is the picture the most important thing online?

[Yapper]

whoa, I fail HORRIBLY at online game. I tried it a bit on craigslist, facebook, and plentyoffish. There aren't a whole lot of girls on those sites that I am interested in to begin with and I guess the competition is pretty fierce. But whoa, I try to be unique and relevant in my messages, and I rarely get a response. When I do manage to exchange a few e-mails, at some point they just stop responding. Nothing has ever come of it. It doesn't seem like anybody's actually serious about meeting.

Now usually I just send an unimpressive, self-taken face shot. I wonder if it could be just bad pictures or if it's more to do with my game.

Anybody actually manage to consistently meet girls online? Do you just spam hundreds of chicks (I'd rather not bother), or are there some secrets that I don't know?

 

[muscleman]

You missed the #1 site: myspace. You also missed the tips article about myspace: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=122518

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Well, there are two ways about it, one way is to put a profile WITHOUT any picture, change your name, and do whatever your doing and see if there is any change of result. It's all a matter of experimentation. Take new photos, put it up. Whatever.

The reality is online dating is rigged off - gals tend to have too much choice and often have lots of emails in their box to shift through a day, while guys often may have to send dozens of emails to get a single reply.

What I have done in the past was read through the target's profile, and find some sort of common ground, and tailor some message together. On plentyfoffish, see if the person read your letter and if they deleted it. If they read it, but did not delete it, but didn't reply to you, then send another message again. Don't give up, send a few messages.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

You know, come to think of it, I do recall a post from someone on here that said, when they put up a pic of themselves up, where they had allot of muscles and looked well built they got LOTS of interest.

I think you are right on, the pic does make a sizable difference, and if you have really good pics where you look like a popular well-built stud, and make a few different poses, then it should make a difference in response.

There is this e-book from http://www.net2bed.com that I was thinking of buying myself, it has a 60 day money back guarantee, so there is nothing to lose on it.

 

[rrrrr]

Mi pics get around 7.5 on hotornot.com, so I am "OK".

Nobody looks at my profile, I "spam" by flirting or whatever they call it, and the only ones who respond, or even look at me, are 4-5.5 ratings on hotornot.com, or the scam artists. I'd say virtually all attractive women profiles on americansingles.com are scam artists.

I know this guy that met 3-4 girls online over a few months. I met one of the girls he met and thought she was OK, but everyone else, including him, thought she was a dog.

I seriously think you are going to have to go down a few points online. That is, if you are "average" you can only attract "below average" or worse. If you are waay good looking maybe then you can get anyboy's interest. If you are an 8 you're only going to be able to get 5-6 online.

That's what I've seen at least. NOT a good deal. I couldn't understand why girls don't care for me online. Of course my pics aren't the best but I did that for a reason.

 

[Obsidian]

Mi pics get around 7.5 on hotornot.com, so I am "OK".

you're not ok, you're hotter than 75% of the people who are willing to put their pics on there -- which is well above average. (And if you think about it, the really ugly people are probably less likely to put their pics up at all.)

that said, i should include the disclaimer that LOOKS DON'T MATTER.

 

[ryannath]

I'm a 7.9 on hotornot. It won't let me send messages on there though for some reason. Someone on here the other day said they allow that now, so maybe I could be wrong. I have not been on there in awhile. I use the same pic that scored 7.9 on myspace and I have had a few girls wanting to talk to me from myspace and have actually met one.

 

[mikeyb]

I like hotornot better than the other sites not only because you get a chance to experiment with different pictures and get feedback from the same women you might be interested in, but also because the way the system works ensures that if a woman clicks "yes" to you, that means you pass her minimum physical standards.
That said, you have to experiment with different pics. The first one I posted got a 6 while the latest got a 9. Truth be told, I probably deserve a 7. Play with lighting, haircuts, clothes, and try to get a picture with other people.

Now I wouldn't say that I consistently meet girls in person that I meet online, mostly because the ones I'm interested in tend to live farther away and so I want to get to know them better before going on a 3-hour train ride. But in 3 months I've met one girl so far and had some webcam fun with another, so I'd say I've had a modest amount of success. Now for the advice: Act online no differently than you would if you were picking up a girl on the street. Well, OK, one difference is that in most cases you'll know a little something about the girl from her profile. But apart from that, you want to keep most other things the same. One exception: I find that sexual innuendo doesn't work very well online, but maybe that's just me.

 

[Jason88]

I like hotornot better than the other sites not only because you get a chance to experiment with different pictures and get feedback from the same women you might be interested in, but also because the way the system works ensures that if a woman clicks "yes" to you, that means you pass her minimum physical standards.
That said, you have to experiment with different pics. The first one I posted got a 6 while the latest got a 9. Truth be told, I probably deserve a 7. Play with lighting, haircuts, clothes, and try to get a picture with other people.
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I'm really glad you brought that up. I'm really into photography and you're right. I bet I can take almost any guy or girl, and with the proper lighting, camera angles, and clothes and consistently bang out at least a 9 rating on hot or not.

 

[Docs]

One is picture (7.2 here).
Two, add her to msn and blow her away with game. I'm rolling in fun right now, lol. One girl wants to see me, like...almost teethering on love...the other was hardcore flirting, lol

 

[afc_2_dj]

Well, I am not photogenic, seriously I look terrible in pics.
I tried the online thing with no pics, most girls require pics [looks] as non-negotialble, but not all. However I did find that whilst I got to first date, it never went further.

I recently got a couple of pics taken at random, and for once actually look better in the pics than real life!! I posted them as private, hence I choose when to share them, interestingly I find now my "drop-out rate"; people who just stop writing; is much higher once I share my pics then before when there was no pic. I leave it as an excerise to draw conclusions!!

But yes, given that most girls insist on looks/pic, I would say a good pic is the most important thing, but won't help if you are not as attractive as other guys on the site.