Is the term "bisexual" a fallacy?

[KarmaSutra]

Look man I know you pride yourself on being an "evolved" person but trashing other peoples' religions is not cool. It wouldn't be tolerated if you spoke about Jewish people or Islamic people that way.

First, neither of them were talking from any other standpoint other than the "up on high" X-tian point of view. If Jewish people spake that bullsh!t about everyone going to Hell for not believing their crap I would lump them in. Islamic people just blow sh!t up.

Just because someone ENJOYS something does not make it right. What about pedophiles? What about the Catholic priests you mentioned? How can you call them perverted for doing something they enjoy? Is that not what you're saying that if someone sexually enjoys what they do that it should be tolerated regardless of what it is?

This is absolute narrowmindedness and obvious you can't think for yourself. In order for sex to be mutually enjoyable BOTH parties must get pleasure from it (grab a fvcking dictionary and look it up then make it a habit). Do the boys the priests diddle get pleasure from it? That would be a fvck no. And the reason I talk so much about Catholics is that I was raised one. Experience talks, start walking Jack.

 

[Ever onward]

This is absolute narrowmindedness and obvious you can't think for yourself. In order for sex to be mutually enjoyable BOTH parties must get pleasure from it (grab a fvcking dictionary and look it up then make it a habit). Do the boys the priests diddle get pleasure from it? That would be a fvck no. And the reason I talk so much about Catholics is that I was raised one. Experience talks, start walking Jack.

And what about the cases in which female school teachers have sex with 13 year old boys? I assume the boys enjoy it. Does that make it any less perverted?

You have a lot of anger in you. When someone resorts to insults it's a sure sign they know they've lost the argument.

 

[drak_ool]

And what about the cases in which female school teachers have sex with 13 year old boys? I assume the boys enjoy it. Does that make it any less perverted?

of course :rockon: i wish i shagged my teacher when i was 13...

think about it: if a 14 year old (let s raise the age a bit) boy bangs his 14 year old gf is it ok? so what if his gf is 24-25? to him it s still a pvssy right?

or are you jealous of these boys? :nono:

 

[KarmaSutra]

You have a lot of anger in you. When someone resorts to insults it's a sure sign they know they've lost the argument.

Don't ever mistake passion for anger. I take offense when people are contradicting just to do it. That, Sir, is offensive and blazes the trail for idiocy.

 

[Pimp101]

Honestly, I'm starting to think that some of you have psychological issues from the way you're so fixated on masculinity. Don't get me wrong, theres nothing bad about embracing the fact that you're a man but the way some of you (especially LMS) talk about it makes me think that you're trying to cover something up. Or maybe you've been brainwashed. Or maybe you're trying to rebel against the direction our culture is headed. Either way, from speaking to a few gay people I've realised that they are otherwise the same as you and me. They are not in any way fvcked up in the head.

This reminds me so much of the stance society takes towards drug users. The way they make them out to be something that isn't human. They're still just people. Seriously, grow the fvck up and drop this "us versus them" bullsh!t. Someone half your age shouldn't have to tell you this.

 

[KarmaSutra]

Honestly, I'm starting to think that some of you have psychological issues from the way you're so fixated on masculinity. Don't get me wrong, theres nothing bad about embracing the fact that you're a man but the way some of you (especially LMS) talk about it makes me think that you're trying to cover something up. Or maybe you've been brainwashed. Or maybe you're trying to rebel against the direction our culture is headed. Either way, from speaking to a few gay people I've realised that they are otherwise the same as you and me. They are not in any way fvcked up in the head.

This reminds me so much of the stance society takes towards drug users. The way they make them out to be something that isn't human. They're still just people. Seriously, grow the fvck up and drop this "us versus them" bullsh!t. Someone half your age shouldn't have to tell you this.

Well look at that, a free thinking brother who sees people for what they are.

Carry on soldier.

 

[Ever onward]

Or maybe you're trying to rebel against the direction our culture is headed.

I completely don't like where our culture is headed. Have you noticed how fvcked up our world is getting?

I may have come off as "anti-gay" in some of my posts. That's not really the case. People can do whatever the hell they want, it's none of my business if it doesn't effect me.

What does bother me is where our culture is headed, as you put it. We're becoming a world where "if it feels good, do it" dictates society.

 

[Last Man Standing]

Wow, I never knew that - Homos are people too?? Thanks man, for the revelation!!!

Perverts are not to be honored or respected for their perversions - they are to be condemned, chastised and corrected!! Only a corrupt person/mind embraces corrupt acts!!

Why do you guys hate good so much and love evil?? Are you satanists?

 

[princelydeeds]

Someone half your age shouldn't have to tell you this.

It is very difficult to argue with someone who is 21 because you simply do not have the experience to go along with your passion, compassion and love for life. When we are very young idealism overrides reality. The things that I saw as messed up at 21 are worlds apart from the things i see as messed up at 33. At 21 i thought i could help everyone, at 33 I realize I can't help someone who does not want to be helped.

I base my comments solely on my personal experience. I know lots of gay people and every single one of them has some kind of deeper issue. The issues range from my daddy doesn't love me, to kissing other girls gets me attention, no girl/guy will love me so I am going to seek love from the same sex and the list goes on. People are messed up in the head! I am not condemning gay people. I do not care what two gay people do in their personal lives. I do speak a simple truth bred of my experience.

I have even had my suspicion/experience confirmed by several shrinks and therapists, though they would not say it publicly out of fear of the PC media/world/government.

 

[Rhoto]

Bisexuality it seems very odd because I can't understand how a person's desire changes. In my experience, growing up in the City by the Bay, you're either straight or gay, and nothing is really going to change that. I don't think you're wired to wake up one day wanting women, then waking up the next looking for a guy.

Ask a man who says he's bisexual, when is the last time he had sex with a woman?

Masculinity suggests confidence in the face of fear or danger. Not where you stick your reproductive parts.

 

[Pimp101]

It is very difficult to argue with someone who is 21 because you simply do not have the experience to go along with your passion, compassion and love for life. When we are very young idealism overrides reality. The things that I saw as messed up at 21 are worlds apart from the things i see as messed up at 33. At 21 i thought i could help everyone, at 33 I realize I can't help someone who does not want to be helped.

I base my comments solely on my personal experience. I know lots of gay people and every single one of them has some kind of deeper issue. The issues range from my daddy doesn't love me, to kissing other girls gets me attention, no girl/guy will love me so I am going to seek love from the same sex and the list goes on. People are messed up in the head! I am not condemning gay people. I do not care what two gay people do in their personal lives. I do speak a simple truth bred of my experience.

I have even had my suspicion/experience confirmed by several shrinks and therapists, though they would not say it publicly out of fear of the PC media/world/government.

I know exactly what you mean by this. I agree with you that a large part of the gay community and more importantly people as a whole are not psychologically healthy. At the same time there seem to be gays who are otherwise completely normal. If you extend this trend to society as a whole its the same picture with a less skewed demographic. I think that its the same thing with drug users for example. A lot of them are escaping from problems like depression and anxiety but there are also sane people who indulge. The point I'm trying to make is that it depends. Most gays have issues, some don't. Most people have issues, some don't. Either way you can't say that ALL gays have issues the same way that you can't say that ALL people have issues - its simply not true.

My original argument was that demonizing them is childish, especially if they do indeed have problems - how is hate going to help anyone?

Don't start thinking that I believe that I can help everybody, I only try to open doors for people, not push them. Takes a whole lot of frustration to get to that point, huh?

 

[Mr. Wolf]

Bingo!


I'll go as far as saying that there is no such thing as straight, gay, lesbian, or bi. Only what you like, dominant, like to fvck women, or men. Submissive, like a woman or man to fvck you. Dominant-submissive, afraid or does not want to be one or the other and is in the middle, practicing, safe and socially approved sex.

Just because you're one, does not mean you can be the other. For example, if most of you jerked off until the age of 20, that's a-sexual, then you start banging women, that's straight, and some of you are doing both men and women, that's bi-sexual.. Thus, in a way, Ever onward is right on target. Except that I don't agree with terms like straight, bi, or gay.. Those are old religious terms that explain things in terms of reproduction. Who cares!

 

[Don Juanabbe]

Wow, I never knew that - Homos are people too?? Thanks man, for the revelation!!!

Perverts are not to be honored or respected for their perversions - they are to be condemned, chastised and corrected!! Only a corrupt person/mind embraces corrupt acts!!

Why do you guys hate good so much and love evil?? Are you satanists?

Many in the younger generation have been corrupted by this evil. Just look at some of the posts on here. I never heard people speak like this until the last 10 years or so.

The bar has indeed been lowered.

 

[Don Juanabbe]

Jesus-thefvckbastard-Christ, another dogmatic Christian who believes everything was made in 6 days. You and LMS are brainwashed fools. We live in an EVOLVED society (I know EVOLVE is not a word you X-tians believe is a real word but it is and it's thriving). Lest you both forget it was the early X-tians and Catholics who fvck young boys and had them castrated in order to keep thier voices from breaking. Catholicism is the main reason people do not believe religion is viable as liberation and true redemption. When you shuttle priests around to different parts of the world so they can finger boys and then sniff each others fingers to compare stinks, it's very very difficult to trust in that megalomaniacal bullsh!t.

The reason I believe men enter the clergy is because they have shade so they can live out thier homosexuality without judgement then go out for 3 hours a week and spout about how much gays will go to "Hell". Then when mass is done they have a seat on the baloney pony, say five hail mary's and start a new week.

Fvck you both and your immaturity. I am not gay or have any persuasion to it but I have 2 very close friends within my circle who are the most loyal, law abiding, caring, thoughtful, and non-judgemental people I've ever had the pleasure to know and trust.

How dare you clowns put people down for what they enjoy. Does it frighten your sense of "masculinity" by doing so? Does it make you feel superior? It shouldn't. Know this, Some male in each of your families has sucked a c0ck and taken said c0ck up his dirtchute then you've kissed him at a family gathering. So, since you've kissed a guy who's done that doesn't that make you a d!ck and nut sucker by-proxy?

That last paragraph is one of the most disgusting things I've seen posted on this website, tell me, do you talk to women like that?

Thanks for the graphic imagery, you obviously know what you are talking about when it comes to sodomy.

 

[Colossus]

Evidence that God exists? Evidence that free choice exists? Both are impossible by current laws of physics.

God does not exist. Free choice does not exist. Everything you do is a product of chemical and physical reactions which are determined by productions of chemicals determined by your DNA and influenced by the environment with catalysts and triggers of reactions in your body and outside of it from the environment and your DNA.

I cant give you evidence that God exists. It's not my job to convince you either. You've made a choice not to believe in a God. You made a choice not to accept anything there is not physical evidence for. Show me evidence that God does not exist. Explain to me what caused the 'bang' which started the extrapolated theory of evolution. Reply to this post. Or dont reply to it. Either way you made a choice.

 

[KarmaSutra]

That last paragraph is one of the most disgusting things I've seen posted on this website, tell me, do you talk to women like that?

Thanks for the graphic imagery, you obviously know what you are talking about when it comes to sodomy.

Luckily I haven't met a woman as ignorant as some of you c0cksuckers. Glad I was able to touch a nerve.

 

[Don Juanabbe]

You're obsessed with nobs getting sucked, you mention it every other sentence.

 

[martinM.]

There is such thing as bi-sexuality. Some bi sexual men prefer women to men, some men to women, some equal. People are different, human sexuality is not always so clear cut.


I see some people here lump homosexuality with phedophillia. These are two completely different things and should not be confused.

 

[Ever onward]

Luckily I haven't met a woman as ignorant as some of you c0cksuckers. Glad I was able to touch a nerve.

Karma,

Maybe I'm being 'homophobic' here but when you say c0cksucker are you not referring to gay guys? Therefore by using the term as an insult you are coming off as anti-gay. Not too open minded old buddy...

I see some people here lump homosexuality with phedophillia. These are two completely different things and should not be confused.

martinM

I was the one that made that comparison. I wasn't lumping them together. My point was that homosexuals don't choose to have their sexual desires and neither do pedophiles. Pedophiles are discouraged from engaging in their urges but homosexuals are not.

 

[KarmaSutra]

Karma,

Maybe I'm being 'homophobic' here but when you say c0cksucker are you not referring to gay guys? Therefore by using the term as an insult you are coming off as anti-gay. Not too open minded old buddy...

I am not slandering gay people whatsoever. They are some of the most tolerant, open minded people you'll ever encounter. Once you fvcks get your heads out of your collective asses you'll learn that it's true. I use the term
c0cksucker because it strikes a nerve and jumbles up your sense of "masculinity".

Very open minded young buddy. . .

Your argument is white bread sh!t and you know it.