Is it wrong for a 30+ year old man to be attracted to girls in their late teens?

[Snag87]

Wouldn't go that far.

If we're speaking from a purely physical perspective, I absolutely would. What man finds 34 year old women more attractive on average than 20 year olds?

 

[corrector]

I was making a statement based on my knowledge. I think pornography alters the brain so that the outcome of that conditioning is questionable at best.

I think you brought up the point as a way of legitimizing your interest in younger women. You are saying like "I feel entitled to like younger women because my mind is not re-wired to be some deviant pervert. Do you all agree that I'm normal?" So, my question in this case is do you think people's advice on this thread would have been for you to stop looking at porn rather than legitimizing your interests in younger women as normal?

If I were to take you argument at face value, and those are your thoughts, then I'd say maybe your past consumption of porn, has permanently re-wired your brain in some way so now you are deviant to like young women and had you never looked at it in the first place, you would not be deviant and would like women around your own age. You've said nothing that you can undo or un-wire your brain if you stop looking at porn so the damage is already done.

I'm trying to see how that argument fits into your mindset about liking or not liking younger women since you brought that up on this thread (not as a separate other topic).

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

TBH, this obsession older guys have with younger women is always rooted in some sort of mental or emotional flaw. Yeah dudes will cite biology or whatever but most of the times it is an ego thing. Older guy never had success with younger women back in his day and now he wants to make up for lost time. I've known more than a handful of dudes like this who daygame college campuses despite being 30+, go to college parties, hit up college bars, and try to go to young nightclubs.

Very rarely, if ever, have I seen these guys actually pull. Most of the times, everyone is sort of laughing at them while the younger woman is usually going off with some Chad her age. Almost all the time these guys swear off women their age and obsess over chasing younger women, often failing and coming off as creeps in the process. The success is rarely if ever there.

When I have seen older guys have success with younger women, they normally went for women their own age and had great relationships there. They had a lot of fun with women their own age because they were fun guys to be around. Younger women picked up on this and opened up more to these older guys who didn't want them but then it just ended up happening.

 

[corrector]

TBH, this obsession older guys have with younger women is always rooted in some sort of mental or emotional flaw. Yeah dudes will cite biology or whatever but most of the times it is an ego thing. Older guy never had success with younger women back in his day and now he wants to make up for lost time. I've known more than a handful of dudes like this who daygame college campuses despite being 30+, go to college parties, hit up college bars, and try to go to young nightclubs.

Very rarely, if ever, have I seen these guys actually pull. Most of the times, everyone is sort of laughing at them while the younger woman is usually going off with some Chad her age. Almost all the time these guys swear off women their age and obsess over chasing younger women, often failing and coming off as creeps in the process. The success is rarely if ever there.

When I have seen older guys have success with younger women, they normally went for women their own age and had great relationships there. They had a lot of fun with women their own age because they were fun guys to be around. Younger women picked up on this and opened up more to these older guys who didn't want them but then it just ended up happening.

But do they watch porn or not?

 

[Plinco]

TBH, this obsession older guys have with younger women is always rooted in some sort of mental or emotional flaw. Yeah dudes will cite biology or whatever but most of the times it is an ego thing. Older guy never had success with younger women back in his day and now he wants to make up for lost time. I've known more than a handful of dudes like this who daygame college campuses despite being 30+, go to college parties, hit up college bars, and try to go to young nightclubs.

Very rarely, if ever, have I seen these guys actually pull. Most of the times, everyone is sort of laughing at them while the younger woman is usually going off with some Chad her age. Almost all the time these guys swear off women their age and obsess over chasing younger women, often failing and coming off as creeps in the process. The success is rarely if ever there.

When I have seen older guys have success with younger women, they normally went for women their own age and had great relationships there. They had a lot of fun with women their own age because they were fun guys to be around. Younger women picked up on this and opened up more to these older guys who didn't want them but then it just ended up happening.

Sounds like we've had very different experiences. I was an organizer for college events and that by itself was enjoyable; I had a lot of fun. Picking up girls there was just icing on the cake.

I think you brought up the point as a way of legitimizing your interest in younger women. You are saying like "I feel entitled to like younger women because my mind is not re-wired to be some deviant pervert. Do you all agree that I'm normal?" So, my question in this case is do you think people's advice on this thread would have been for you to stop looking at porn rather than legitimizing your interests in younger women as normal?

I'm glad you brought that up, and there is some truth to that. I think a lot of men out there are at least somewhat perverted by pornography. The fact that I don't get into that stuff is one of those things that I can brag about being better than other men out there.

Does that make me feel entitled to younger women? Not really.

If I were to take you argument at face value, and those are your thoughts, then I'd say maybe your past consumption of porn, has permanently re-wired your brain in some way so now you are deviant to like young women and had you never looked at it in the first place, you would not be deviant and would like women around your own age. You've said nothing that you can undo or un-wire your brain if you stop looking at porn so the damage is already done.

I don't think the damage is necessarily permanent. I honestly don't know enough about the subject to know for sure, but my guess is that your mind and body tends to heal itself over time and so the damage goes away.

 

[corrector]

Does that make me feel entitled to younger women? Not really.

Why not?

 

[Plinco]

Why not?

I think @Pan87 explained it really well, men have the burden of performance. Being a sex addicted monkey is bad for performance.

 

[corrector]

I think @Pan87 explained it really well, men have the burden of performance. Being a sex addicted monkey is bad for performance.

Being older is bad for performance.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Feminism (society) closed off young fertile women to protect the egos of the older aging women. A married man will easily shack up with a 15+ girl if the law wasn't going after him. It's common in south america for women to have sex at ages even early as 13. 12 year old pregnancies is not abnormal there. Same in the middle east. India and China have similar cultures of young women. And girls as young as 15-16 in europe have sex constantly with older men.

 

[Stuffnu]

Perception will eventually change when you have a daughter the same age.
Desire and attraction may creep, but its usually buried behind one’s morality.

 

[corrector]

Perception will eventually change when you have a daughter the same age.
Desire and attraction may creep, but its usually buried behind one’s morality.

Most of us on here don't though.

 

[Scars]

No. They're hot. I have 9 more years before my daughter is 18, so maybe when I'm literally dating girls her age it might be weird.. but until then I have no morals against banging younger chicks.

 

[zekko]

Shoot, I'm 61 and I notice that the most attractive women are 18-25 (actually I've always said 18-27). But I'm not going to go after an 18 year old at my age lol. Maybe if I was Genghis Kahn or buying a prostitute (which I'm not inclined to do). The only difference with being older is a lot of 40 year olds look really young to me, and thus pretty hot. Of course some of them don't, but whatever. Males being attracted to youth is biology.

 

[manfrombelow]

Shoot, I'm 61 and I notice that the most attractive women are 18-25 (actually I've always said 18-27). But I'm not going to go after an 18 year old at my age lol. Maybe if I was Genghis Kahn or buying a prostitute (which I'm not inclined to do). The only difference with being older is a lot of 40 year olds look really young to me, and thus pretty hot. Of course some of them don't, but whatever. Males being attracted to youth is biology.

Are you really 61?

Always had the impression you're 40s max.

 

[Scars]

Are you really 61?

Always had the impression you're 40s max.

Nah zekko is an OG. He's been around awhile. While 20 year olds are post flaming each other he's dropping old man wisdom.

 

[characternote]

TBH, this obsession older guys have with younger women is always rooted in some sort of mental or emotional flaw. Yeah dudes will cite biology or whatever but most of the times it is an ego thing. Older guy never had success with younger women back in his day and now he wants to make up for lost time. I've known more than a handful of dudes like this who daygame college campuses despite being 30+, go to college parties, hit up college bars, and try to go to young nightclubs.

Very rarely, if ever, have I seen these guys actually pull. Most of the times, everyone is sort of laughing at them while the younger woman is usually going off with some Chad her age. Almost all the time these guys swear off women their age and obsess over chasing younger women, often failing and coming off as creeps in the process. The success is rarely if ever there.

When I have seen older guys have success with younger women, they normally went for women their own age and had great relationships there. They had a lot of fun with women their own age because they were fun guys to be around. Younger women picked up on this and opened up more to these older guys who didn't want them but then it just ended up happening.

yeah, that might be the case a fair bit of the time, i'm sure. I don't really swim in PUA circles in real life so can't be sure, but I imagine there's something to be said for PUA guys who never got laid in their youth and now try to chase young girls to catch up kind of thing

Not really the case for me. I got laid a 'normal' amount when i was young and slept with my share of 14-16 year olds. I hit a decent dry spell in my mid 20's which is when i found the community. (that's another story, but after experimenting with a tonne of 'bro science' I learnt that the only 'game' is numbers game!)

But 18 ish is still my preference. I've fairly recently, now in my 30's, banged a few 17-19 year olds. It's just a preference. I find them infinitely hotter. I didn't really 'miss out' in my youth so that argument doesn't really apply to me, tbh (i was no stud, but got some!)

But of course my hit rate is low! I get rejected a **** tonne by these young girls but that's just the game. Need to keep approaching until you find the teens who like how i look. It will always come down too attraction. I also get rejected a lot by women closer to my own age who happen to have hit the genetic lottery lol. It's fine. That's cold approach pickup for ya.

My wingman. The stupidly handsome guy is also in his 30s now like me. He actually doesn't really have a preference (and he also has a hot gf and tries hard not to cheat) but even at his age he has teenage girls throwing themselves at him.

 

[Scars]

Young women are so valuable that you can clearly see an element of gaslighting on this thread. @Jesse Pinkman, who can generally be counted on for the most BluePill posts on this forum, says there’s something “mentally wrong” with men liking young women.

I suspect that uncooperative Woke Beta Males want to gaslight everyone into only banging women 40+, while they take your kids to Trans Story Hour.

Don't get me wrong. I will bang women of all ages. Older women are more experienced and more fun to have sex with, but younger women are hotter and in their prime. That is undeniable. She can literally just lay there and look cute, I don't care. I'm still gonna get my nut.

 

[Scars]

yeah, that might be the case a fair bit of the time, i'm sure. I don't really swim in PUA circles in real life so can't be sure, but I imagine there's something to be said for PUA guys who never got laid in their youth and now try to chase young girls to catch up kind of thing

Not really the case for me. I got laid a 'normal' amount when i was young and slept with my share of 14-16 year olds. I hit a decent dry spell in my mid 20's which is when i found the community. (that's another story, but after experimenting with a tonne of 'bro science' I learnt that the only 'game' is numbers game!)

But 18 ish is still my preference. I've fairly recently, now in my 30's, banged a few 17-19 year olds. It's just a preference. I find them infinitely hotter. I didn't really 'miss out' in my youth so that argument doesn't really apply to me, tbh (i was no stud, but got some!)

But of course my hit rate is low! I get rejected a **** tonne by these young girls but that's just the game. Need to keep approaching until you find the teens who like how i look. It will always come down too attraction. I also get rejected a lot by women closer to my own age who happen to have hit the genetic lottery lol. It's fine. That's cold approach pickup for ya.

My wingman. The stupidly handsome guy is also in his 30s now like me. He actually doesn't really have a preference (and he also has a hot gf and tries hard not to cheat) but even at his age he has teenage girls throwing themselves at him.

Aren't you worried about being 30+ and banging 17 year olds? Where I'm from that is definitely illegal. You must live in Switzerland or something, or just don't give a fvck.

 

[characternote]

Aren't you worried about being 30+ and banging 17 year olds? Where I'm from that is definitely illegal. You must live in Switzerland or something, or just don't give a fvck.

England.
The age of consent here is 16!
We have no age gap laws at all. I could be 120 and still bang 16 year olds haha

 

[oliver109]

TBH, this obsession older guys have with younger women is always rooted in some sort of mental or emotional flaw. Yeah dudes will cite biology or whatever but most of the times it is an ego thing. Older guy never had success with younger women back in his day and now he wants to make up for lost time. I've known more than a handful of dudes like this who daygame college campuses despite being 30+, go to college parties, hit up college bars, and try to go to young nightclubs.

Very rarely, if ever, have I seen these guys actually pull. Most of the times, everyone is sort of laughing at them while the younger woman is usually going off with some Chad her age. Almost all the time these guys swear off women their age and obsess over chasing younger women, often failing and coming off as creeps in the process. The success is rarely if ever there.

When I have seen older guys have success with younger women, they normally went for women their own age and had great relationships there. They had a lot of fun with women their own age because they were fun guys to be around. Younger women picked up on this and opened up more to these older guys who didn't want them but then it just ended up happening.

I agree with you here, you tell it how it is but i would say i am one of those slightly older guys who did not have success with girls in his teens or early 20s and i do kinda wanna enjoy the fun now but i feel that there are barriers, the age difference i don't know how much of a problem that is as i grew up in a fairly similar era to todays 19 year olds whereas those who are in their mid 40s or older grew up in a very different sort of era before the internet, youtube, multiculturalism or anything that tends to characterise those who have been young since the noughties or after. I think the biggest issue is the cool factor, 30 year old men who date 19 year olds are not seen as cool unless they are pop stars, models etc, they are seen as invading on what should be a very young mans space.