as a I'ill contact her later seeing that she's busy and I was busy too.

4. If I had taken all your advice above that would make it ok for her to cheat on her BF assuming she indeed had one? I could follow that whole advice and still got nowhere.

5. "Perhaps we can meet at the coffeeshop at 5 today, I would love to talk more about (ice skating) with you." Well, for one I don't like ice skating (I appreciate the gracefulness of it on tv but not in reality) I don't even know this girl, I've not even established a connection and yet I want to take her out to ice skating. Sorry Mr. Don Juan the 11th you lost me. The poster above you made more sense to me.Thanks for trying though. Next time it would be more helpful if you answered "the question" being asked and understanding the context before giving a response.

Sorry, but I'm going to have to overturn that decision, based on the level of *****assness commited, IMHO.

1. Have some balls, heterosexual women like balls. She freshened herself up because she thought you were going to walk over to her and approach her like a real man. She was interested until you showed your *****assness by sending that note. - 2 for you.

2. Did you really ask for a number without developing any rapport? If you had of actually walked up to her and had that 30 second convo, there's a chance you might've got her number. But you IMed this girl, said hello, I like your name, can I get your number? R U Serious? - 2 for you.

3-5. If the chick isn't married, she's legally single. Humans almost always want the BBD - the Bigger Better Deal. I was fvcking a chick for a whole year before her boyfriend of 3 years found out I was fvcking her, & I found out she had a boyfriend! You know what her logic was? ITS JUST SEX! IF YOU ARE THE BBD, SHE WILL NOT EVEN MENTION HER BOYFRIEND!

She was game, but you tried to bunt a fastball straight down the middle. You gotta know when to swing for the fences.

Just to recap the answer to your question:

She was genuinely interested when she thought you were a man, she was turned off when she discovered you were a boy. I'm sure Chelsea isn't even her real name.

Learn from it, Laugh over it, don't let it happen again.

 

[dbot]

unconscious buying signals indicate her attraction, not her availability. Deliberate IOIs indicate availability, but she could be sending them for any number of reasons.

If you know what you're doing, you could pretty much pick up any chick regardless of her availability (married, seeing someone, doesn't matter). But unless you have your sh*t together, don't bother approaching without some indicator of positive interest and intent.

 

[jafyk]

Sorry, but I'm going to have to overturn that decision, based on the level of *****assness commited, IMHO.

1. Have some balls, heterosexual women like balls. She freshened herself up because she thought you were going to walk over to her and approach her like a real man. She was interested until you showed your *****assness by sending that note. - 2 for you.

2. Did you really ask for a number without developing any rapport? If you had of actually walked up to her and had that 30 second convo, there's a chance you might've got her number. But you IMed this girl, said hello, I like your name, can I get your number? R U Serious? - 2 for you.

3-5. If the chick isn't married, she's legally single. Humans almost always want the BBD - the Bigger Better Deal. I was fvcking a chick for a whole year before her boyfriend of 3 years found out I was fvcking her, & I found out she had a boyfriend! You know what her logic was? ITS JUST SEX! IF YOU ARE THE BBD, SHE WILL NOT EVEN MENTION HER BOYFRIEND!

She was game, but you tried to bunt a fastball straight down the middle. You gotta know when to swing for the fences.

Just to recap the answer to your question:

She was genuinely interested when she thought you were a man, she was turned off when she discovered you were a boy. I'm sure Chelsea isn't even her real name.

Learn from it, Laugh over it, don't let it happen again.

You are daft idiot, perhaps you should learn to read and when you do learn to do so read in context. I didn't IM the girl.In other words I should've left was I was doing to go stand behind her and have a conversation when 2 people where sitting on either side of her. Oh and keep in mind she was doing her school work. The way I picture it. She'd be sitting and perhaps turning to me to talk and then turning back to type some more,while I'm standing.This was 1 of many countless situations of approaching a girl. Yeah, it was passive on my part I concede. Still if you read to understand the in which context everything transpired you'd have seen where I was coming from instead of sitting on your high horse and trying to call me a boy. Fact is that I'm busy and # closed many girls and really not always in the mood to keep up with all of them. It seems some A holes like you come on here just to put others down. Instead of answering the question that was posed. It's not of great importance that she turned me down. In the dating game you win some you loose some. You experiment on tactics to see what works and what doesn't. Engaging her for me was out of courtesy(due to her continuos IOIs), practise and curiosity not an intense desire to score.
Let's even take a look at another situation from 2 weeks ago. I met a girl in the commons area after class. She seemed to be studying. I approached her, chatted her up for a good decent amount of time and she reciprocated. Asked for the # and she tells me she was married. I had seen her ring but it didn't look like the normal wedding ring cos it had no diamond. Then 2 days ago I had a girl over at my place cooked for her and enjoyed her company and even kissed her but really who cares anyway?
As for you suggesting F'ing a girl with a BF. What you're suggesting is that it's ok to cheat? yet guys come here ranting about how some girl cheated on them etc. Well, I've been down that road before with Preacher's wife. My only justification is that he was abusive to her and cheating on her and I thought why not and she was an HB8.5. While such offers are tempting. I wouldn't like my GF to cheat on me. So, I have reservations on doing the same thing to someone else

 

[MisterMcGee]

Proximity is enough to invite her to hang out sometime. Well, actually, the tables turn when the girl is in a social circle of yours. This is when things get complicated; you aren't afraid of being rejected by her, you're afraid of the consequences.
This is why working the 'set' is important as ever. Make sure you're on a good footing with the people in the social circle, so if she rejects you, you won't be the black sheep. If you know what I'm saying.

 

[jafyk]

Proximity is enough to invite her to hang out sometime. Well, actually, the tables turn when the girl is in a social circle of yours. This is when things get complicated; you aren't afraid of being rejected by her, you're afraid of the consequences.
This is why working the 'set' is important as ever. Make sure you're on a good footing with the people in the social circle, so if she rejects you, you won't be the black sheep. If you know what I'm saying.

I think I get what you're saying but in the situation I described it doesn't apply because this wasn't a social circle. Let me try to paint a clearer picture for you.
I'm in a library with 4 rows of computers. I was in the middle row 2 rows faced each other. the other 2 outside rows face the opposite ways. These rows of PCs are filled with strangers who have no social commonality besides theri education. I hope this helps.
Sometimes I see a girl I like depending on my mood and the situation e.g party approaching is easy, casual and pleasant. Other times I see a girl I like but there's really no reason to approach her (in such cases I make up some stupid reason to make contact) and in such situations I'm a bit nervous but if I keep getting this nagging feeling inside. I say let me just get it over with. Other times like this library situation, I'm really not on the hunt so I just passively look without much motivation. Her IOIs motivated me on this one. I could've just over looked her and continued with what I was doing but I felt if this girl was showing interest the least I could do is reciprocate and see where it leads. In this case it lead to nowhere. The same situation lead to me chatting up the girl that isntant on facebook and getting her #

 

[MisterMcGee]

I understood your situation and we already talked about it here, so I felt it would be good to continue the discussion relating to the topic's subject rather than your specific case, but if you want to dwell on it more then be my guest.

 

[DonJuan11]

1. It's my fault I got turned down? So, whenever a guy gets turned down even by a girl in a relationship it's his fault. If I'm right so far I'd interprete it as you saying it's ok for women to cheat and then guys like you turn around to say how women cheat etc.

You are confusing the issue. You cannot blame a girl for giving you interest but then shutting you down, as you did not do a good enough job to turn her on, in the same way you cannot tell the professor to give you an A because she said you were smart during the day of the test, even though you didn't pass.

When you say "I don't understand when a girl gives me lots of IOI but then shuts me down", again it's probably because you didn't give her a good enough reason not to shut you down. She could give you 9 out of 10 strong IOI's, but if you don't hit the 10th one with her, you are out like a trout.


2. If I wanted to stalk and attack her I'd not ask for e-mail and phone #. Why do people ask for contact info again? Isn't it to make connection at a later date?

It is too abrupt to ask for contact info like that. Put yourself in her position, a guy wants to know my name, phone number, and email after some flirty smiling? I don't even give that information to my bank. You also don't know anything about her other than she's hot and you have nothing in common.

3. If you took time to read what I wrote you would've know why I asked for the facebook given the circumstance. So, I could ask her to get on and have a live chat with her. To express rapport,interest and to get the # without disturbing others. Since she didn't have facebook. I went for the e-mail and # more as a I'ill contact her later seeing that she's busy and I was busy too.

If she had given you facebook, there are way too many unknowns and variables for you to connect with her again. In the future, you have to have a time and date with something specific to do with the girl.

4. If I had taken all your advice above that would make it ok for her to cheat on her BF assuming she indeed had one? I could follow that whole advice and still got nowhere.

Having a boyfriend is also an easy answer to "how do I get a hold you sometime?" when you don't know anything about the girl other than her first name.

5. "Perhaps we can meet at the coffeeshop at 5 today, I would love to talk more about (ice skating) with you." Well, for one I don't like ice skating (I appreciate the gracefulness of it on tv but not in reality) I don't even know this girl, I've not even established a connection and yet I want to take her out to ice skating. Sorry Mr. Don Juan the 11th you lost me.

Not the point about ice skating, it was an example of something specific to do with her. You also answered you own question, "I've not even established a connection, but I want her name and phone number because she's hot."

 

[Young Juan]

You are daft idiot, perhaps you should learn to read and when you do learn to do so read in context. I didn't IM the girl.In other words I should've left was I was doing to go stand behind her and have a conversation when 2 people where sitting on either side of her. Oh and keep in mind she was doing her school work. The way I picture it. She'd be sitting and perhaps turning to me to talk and then turning back to type some more,while I'm standing.

First off, I never attempt to put anyone down, just tough love because I want everyone here to be successful to the best of their abilities. I admit, I may have come off somewhat harsh, but I take back nothing.

2nd. "In other words...." Yes. You're thinking way too much here. I was really hoping you meant an IM because passing notes was cool in high school, and in college lecture courses, but a null outside of that, In My Humble Opinion. Nonetheless, you may have success with it, in which case, more power to you. Just not for me. God Bless Earth.

Lastly, the way you picture it tells me something else, (*disclaimer* I know I'm jumping to conclusions here, so no need to tell me about it, rather just agree to disagree and state your dissenting opinion if needed) subconsciously, you have issues about being the center of attention, don't believe a female would give you her undivided attention based on your personality and/or looks, as well as the possibility of other self confidence issues being in existence.

The more and more you provide excuses the more it seems like you were simply afraid to get publicly rejected in earshot of 5 times as many people as normal due to proximity and the way below average noise levels in a library. Nonetheless, I know women that are turned on by the guy that approaches, gets rejected, and still walks away confidently. I've picked up that woman.

As far as cheating? I didn't mean it was ok, but rather that there are a large population of females that will fvck you first, tell you they have a boyfriend second, and what can you really do about that? I'm not talking married, because MARRIED IS NOT LEGALLY SINGLE. Having A BOYFRIEND IS LEGALLY SINGLE.

Finally, to bluntly answer your question in a way I hope you can appreciate: Categorically, NO!

I smile, wink, and run game on fat girls I never have intentions of fvcking sometimes just to see how it feels to be an attention *****. And you know what? The fat girls start thinking I really like them, start having random conversations with me, get my number from friends of friends, call me on BS excuses to conversate, etc. Its actually pretty annoying and really doesn't boost my ego because I knew these fat girls liked me before I even knew their names. Nonetheless, I doubt these fat girls know that until my actions begin to speak louder than my words.

Did I answer your questions?

 

[MisterMcGee]

I do that sometimes to girls in one of my social circles just cause I like one of the girls that is in it. Being the 'hot guy' in the group is a good thing, and when you finally make a move on the target girl, even if she rejects you, the girls who like you will be on your side.