Is it really possible for there to be involuntarily celibate women?

[devilkingx2]

Reality is most men could have a woman and always could. They are either lazy, or entitled and expect someone way out of their sphere.

I'd say that's the case for women.

For most men it's more of a question of how many approaches are you willing to do and how much rejection can you handle.

For the rest of the men it's generally a case of doing some relatively quick and easy self improvement first (hygiene, style, health, confidence, dance skills, etc.), then approaching.

 

[devilkingx2]

(sexually abused children tend to grow up hyper sexual, bisexual and deviant).

That's my ideal kind of girl so I actually support the gay agenda now.

 

[Bigpapa]

I'm not Italian but everyone knows Europe is ghey af anyway. History has proven that. Also what do you mean "mainstream". Some random guy you know or some clickbait article you read isn't indicarive of Italians or men as a whole. Nonetheless, if you lot think men are fluid, you're projecting and speaking for yourself. Again, there's some personal, embedded queer related issues you lot need to address, personally, and you're trying to projecting it on men as a whole to make yourselves feel better. Idk how sex deprived I may be or how annoying women are, never have I once considered fecking a dude bc I'm straight. It really is that simple.

no man ,I asked at least a few dozen of Italian guys and all of them know about this and say that it is fairly normal

you not living in Europe and most likely not even knowing where Italy is on the map makes you one of the last persons to have an opinion about this

also , Europe my be gay af based on what you said , but at the same time your ancestors were European which technically makes you gay af

Also feminism and the woke Agenda originated from America not from Europe and was propagated to the world by the American entertainment industry

simping also originated from America . If you notice , most of the incels are from america

 

[HaleyBaron]

I support men having to approach to get women. That's what we're made for: to brave the unknown. Plus I think it's a sweet deal on our end compared to what women have and don't have. We're also the only gender that can **** endlessly without needing connections. A girl has sex and suddenly she's hooked to the guy. lol

 

[Bigpapa]

I hope you don't really buy into this bullshjt about Americans... Do you really think we're that dumb? A nation filled with dumb a$$es doesn't become a super power.

I never said that they are stupid , I just said that they arrogant and extremely self centered . Basically they think that the entire world is America

 

[IKO69]

I was reading this, and it got me thinking:

What Do Female Incels Really Want?

Online, groups of women have started using the rhetoric of the incel movement. But to what end?

www.theatlantic.com

my opinion: I'm not buying this; in a dating market where even the Pig Woman can get loads of messages from desperate men, I think it is impossible for a woman to be incelibate.

Well yeah, but you have to remember 1,000,000 positive messages from rando undesirables doesn't mean anything. They aren't even on that woman's radar.

If a guy receives a compliment a lot of times it means something because it doesn't happen often. The guy only gets them when he has already scored with the woman/the woman has decided she is interested in the guy and is attempting to lure him in. This is not the case with women, who are complimented all the time by all members of society. While women won't suffer from involuntary celibacy like men, they have a warped sense of things because of all the attention, especially from "desirable guys". The measuring stick for women, how they come to understand their "worth" is by the "quality" of men who approach/compliment them.

If you are accustomed to having something for so long and it was to get taken from you, you would become upset. If a woman is used to getting with the most desirable guys then she will hold out for them thinking that is what she deserves. When the interest from desirable men "dries up" this is when women suffer.

 

[HaleyBaron]

I don't agree with this. Prostitution wouldn't exist if it were true.

Prostitutes are scorned women.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Sure. The more sex they have, the less the connection there is. Which is why *****s are like the most destroyed women there is.

 

[thelambofdeth]

no man ,I asked at least a few dozen of Italian guys and all of them know about this and say that it is fairly normal

you not living in Europe and most likely not even knowing where Italy is on the map makes you one of the last persons to have an opinion about this

also , Europe my be gay af based on what you said , but at the same time your ancestors were European which technically makes you gay af

Also feminism and the woke Agenda originated from America not from Europe and was propagated to the world by the American entertainment industry

simping also originated from America . If you notice , most of the incels are from america

Um...sorry but gheyness isn't hereditary..lols it doesn't work like that. Also simping doesn't make you GHEY. If being annoyed at females and sexless made you ghey, the US would be the ghey capital on the planet bc this is simp and incel central. Which only reinforces my point. If you're ghey, you're ghey...you don't suddenly become that way bc you're bored or you lack options. At least not if you're a man. If that were the case, all the millions of simps and incels would just feck each other. You don't just wake up one day and decide to suck a dix...not.if.you're.straight.

 

[Bigpapa]

Um...sorry but gheyness isn't hereditary..lols it doesn't work like that. Also simping doesn't make you GHEY. If being annoyed at females and sexless made you ghey, the US would be the ghey capital on the planet bc this is simp and incel central. Which only reinforces my point. If you're ghey, you're ghey...you don't suddenly become that way bc you're bored or you lack options. At least not if you're a man. If that were the case, all the millions of simps and incels would just feck each other. You don't just wake up one day and decide to suck a dix...not.if.you're.straight.

no , you are cherry picking what I am saying .
If you would have had a point then what happens in Italy and soon most likely in other countries would not have happened if sexuality could not be influenced or if sexuality would have been fixated

most gay guys are not 100% gay . That is the thing that you fail to understand . They mainly **** trannies or whatever due to their high sex drive and lack of female viable options

if you ask them they are not gay because trannies from their point of view are women not men

 

[thelambofdeth]

"Hmmm... It's a nice sunny day today. It's a good day to give djck sucking a try" I can't see it either.... Maybe this debate could be summed up as: Women are sexually fluid, while men are born into one of three categories. Straight, Gay, or Bi-sexual.

Period. A literal heterosexual doesnt decide he's going to blow flutes now bc he going through a bad spell with women. He was either a repressed ghey dude or a bi. You can't just will yourself to be ghey, you can't dictate what you're attracted to or what your body responds to.

The fact that people are trying to debate this is very telling of how many closeted queers there are here, though.

 

[thelambofdeth]

A paper bag over a woman's head is a far cry from a c0ck and balls between her legs.

Thank you. I'm done replying to this thread. People here are just being ghey or retarded for for the sake of it. Ofc an ugly women doesn't compare to a man. There is a massive difference between a VAGINA and man ass. There are plenty of times during a drought where I considered picking up some ugly slot, never once did I think "gee, I just need a hole, might as well be a man, derp". Attractive or not, the one prerequisite for a straight man is that the orifice in question belong to a biological woman. At least for me.

 

[thelambofdeth]

Fair enough, but explain what goes on in prisons where the only access to sex is with other men.

I realize the idea is repulsive but you're not an incel or simp who can't get sex with women.

Some men find having sex with a fat girl equally repulsive, but yet there are men right here on this forum who admit to being so dry, they'll have sex with an obese woman, to fulfill that biological need.

Why are you comparing prisoners to regular people? There's no correlation. Those men are broken, damaged, and mentally ill and that's entirely different situation. A whole different discussion. It's more about strict assertion of power and exploitation there.

It's repulsive bc I'm straight...period. I am not some Chad who can get hot women whenever I want. I have approach anxiety and have had many dry spells with women. Again, never have I ever considered anything.but.a.woman. Why tf is that so hard for people to comprehend??

If you find having sex with a fat girl equally as disgusting as doing a guy, you're not straight...period. Idc what you read on the forum, that's common sense. Again, you cannot compare sex with an ugly or far girl, to sex with a MAN....ffs. Straight men have a biological need to feck a woman...this forum turns basic 1+1 into rocket science, I swear....

 

[Mike32ct]

As a guy that has done some extreme dry spells (not by choice), my order of priority would be something like...

1. Hot chick
2. Average chick
3. Ugly chick
4. Fap
5. Very ugly chick
6. Give up on sex completely.
.
.
.
Infinity. Another dude

Straight women have their own priority list. It probably goes something like...

1. Chad guy
2. Chadlite guy
3. Vibrator
4. Bi Stacey chick
5. Bi Average (Becky) chick
6. 3 month dry spell
7. High Tier Normie (HTN) guy
8. 4.5 month dry spell
9. 8 month dry spell
10. Average guy.
11. Give up on sex.
12. Below average guy. (See #11)