Is the key is just treating women worse than your pet dog?

[CollegeLife]

So reading on Roissy's blog:

Gorbachev is right.

Girls are ****ed up man…

It sounds horrible but I treat my pet dog better than I treat

most girls I’ve been with

Response

That doesn’t sound horrible. You should treat your dog better.

Dogs are more loyal and are genuinely just better people than most girls are.

The person with the second quote have this blog post with its comments also.

Man, no matter how many times I go about it, it is just depressing.

It is one thing to demand respect, have backbone, be bold, and lead. I understand the worse behavior of AFCs is being a doormat and fearful of every action. But the expectation to be treated well and speaking one's mind is still much different then treating her worse than a dog and giving a sh!t at all of what she says.

I mean Jesus Christ, I don't know how I can dehumanize them enough to treat them that poorly.

Please tell me that the girls they are targeting are slvtty girls who are messed up (the blog post did said she done that before). I don't think I have it to act full on douchebag. Even I take some cute nerdy girl, I still abhor the thought that inside, she wants someone who can not just have some balls, but not give a sh!t at all.

 

[Real Talk]

Preach. I think most people with this mentality haven't had a really fulfilling relationship yet. Even if things end badly with a good woman I can't see myself rationalizing the situation that way.

 

[scribblec]

ive seen this in action, my friends have taken this slut treated her like a dog both of them ****ed her and then they dashed her out the car and YET she still called him the next day after saying "this is the last time"

women are such ****ing sluts

 

[zekko]

Man, no matter how many times I go about it, it is just depressing.

You're totally right, College Life. Fact is, if you believe garbage like this that people in the community put up you probably are going to be depressed.
It's just more misogynistic BS, from people who have let their failures with women mess up their heads, and their attitudes.
+1 to you.

 

[Sir Psycho Sexy]

It varies between women. With experience you will know how you should treat a specific women. It depends on her personality and what kind of relationship you want with her.

The three main ways to treat women are:
-being an AFC, your her b1tch
-being an a$$hole, shes your b1tch
-being a strong nice guy, you treat her with respect while still respecting yourself


Being an a$$hole is best for "players" or those guys who want to sleep with a ton of women. Nothing wrong with that.

Being a nice guy who respects himself is best if you want healthy relationships.

Being AFC never gets you anywhere in life.

*Some girls deserve to be treated like sh1t. When they dont respect you, you cannot respect them.

 

[Sir Psycho Sexy]

You're totally right, College Life. Fact is, if you believe garbage like this that people in the community put up you probably are going to be depressed.
It's just more misogynistic BS, from people who have let their failures with women mess up their heads, and their attitudes.
+1 to you.

I challenge you to be more accepting of the hateful mindset of some "DJs"

There is more than one way to skin a cat... I think its best if men explore all the different ways of building attraction so they can find what works best for them.

Instead of just writing it off as "misogynistic BS"
Because there is definitely something to be learned here for collegeLife


just my two cents for you...

 

[zekko]

Because there is definitely something to be learned here for collegeLife

Such as?

 

[Sir Psycho Sexy]

It helps develop an understanding of the emotional rollercoaster that many girls crave in a relationship. Treating women badly can give them the low feelings that some women subconsciously desire to stay exited in the relationship.

"A$$holes" display several traits that are attractive to women. The strong confidence *displayed*, the unpredictability, the show of DOMINANCE, and the changes in attention that she receives from him.


I know YOU already understand these concepts zekko, but for someone whos learning and asking questions...its important to not just brush these things aside as BS


And I want to mention this once more..

I think its best if men explore all the different ways of building attraction so they can find what works best for them.

Thanks for having me explain my ideas a bit more, I may of been a little vague the first time

 

[COD]

LETS FACE IT, THEY ARE MUCH MORE APPEALING ON ALL FOURS, IF U PET THEM LONG ENOUGH THEY WILL WANT YOUR BONE, Gosh a lot of them just can not get enough of doing it doggy style, if they bark.....odds are they just want to go for a walk.

wait...........are we talking chics or dogs

 

[Warrior74]

While I understand the whole treat em mean to keep em keen. And I know that it works. I'd rather not date the type of women it works extremely well on. There is a difference between being the standing up for yourself -putting your women in her place - telling her when she's wrong -having some swagger- being ****y and teasing as well as willing to show anger and affection type of guy... and being an miserable abusive azzhole. There are women attracted to both, the women attracted to the latter don't matter in my book.

 

[Maxtro]

10 post rule

How do people who treat women like dogs, even get women to sleep with them?

Edit:

And I'm out of posts.

Heh Water Tiger, some dogs have pretty good lives doesn't seem that bad. Some are entirely spoiled!

 

[drak_ool]

I'm with Warrior on this one. I've been accused by my friends of treating girls that I was seeing like they were my dog. It's just I didn't give a shyt about those girls, couldn't care less if they came back to me or not. And they kept coming back, over and over again. 2 girls in particular pple accused me of treating like pets were not sluts at all. But they really liked me. So what was I supposed to do? Lie to them and pretend I wanted a commited relationship with them, while fvcking other girls on the side? Or treat them with indiference, play with them when it suited me and ignore them when I was busy w/ other chicks, and be honest to them about not wanting a relationship?

Now I have a girlfriend, who I treat with respect and love. Not everything in life is black and white.

 

[WaterTiger]

How do people who treat women like dogs, even get women to sleep with them?

Maybe she'll do anything for a Scooby Snack?:crazy:

To be treated "like a dog" here in America isn't such a bad deal!
*You get a free house/apartment to live in!
*Your owner hires someone to take you for walks so you don't get lonely!
*On the weekends you get to play in the park and chase frisbees all day!
*You get "Specially Balanced Nutritional" food, that goes through a more rigorous checking process than most human food.
*You can sleep most of the day!

Your job:
*Bark loudly at serial killers and burglars...(which all look suspiciously like the mail man, UPS guy, and the old woman who lives up the street.)
*Jump up and act crazy when your owner comes home. Act like you're about to bust a kidney even if you went pee 3 minutes ago.
*Act smart and devoted in front of his friends.
*....um....nah, that's it.

So yeah! Treat me like a dog!

 

[KingofHearts]

It helps develop an understanding of the emotional rollercoaster that many girls crave in a relationship. Treating women badly can give them the low feelings that some women subconsciously desire to stay exited in the relationship.

"A$$holes" display several traits that are attractive to women. The strong confidence *displayed*, the unpredictability, the show of DOMINANCE, and the changes in attention that she receives from him.


I know YOU already understand these concepts zekko, but for someone whos learning and asking questions...its important to not just brush these things aside as BS


And I want to mention this once more..



Thanks for having me explain my ideas a bit more, I may of been a little vague the first time

Another words, treat them like daddy did.

Fellas, remember to check yourself every once in a while. Its funny, some guys go AFC when its down to one girl. But other guys go assshole for the entire gender. Either way, it displays signs of a weak man. You're changing you're personality based on what women react to. Check yourself every now and then to make sure you're not changing who you are for women who you say don't matter.

Sorry guys, shortcuts only lead you to deadends. Working on ourselves in all aspects will be far more effective than simply focusing on our approach to women. Its the long road, but its worth taking. Over time, displaying confidence and being dominant comes naturally when you've got the goods to back it up. If you're just "acting" confident and masculine, then its like building your house on the sand.

 

[zekko]

It helps develop an understanding of the emotional rollercoaster that many girls crave in a relationship. Treating women badly can give them the low feelings that some women subconsciously desire to stay exited in the relationship.

I agree with Warrior74's response. I would only add that some girls may deserve to be treated badly, but why bother with them in the first place?

 

[Ease]

Being an a-hole is the action of a man who is drowned in pusy. He has so much that it loses its importance. Imagine if you had 5 perfect girlfriends, how long could you keep up the 'respect and love' act for?

You would get bored, dump them for smallest things, replace, use them whenever you felt like it.

These are the actions of a man who is good with women. Because women can no longer manipulate him.

I'm with Warrior on this one. I've been accused by my friends of treating girls that I was seeing like they were my dog. It's just I didn't give a shyt about those girls, couldn't care less if they came back to me or not. And they kept coming back, over and over again. 2 girls in particular pple accused me of treating like pets were not sluts at all. But they really liked me. So what was I supposed to do? Lie to them and pretend I wanted a commited relationship with them, while fvcking other girls on the side? Or treat them with indiference, play with them when it suited me and ignore them when I was busy w/ other chicks, and be honest to them about not wanting a relationship?

Now I have a girlfriend, who I treat with respect and love. Not everything in life is black and white.

And thats why those girls would have never left you, and your current girlfriend probably will!

 

[Tesl]

You're totally right, College Life. Fact is, if you believe garbage like this that people in the community put up you probably are going to be depressed.
It's just more misogynistic BS, from people who have let their failures with women mess up their heads, and their attitudes.
+1 to you.

Correct.

Treating women badly involves demonstrating many of the "qualities" required in attracting women in the first place (being the prize, not chasing, not clingy, confident etc). However, this will never work out well long term. The best way to be is not only have those best traits of an *******, but also being able to treat her well without letting her take advantage. Being a gentlemen also goes a long way.

 

[Maxtro]

Anybody want to give an example of treating women badly that caused them to like the guy more?

 

[Furyguy]

Anybody want to give an example of treating women badly that caused them to like the guy more?

Was getting pretty serious in a relationship with this girl. I treated her wonderfully, but I could tell all along she really didn't give a **** about me the way I did about her. She always had other guys on the side and never really made much of an effort for me. I was trying to be the "great guy", always respectful, loving, etc, to win her over for good. Never worked.

Anyways eventually I get sick of her sh!t and basically say 'Go f*ck yourself, you are an ignorant wh*re and I want nothing to do with you, if you got hit by a bus tomorrow it would not mean sh!t to me one way or other.'

And the chick goes f*cking nuts. Buying me gifts every week, driving an hour out to my house to f*ck and then leaving to drive back an hour to her house that same night. Skipping class, lying, canceling commitments just to see me etc. All the while saying "I really love you so much, I just wish you would tell me you love me back" while I am saying "I don't love you, in fact I don't f*cking care about you at all, really I think you are a pretty terrible person" thinking it would get her to take the hint and leave me alone, while it instead it just made her crazier for me. I wasn't even nice to her when we were together. We would basically just f*ck and that was it, and she would literally do anything I wanted her to both in and out of bed.

Still, this girl's obsession persisted for like half a year (perhaps even to this day, though I haven't talked to her in a while) after the point of me telling her to f*ck off. She was always very into me when I treated her well, but NEVER to such extreme, ridiculous levels as when I started treating her like sh!t.

Anyways, whatever other factors there were at play here, the bottom line is this girl was moderately attracted to me when I treated her well and became f*cking nuts obsessed in love with me when I started to treat her like sh!t.

Does that mean that me treating her like sh!t is what caused her to feel this way? Not necessarily. As we all well know, correlation does not imply causation. Still, it is exactly the type of example you asked for.

 

[Maxtro]

Damn Furyguy that is insane. Such a huge change in her behavior.

The only thing that confuses me is that you seem to contradict yourself.

"She was always very into me when I treated her well"
"this girl was moderately attracted to me when I treated her well"

I'm guessing that the girl has to have some interest in you before, the being mean thing would have any effect.