Is the perfect married life a reality or a pipe dream?

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This is what a happy married life entails

Both you and your wife are very attractive, fit and healthy until forever
You have 1 kid, who is awesome
You still have sex 4-5 times a week
Don't ***** or fight over nonsense
Still get excited to see each other
Obviously still have disagreements but always figure out a way to get over it without too much squabbling

Is this a reality or just a pipe dream?
 

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This is what a happy married life entails

Both you and your wife are very attractive, fit and healthy until forever
You have 1 kid, who is awesome
You still have sex 4-5 times a week
Don't ***** or fight over nonsense
Still get excited to see each other


Is this a reality or just a pipe dream?
It can be. You won't ever get there until you establish yourself as a high value male in the GAME. The other way is to find a virgin or near virgin whose not in the game...
 

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Stop seeking that. Things are done a certain way. Get to the point where females are trying to force exclusivity.
 

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This is what a happy married life entails

Both you and your wife are very attractive, fit and healthy until forever
I bet there are unattractive people who are married that were lonely, and just appreciate each other.

But nothing in life is perfect, and that includes marriage. I think a lot of men realize that going in. But their wives actually EXPECT the fantasy, and then get resentful when they don't get it. And that kills a lot of marriages right there, especially when the legal system rewards the woman for filing for divorce.
 

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I bet there are unattractive people who are married that were lonely, and just appreciate each other.

But nothing in life is perfect, and that includes marriage. I think a lot of men realize that going in. But their wives actually EXPECT the fantasy, and then get resentful when they don't get it. And that kills a lot of marriages right there, especially when the legal system rewards the woman for filing for divorce.
Are these same wives who want the "fantasy" willing to give or add to the fantasy ?
 

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This is what a happy married life entails

Both you and your wife are very attractive, fit and healthy until forever
You have 1 kid, who is awesome
You still have sex 4-5 times a week
Don't ***** or fight over nonsense
Still get excited to see each other
Obviously still have disagreements but always figure out a way to get over it without too much squabbling

Is this a reality or just a pipe dream?
It’s possible. However, it takes two individuals in a relationship to know happiness or love is not extrinsic, but rather it is intrinsic and therefore existing within and shared outwardly.
Most people will not have this ideal companionship because they make their partner responsible for their self consciousness or untreated emotional wounds. They have expectations of how someone should behave. They don’t take responsibility for their lives. In a relationship people think it’s 50/50. That’s false. It’s 100/100. The second you start expecting and not being 100 percent you is when things go south.

This is why it’s super important to cultivate yourself and build internal value. Because then you will be able to discern someone who is weak and needy from someone who is strong and simply just wants to share their walking experiences with you.

—- example —-
My friend this past weekend was trying to make plans with her *new* boyfriend. He stated he was busy and would let her know. She didn’t have other options to hangout with people and she sent him a message saying he needs to take responsibility and let her know in a non eloquent way. This literally made no sense. She asked me my advice and I told her she was wrong and needs to apologize. And it’s her that needs to take responsibility for her life.

She eventually apologizes to him and he apologized for his behaviour of not being more appeasing (no reason to apologize). Over the weekend he asks her to his gf. They’re now dating. What this story is... is two people who started off dependent on each other. And it will not likely change until their unhappiness becomes too overwhelming and they breakup after many more ‘fights’. They don’t actually like each other in my mind, they simply don’t have many options otherwise and are needy for validation.
Not to mention they are neighbours living across the hall from each other. So there’s literally zero space right from the start.
Most relationships are born out of weakness and they maintain that weakness throughout.
 

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Is this a reality or just a pipe dream?
Depends what you make it. You need to find the right partner and you need to put in your part of the work necessary to make it happen.

Usually this dream fails because either or both parts of the relationship expect the other to pull the load. In the case of one part pulling the load they get resentful and leave as the other part doesn't cooperate. In the case of both not doing sh!t to make it happen it ends in a blame war where both are equally blind to their own shortcomings.

A surprising amount of people expect to just meet the right one and then everything just falls into place and fixes itself. That's bullsh!t, the perfect marriage requires continuous maintenance.

There is no time in life where you can chill out, not think about anything ever again and remain happy, whether you're single or married or anything in between.
 

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Depends what you make it. You need to find the right partner and you need to put in your part of the work necessary to make it happen.

Usually this dream fails because either or both parts of the relationship expect the other to pull the load. In the case of one part pulling the load they get resentful and leave as the other part doesn't cooperate. In the case of both not doing sh!t to make it happen it ends in a blame war where both are equally blind to their own shortcomings.

A surprising amount of people expect to just meet the right one and then everything just falls into place and fixes itself. That's bullsh!t, the perfect marriage requires continuous maintenance.

There is no time in life where you can chill out, not think about anything ever again and remain happy, whether you're single or married or anything in between.
Yup. It’s almost like maintaining a nice physique. It requires daily effort and mindfulness to stay in shape. When one meets the right person, that strong work ethic doesn’t stop, it has to continue.

People search and search for their ideals, not realizing that their ideals are actually a construct of their own doing from daily practice. Passion and love is cultivated by effort. It’s not just... there.

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Yup. It’s almost like maintaining a nice physique. It requires daily effort and mindfulness to stay in shape. When one meets the right person, that strong work ethic doesn’t stop, it has to continue.
I see multiple members on this forum who expect a high standard on women, but don't exactly live up to that level of quality themselves. Not that many of them even seek relationships, but still the hypocrisy disgusts me.

For many guys the go to after a break up is "go NC and hit the gym". While I'm for that, rarely is it explored whether the guy experiencing the break up actually could have done better. Then we sit here circlejerking about how the girl is to be blamed. While I don't deny that in many cases they do deserve some blame, I think the guys side of it is toned down way too much.

What I'm reading about on the forum these days is mostly sh!t compared to 15 year old posts. Where did Pook's "focus on yourself" go? I always took that to mean not getting hung up on the sh!tty side of women and rather focus entirely on oneself, because we can't change the world but we have sovereignty over ourselves. But here we are posting threads about women this, women that, feminism this and feminism that. I see a bunch of blaming on things way way larger than ourselves and it's an activity we have nothing to gain from.

A man doesn't meet the right woman before he is the right man. So when guys b!tch about women they're quite far away from being the right man.
 

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It's possible. But ive learned to stop seeking it. Work on creating the best version of yourself and everything else will fall into place.
 

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Yes a perfect marriage can exist.

The 1st step to a perfect marriage is acknowledging that Physical appearence goes down with age (for both male and female). And you'll need ''other attractive feature like a heart and a brain''

However, doesn't seems to be in OP scenario... since they are fit for ever...

I do see 90 years old people at my gym that are more in shape (they use heavier weight and run more hours) than the jacked 6.4 feet young guy but I wouldn't call them ''attractive'' since he body is still going down/showing their age.

Everyone age!
Nature is a B!tch

Note: I've posted it here before... but I saw a couple who was clearly over 60years+ maybe 70's... the Women was still stunning and look 40 top... the guy was pretty average. It was in a restaurant... the guy started signing jazz songs with his mouth (humming the beat)... it was 1 song per year of marriage. The wife was all over her husband of at least 40 years (and joining the rythm he was making)...The restaurant (the clients, the kitchen, the waiters, even the people coming in) just froze to admire them. After 20 minutes, everyone clapped and they got free deserts
 
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This is what a happy married life entails

Both you and your wife are very attractive, fit and healthy until forever
You have 1 kid, who is awesome
You still have sex 4-5 times a week
Don't ***** or fight over nonsense
Still get excited to see each other
Obviously still have disagreements but always figure out a way to get over it without too much squabbling

Is this a reality or just a pipe dream?
A happily married life entails realistic expectations. You don't have realistic expectations for yourself or the woman you want to date much less marry so you may want to work on those things first.

Because that Barbie and Ken marriage you described doesn't exist.

If you really want to know how to have a good marriage, go visit an old folk's home and talk to married couples. It will put a lot of stuff discussed here into perspective.
 

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You can read women and buddhist sillyness, OR you can read a guy like @LiveFreeX on here who went and did it on his own terms.
Or you can take the best of two worlds. @LiveFreeX probably did whatever the fvck he wanted on his terms, but that's not always a great idea. Anyone can be a dumb fvck and always do whatever they please when they please, but often they end up in jail or at least resented by practically everyone for it.

You're presenting a false dichotomy, it's 2 extremes and neither requires any thought and neither is a good idea. If only people used their brains and did some actual thinking, instead they go one way or the other choosing from 2 extreme options.
 

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I see multiple members on this forum who expect a high standard on women, but don't exactly live up to that level of quality themselves. Not that many of them even seek relationships, but still the hypocrisy disgusts me.

For many guys the go to after a break up is "go NC and hit the gym". While I'm for that, rarely is it explored whether the guy experiencing the break up actually could have done better. Then we sit here circlejerking about how the girl is to be blamed. While I don't deny that in many cases they do deserve some blame, I think the guys side of it is toned down way too much.

What I'm reading about on the forum these days is mostly sh!t compared to 15 year old posts. Where did Pook's "focus on yourself" go? I always took that to mean not getting hung up on the sh!tty side of women and rather focus entirely on oneself, because we can't change the world but we have sovereignty over ourselves. But here we are posting threads about women this, women that, feminism this and feminism that. I see a bunch of blaming on things way way larger than ourselves and it's an activity we have nothing to gain from.

A man doesn't meet the right woman before he is the right man. So when guys b!tch about women they're quite far away from being the right man.
Perhaps, how when you deal with one side (male or female) who refuses to work on a relationship or marriage, what do you do then? Self-reflecting usually happens after the fact they realize there is an issue. Women, seem to keep quiet and let it fester a bit. Men are usually clueless until it is too late. Why? Because the time the woman speaks up, she's done. You need to people willing to fight and make the marriage or relationship work. This is a rarity these days. There used to be negative consequences because of a break up or divorce. Now, it's common place.

Bottom line, one person usually cares too much, and the other couldn't care less. If a partner doesn't speak up, how is the other one to know there's an issue? I can only speak for myself, and I am not a mind reader. Also, I've read several threads here and other relationship support forums where the man was very supportive, but in his time of need, she either left him high and dry or couldn't care less.

It's not always the man's fault bro. This day and age, I'd say it's more on the side of a woman's for the single fact that they have so many options and society no longer looks down on failure relationships or failed marriages while the man gets a-z-z- raped in court. @Grewd, I usually agree a lot with you on many of your posts, but this one I am going to have to respectfully disagree. Half the men here beating their chests are BS posters anyway. Unless it's a detailed post, I just pass because it is most likely BS.
 

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Is this a reality or just a pipe dream?
Let's say, a woman is held at gun point for sexual access. Wtf sort of lifestyle is that?

This is marriage. Its male resource's taken at gun point be It unfaithful wife or woman getting fat. Its doesn't matter if show cucks her hubby or cuts him off.

In said predicament, he swears away current and future earnings as well as sexual access.

Only a cuck with really low testosterone would partake in said predicament ESP with cratered SMV.


Men need to unplug from society, from provider beta cuck, and actually call All-in on the male biological strategy rather then male sacrificial lamb. I have no sympathy for betas, cucks, and low testosterone playing House with cratered SMV and or single moms. If he wants to play Russian roulette, good riddance.

This life is ruthless and female nature is ****ing SAVAGE.

The sooner this registers in a Man's thick skull, the better.
 

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Nothing is perfect. You can have a great marriage, not a perfect one. But as others have so eloquently said, it requires the right woman and for you to be the right man. Nothing worth having comes easy, it requires work, and contentment in your dating life is no exception.
 

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Not everyone wants to get married, this construct is difficult to break down, rivaling religion
 

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The problem with getting better as a man and raising your sexual market value is the end of the means. You get where you want through hard work and dedication, you have a lot of the stuff you dreamed about, then comes your idea of a trophy wife and then you live your life out in mediocrity. You're married, you have a nice house, you vacation etc, but your impact on a larger scale tapers off and you get blown in the the same dust you worked so hard to crawl out of.

Guess what I am trying to convey is, in order to be great you must never settle, no matter what age you are. Always reinvent yourself, always strive for greatness, never settle. Push the bar of human limits beneath you
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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