Is it wrong to steal girlfriends?

[ChapStick]

I don't like stealing women just to do it.

I've been on the other side many times. It's painful to see the girl I'm interested in being seduced by someone else. Once I even had a guy break up a relationship I was in, that we were both happy in, by convincing her he wanted to date her. They slept together for a few weeks and he left her.

Overall, individual rules may vary, but I will only break a relationship up - or try to - if there are problems in the relationship, and I believe I can treat her better.

I don't ONS other guys' girlfriends.

I don't hit on married women either though, which I've been called conservative for. Whatever.

I know exactly what you're saying. I've been there my friend! Major respect goes out to you for having some morals.

 

[gherald]

no...

there's nothing wrong with it and the other guy shoudl be thankful that you've saved his ass from another crash and burn...

and that's life...

 

[gherald]

we need more guys like you..

people these days just do what other people tell them to do or whatever other people say they should do..

imagine if they listen to you..

what better world will have!~

there are enough guys who's like that...

just think of it this way, if you don't step up to be a player

you're the one whos gonna get played...

 

[potato]

A true DJ has many options to choose from so it only makes sense that a DJ would go for the most hassle/drama free option that being one of the many single chicks he knows.

Going after some chick thats in a marriage or LTR screams of being a bottom feeder who is scraping for anything he can get. Thats not DJ thats pathetic.

Actually the real Dan Juan did pursue such otherwise unattainable women. He used deceit, going as far as to disguise himself as a woman’s husband, sneaking in at night and having his way with the woman before she came to the realization that he wasn’t her husband.

When the woman’s husband came for revenge, Don Juan killed him.

 

[KontrollerX]

Actually the real Dan Juan did pursue such otherwise unattainable women. He used deceit, going as far as to disguise himself as a woman’s husband, sneaking in at night and having his way with the woman before she came to the realization that he wasn’t her husband.

When the woman’s husband came for revenge, Don Juan killed him.

I'm speaking of DJ as a term defined by the founders of the site such as Pook and the other classic posters who have long since vanished.

Pook once said if you have to become anything other than what you really are to get a woman then your love is not real.

I believe the term Don Juan or DJ is used on this site simply because the name is recognized with getting women. Thats as far as it goes its not a site about following in the character/persons footsteps in every way as the DJ term as used on this site has come to mean quite a different meaning than how the actual Don Juan character/person lived his life.

What the character did in your example was basically rape.

Then he murdered some poor innocent guy.

No true DJ here would ever do something like this.

Its deceitful pitiful and just wrong.

Rape and murder I hope is not what we're about here.

"there are enough guys who's like that...

just think of it this way, if you don't step up to be a player

you're the one whos gonna get played..."

If you get involved with a cheater it doesn't matter if you are a player.

If you are not simply looking for a fvck buddy with this cheater but a relationship you will eventually be played by this person sooner or later.

 

[ducaro]

I am alarmed at some the replies you got to your question... 'if he is your friend then its wrong, if not its not wrong... what crap!

its wrong if you wouldn't want someone stealing your gf, if yer OK with that.. its not 'wrong'

there is nothing wrong and right on this earth OK?

Most of the sosuavers are here because their woman stomped on their heart cuz another guy pulled her away... now doesn't that hurt?... we'll know how much pain we went through.. and now if yer sensitive enough you will know the answer to your question

 

[aliasguy]

there are enough guys who's like that...

just think of it this way, if you don't step up to be a player

you're the one whos gonna get played...

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I agree it's ok to nail her, BUT.......

Remember, if you think you're a "player," it might just be YOU that's getting "played."

That said, I stand by what I've written above. Keep your eyes open, always.


"Love," " real," whatever. What a joke.

Whatever has happened between a given man and woman has NOTHING to do with it. Old hurts don't matter. Live your life. Do what you want. Hit it.

Or, instead, be "sensitive." That might help. HA!!!

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[ducaro]

I hope all you 'All is fair in love and war' guys here realize that if you manage to 'steal' another mans 'woman', all you have with you is a hoe. You do realise that right??

You can't steal a woman from another man, you can only steal a hoe.

 

[aliasguy]

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Ok, ducaro, suppose you're right. And I don't necessarily disagree with you. The guy who "loses" the girl loses WHAT, according to you? A "hoe." So, what's lost?

The guy doing the "stealing" gets WHAT? A "session" with a "hoe," and he already KNOWS she's a "hoe."

So, both guys are better off, right?

The wussy, AFC boyfriend is no longer burdened with a "hoe" (your term), and can move on to Princess Buttercup, and the "next" guy gets laid by the "hoe," and moves on to another REAL woman.

Everybody's happy, right?

So far, everyone's ahead. The first guy gets rid of his "hoe." And he is now free to seek out MS. RIGHT (wherever SHE might be.) The second guy gets laid, and already knows the b*tch is just a piece of *ss.

The chick gets whatever the hell she gets outta all this, and who really cares about HER at this point, anyway? She's a "hoe," right?

So, everybody's happy. What's the problem? Why are you "alarmed"?

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[KillingTime]

I see nothing wrong with it if the woman responds. I don't agree with asking a woman out while she is with someone else, but I do agree in flirting with her as much as possible (IF she responds) until she naturally comes towards you and pulls away from the other guy.

I also think, if the guy in the relationship is VERY good at this and keeping her happy, a girl CAN't be stolen away. This is extremely rare though... it's also the reason why a real relationship takes a LOT of constant work, to really secure a girlfriend from being stolen means to keep the passion and intensity just as high as it was the very first week you dated her, that takes tons of effort and most guys can't do it.

 

[ducaro]

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Ok, ducaro, suppose you're right. And I don't necessarily disagree with you. The guy who "loses" the girl loses WHAT, according to you? A "hoe." So, what's lost?

The guy doing the "stealing" gets WHAT? A "session" with a "hoe," and he already KNOWS she's a "hoe."

So, both guys are better off, right?

The wussy, AFC boyfriend is no longer burdened with a "hoe" (your term), and can move on to Princess Buttercup, and the "next" guy gets laid by the "hoe," and moves on to another REAL woman.

Everybody's happy, right?

So far, everyone's ahead. The first guy gets rid of his "hoe." And he is now free to seek out MS. RIGHT (wherever SHE might be.) The second guy gets laid, and already knows the b*tch is just a piece of *ss.

The chick gets whatever the hell she gets outta all this, and who really cares about HER at this point, anyway? She's a "hoe," right?

So, everybody's happy. What's the problem? Why are you "alarmed"?

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I respect you for your age and intelligence!! Just to let you know I am alarmed cuz most of the guys want to 'start a life' with the ''woman'' they stole!!! Thats why I am alarmed!!

I do not disagree with you explanation at all! I am glad you would only steal a 'hoe' for a session with her.. so would I.. but a lot of guys develop onei'tis with the hoe!.. thats why i asked.. 'you do realize right'??
No offence to you at all.. cuz you seem to have yer sh!t together!

 

[SickAgain]

I am currently dealing with this chick who has a boyfriend which she never told me about that I had to hear from my friend. So either she just wanted attention or she was trying to get with me leaving her BF in the dust.

I had to call her out on it though that I knew just to let her know I'm not desperate enough to chase a taken lady. Now she knows I won't pursue her. If she pursues me, that is a different story.

I figure a lot of girls are in relationships because they dread being alone and labeled as single, where nobody "loves them". These relationships are completely empty and superficial. Do you want a needy chick like that? No. Do you want to fvck a needy chick like that? Sure.

 

[Rhizzle]

So, as part of my personal growth and practice, I'm thinking of trying to take a girl from her ASS WIPE bf.

First, he's a total piece of crap. Treats her like crap, he never pays for anything, takes advantage of her, he even hit her one time. Just a selfserving Son of a *****.

For some reason, she keeps hanging around. its not the sex that she likes cause she has told her roommate (my friend), that he is a little two pump chump.

Since I've known her, about 5 months, she has broken up with him probably 8 times, and within 3 days, she goes back to him, or he woos her back. (however thats spelled), but he never changes and does things like he's purposefully pushing her away.

Well, I decided at their last breakup, I was gonna really try some techniques on her that I've been learning here. The C&F, the Negs, the Kino, and see how she responded and sorta help myself to grow as well.

Well, seems like its working. She and her roommate and other friends were at my place sat evening hanging out. At one point, she challenges me to shotgun a beer. Well, i'd never had a beer before, and just recently started drinking at all. So, I played it cool and wasn't interested. Next thing, she says, if I do it, she'll kiss me. (says this right in front of the group). So, again, playing into the idea of kino and such, I bite.

Well, sure enough, we chug em down, and then she leans right in and kisses me. Quickly, but on the lips. We were NOT ver drunk at this point, just had a couple drinks is all, so she knew what she was doing.

Well, the next night, her asswipe bf, whatever he is, is over at my friend's/her place. Before he got there, she had told her roomie to NOT mention anything about that.

Well, anyway, so, they are all talking after he gets there, about what a great time they all had that evening, (he was out of town at the time), and she up and tells him.

Well, what I heard was, he was pissed, and they went into her room to talk, and come back out a few minutes later, but he didn't storm off and leave. Clearly he doesn't really give a crap about her, he's just a piece of **** roid head.

So, i'm thinkin, next time I'm over there, i'm gonna C&F a little more, keep it up, and if I get a chance in a moments notice, I'm gonna go in for another kiss and see what she says.

Maybe some "patterns" I can learn will help pull her from this guy.

Again, I'm just trying to learn, and grow and develop, but having said that, she needs to get away from this guy cause he's totally worthless. None of our friends can stand him.

 

[KontrollerX]

"So, as part of my personal growth and practice, I'm thinking of trying to take a girl from her ASS WIPE bf.

First, he's a total piece of crap. Treats her like crap, he never pays for anything, takes advantage of her, he even hit her one time. Just a selfserving Son of a *****.

For some reason, she keeps hanging around. its not the sex that she likes cause she has told her roommate (my friend), that he is a little two pump chump.

Since I've known her, about 5 months, she has broken up with him probably 8 times, and within 3 days, she goes back to him, or he woos her back. (however thats spelled), but he never changes and does things like he's purposefully pushing her away."

Good luck with what you're trying to do Rhizzle but a chick like this doesn't leave a guy like this permaneantly simply because she has some sick need to put up with the abuse be the reason for it her having Stockholm Syndrome or she just thinks of herself as so worthless she deserves the abuse.

DJ techniques and all that can get some action on the side from these chicks and they may also be able to get these chicks into bed but the thing is they don't give their heart to DJ's.

They only give their heart to abusers and until the girl fixes herself just when you think its finally over between them and she's now your girl she'll give you the "I'm sorry speech" and be back in his arms before you can say WTF?

Then you'll be on the DJ board asking why she would go back with this loser considering what he has done to her.

And your answer is dude its not your fault its something inside of her thats messed up that needs this abuse and until she resolves her issues whatever they are you and no other good guy will ever truly have her.

A normal healthy minded woman will leave a guy and never look back after the first time he hits her.

 

[Rhizzle]

Yea, you're probably right. I can't fathom whatt it is that makes her want to be with him after it all. I mean, this guy makes good money, real good, but NEVER spends it on her. She pays for stuff they do together. He wont even take her out on a nice date, EVER. They always hang out with other people. (HIS friends).

Once she caught another girls number in his phone, and he lied and said his friends were pushing him to just talk to her, but he wasn't doing anything. Sure enough, 3 days later and some flowers, and she was OK with it. He hit her, like shoved her down in the floor once and left, 2 days later, good to go. He just oozed worthless bastard. I'd just like to give her some reason to leave the piece of ****, and stick to it, and at the same time, practice my skills on this chick. I've already seen a huge difference in her actions toward me, since I started a little game here and there as mentioned above, which led up to her offering that kiss. I wonder though, if I get a chance, and just walk up and kiss her, if she'd just run tell him. I like the chanc I've seen in her toward me. She's like a little running field test, and I am wondering how far I can push it. This is all uncharted water for me by a LONG shot.

Hell she told him the first time, and she initiated it.

Basically, they were discussing the fun evening, and she says yea, Rhizzle shotgunned a beer.
SOAB: He did? why.
My friend her roomie: cause (her) is very persuasive.
SOAB: yea, how so
Her: cause I said I'd kiss him if he did.
SOAB: You did?
Her: yea
SOAB: and he did it?
Her: yea
SOAB: and what did you do?
Her: I kissed him
SOAB: and what did he do?
Her: he kissed me back.

WHAT THE HELL? WEIRD

 

[BlackJackal]

Yea, you're probably right. I can't fathom whatt it is that makes her want to be with him after it all. I mean, this guy makes good money, real good, but NEVER spends it on her. She pays for stuff they do together. He wont even take her out on a nice date, EVER. They always hang out with other people. (HIS friends).

Once she caught another girls number in his phone, and he lied and said his friends were pushing him to just talk to her, but he wasn't doing anything. Sure enough, 3 days later and some flowers, and she was OK with it. He hit her, like shoved her down in the floor once and left, 2 days later, good to go. He just oozed worthless bastard. I'd just like to give her some reason to leave the piece of ****, and stick to it, and at the same time, practice my skills on this chick. I've already seen a huge difference in her actions toward me, since I started a little game here and there as mentioned above, which led up to her offering that kiss. I wonder though, if I get a chance, and just walk up and kiss her, if she'd just run tell him. I like the chanc I've seen in her toward me. She's like a little running field test, and I am wondering how far I can push it. This is all uncharted water for me by a LONG shot.

Hell she told him the first time, and she initiated it.

Basically, they were discussing the fun evening, and she says yea, Rhizzle shotgunned a beer.
SOAB: He did? why.
My friend her roomie: cause (her) is very persuasive.
SOAB: yea, how so
Her: cause I said I'd kiss him if he did.
SOAB: You did?
Her: yea
SOAB: and he did it?
Her: yea
SOAB: and what did you do?
Her: I kissed him
SOAB: and what did he do?
Her: he kissed me back.

WHAT THE HELL? WEIRD

I'm gonna give you the best advice anyone can give on here.
(Clears throat)....Let-it-Go.

 

[BlackJackal]

As far as this whole "stealing" a gf is concerned. Whether you're all for it or against it, I think ya'll are giving the so called "thief" to much credit.

Techniqually, you cant steal a gf. If the woman in question decided to cheat on her man, then she did it of her own free will. If she was satisfied she wouldn't cheat, I dont care how "DJ" you think you are. No ones that special. Just like a single woman, if she let's you hit, it's only cause she already wanted you to hit. So you didn't steal her, she gave it to you. All you did was take it.

As for the bf, all I can say is, "thems the breaks''. Sometimes you get a raw deal.

 

[jesusrules]

as long as its not your friends girl lol then that should be fine. =)

 

[BlackJackal]

Exactly.