Is she genuinely busy? I doubt it. Advice

t510

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Hi
I started seeing a new girl a few weeks ago. She works a demanding job, but everytime we chat all I hear is she is exhausted or so busy. Last time we met she was initiating kino and told me to call her. That was the weekend before the past weekend. Now she rarely initiates conversation. I told her I wanted to get together soon to let me know when she was free - that was 10 days ago. She seemed really excited.
I'm trying to meet new girls.
How would you handle this one? What I did tonight was just say "I hear ya" when she said how busy her week is and told her I gtg. Would you ask her out again? How long would you give her. I think it's time to move on.
 
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Meet a new girl and stop giving a fvck about her or even thinking about her. If she isn't asking and you're chasing it's not worth it. You've made yourself to available and she's to busy because women are ****ing retarded. Find someone else asap and as soon as you do she will start trying to hook up with you guaranteed, read Murphy's law. Low interest girls aren't worth your time.
 

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t510 said:
Hi
I started seeing a new girl a few weeks ago. She works a demanding job, but everytime we chat all I hear is she is exhausted or so busy. Last time we met she was initiating kino and told me to call her. That was the weekend before the past weekend. Now she rarely initiates conversation. I told her I wanted to get together soon to let me know when she was free - that was 10 days ago. She seemed really excited.
I'm trying to meet new girls.
How would you handle this one? What I did tonight was just say "I hear ya" when she said how busy her week is and told her I gtg. Would you ask her out again? How long would you give her. I think it's time to move on.
What did you do when she started initiating kino? If nothing, in her mind she was giving you a clear green light to do something and you didn't do it, so either she thinks you are scared to make a move which might be a bigger turnoff than not taking a shower for a week and swimming in a sewer right before meeting her for a date, or not interested in her...aka, you rejected her. So basically she friendzoned you, or you friendzoned yourself.

If you get her out again, you are going to probably have to put in a lot of work to salvage this situation...If I were you then next time you guys texted I'd just say something like "wow, you seem to be stressed out, tired and working a lot...you sound like you could use a nice, long massage" and she'll definitely respond positively(I've never had one that didn't), then you say something like "well, lucky for you I give the world's best massages...let's meet at xxxx around 10pm tonight/tomorrow/whatever day and I can help you relieve that tension you've built up..."

If she says "That sounds great", "OK", etc then you are in and don't F it up...follow my advice in this thread when you meet

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2113819#post2113819

If she says "I'm busy" or any other excuse that means you are pretty much done and she has removed you as a romantic option...

As a man, when you get a green light from a woman to do something you are expected to take it, if you put the brakes on, they lose respect for you...its a woman's job to put the brakes on, not the man's...the man is supposed to push the accelerator, if you push the brake, they are wondering wtf is wrong with you...
 

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Your gut instinct is right. Move on. I'm not 100% with marmel on this one, but perhaps in her mind she thinks she got rejected. Either way, if she was really into you she would give you more opportunities than just one perfect shot where you loose completely if you blow it. More than likely she is entertaining her many orbiters and other guys trying to score.
 

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tonight I didn't respond to one of her texts. She wrote back a couple hours later. Before we met last time she was giving me the run around over and over and then I rejected her next offer. Guess what? She called asking to go out again.
So I'm moving on. And now she has to do everything if she wants to get anywehre... I've had it.

I guess I could have f'd up with the kino...
 

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Do you think it would be good to just forget about her for awhile say till next weekend then call and see if she is free for a specific time?
If I don't hear from her by then, maybe it is best to just forget it...
 

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thelastmanonearth said:
Meet a new girl and stop giving a fvck about her or even thinking about her. If she isn't asking and you're chasing it's not worth it. You've made yourself to available and she's to busy because women are ****ing retarded. Find someone else asap and as soon as you do she will start trying to hook up with you guaranteed, read Murphy's law. Low interest girls aren't worth your time.
Haha.

Low interest girls, "where nothing can possiblie go wrong. PossibLY go wrong. Why, that's the first thing that's ever gone wrong."
 

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Look, people that are interested will not confuse you or be vague. This is true for every topic on earth. Business, relationships, some guy wanting to buy your car. We are dealing with a bunch of girls who don't know what they want. Social retarded female AFC's if you will with an I-don't-care-about-you attitude. Next!
 

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You're learning some f*cking awesome lessons with this chick here. Already it sounds like you've almost progressed to the "if she's gonna waste my time doing stupid sh*t then I'm gonna make her chase me!" way of thought.

Keep going on your path, you're gonna be fine.
 

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I agree with Turuwal that you're on the right track with this. From what I've read, she sounds really flaky and it sounds like you're taking control (which is great).
 

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I'm looking at your post... and then I'm looking at the majority of the responses, and it looks like most of these guys have NO idea about what the man's part of an interaction is supposed to be. So, let's look at your post again, and see where (a) you're screwing up, and (b) misreading her interest:


"I started seeing a new girl a few weeks ago. She works a demanding job, but everytime we chat all I hear is she is exhausted or so busy. Last time we met she was initiating kino and told me to call her. That was the weekend before the past weekend. Now she rarely initiates conversation."

Were you just calling her to chit-chat? No bueno. The goal of getting a girl on the phone is to ask her for the DATE. You don't start doing "chatty" conversations until you're the boyfriend, and even then you (a) keep it to a minimum, and (b) save the majority of interactions for when she's there with you in person.

Also: the reason she's not initiating as much conversation is because - wait for it, wait for it... IT'S THE GUY'S JOB TO INITIATE PHONE CONVERSATION, especially as it pertains to asking her out. Yes, she could like you all day, but at some point most girls start to realize they're doing most of the contacting, which doesn't make them feel like the guy that likes them is doing enough to show he likes her. So, they'll dial back their contact initiation to see if he does it. Yes, it's a test and it sucks, but in reality YOU should be the one doing most of the contacting in the first place!

"I told her I wanted to get together soon to let me know when she was free - that was 10 days ago. She seemed really excited."


Weak. You basically said: "So, anytime you wanna go out, I'll be available and ready to jump at the chance to do so because I have no life of my own." At least that's what it comes across as. Furthermore, you saying this means, in her mind at least, that you have NO actual plans for what you'd be trying to do were she free, nor have you tried putting any thought into it.

Here's something you, and the rest of the guys here, need to understand: if a woman likes you, she will MAKE time to do activities with you... IF you have a plan of what you want to do. If you hit her up with the ol' "lemme know when you're free so we can do something" routine, what does she have to get excited about? The prospect of seeing you? HA! That's your ego - what actual activity should she be looking forward to? A dinner? A play? Skydiving? Bowling? You don't know, therefore she doesn't know, therefore she's not calling you up when she has a free day!

So, what do you do? Wait a few days, then call her up and say "Hey, there's a new restaurant in town (find one), and I wanted to take you there and try it out. My schedule is a bit busy this week, but I do have Thursday and Sunday available, what would work best for you?" I don't care how busy she is, she's got to eat at some point, right? If she likes you, she'll either pick one of those days or give you an alternative day; if she doesn't, she'll continue to be busy and not give you a counter-offer.

Geez, people, don't make this as hard as it has to be!
 

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The man should be leading the relationship. If he is not.. the woman has low interest.

High interest means the woman will WORK to make sure she gets face-time with you. If she isn't willing to lift a finger OR inconvenience herself AT ALL to see you.. then she doesn't want to see you. She is indifferent.

Take the hint and find someone who is more enthusiastic about jumping on your c0ck. :up:

Take this from a man with lots of sexual experience --> Women who are attracted to you will SUBMIT. End of story. :yes:
 

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PlayHer Man said:
High interest means the woman will WORK to make sure she gets face-time with you. If she isn't willing to lift a finger OR inconvenience herself AT ALL to see you.. then she doesn't want to see you. She is indifferent.
That is a hard fact gentlemen and whoever doubts it, only promotes his own self-defeating ignorance.
 
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