Is it just me or has online dating going down the tubes?

Wilko

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I'll offer a slightly different perspective.

I don't think OLD has changed all that much, but I have. My tolerance for BS is way down, my standards are way up. At the risk of projecting OP, I reckon this explains a good part of your dissatisfaction with OLD at the moment.

I have some pretty fond memories of the girls I met and ended up fvcking through OLD, but I honestly think I'd end up disqualifying 90% of them before the first date if I came across them today.

Bottom of the barrel? Nah, I don't buy that necessarily - I think OLD is pretty representative of the real world (ain't that a scary thought). A person's flaws are immediately and glaringly obvious online thanks to their profile; in the real world it just takes a while to realise the full extent of the horror, that's all.

And since I'm feeling self-important, here's my unsolicited advice directed at no one in particular:)

Dial yourself up to eleven online. Don't get lost in the noise. Women should either love or hate your profile. Even if you manage to alienate 95% of em, you're still gonna be left with the 5% who really, really dig your schtick. Let them initiate. Pre-selection for the win.
 
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I'll offer a slightly different perspective.

I don't think OLD has changed all that much, but I have. My tolerance for BS is way down, my standards are way up. At the risk of projecting OP, I reckon this explains a good part of your dissatisfaction with OLD at the moment.

I have some pretty fond memories of the girls I met and ended up fvcking through OLD, but I honestly think I'd end up disqualifying 90% of them before the first date if I came across them today.

Bottom of the barrel? Nah, I don't buy that necessarily - I think OLD is pretty representative of the real world (ain't that a scary thought). A person's flaws are immediately and glaringly obvious online thanks to their profile; in the real world it just takes a while to realise the full extent of the horror, that's all.

And since I'm feeling self-important, here's my unsolicited advice directed at no one in particular:)

Dial yourself up to eleven online. Don't get lost in the noise. Women should either love or hate your profile. Even if you manage to alienate 95% of em, you're still gonna be left with the 5% who really, really dig your schtick. Let them initiate. Pre-selection for the win.
I would say this is definitely a more realistic view. I've met great women on OLD and some not so great ones. I've also met great and no so great women in real life. There is trash everywhere. It is true, I do disqualify girl's off OLD much easier now - I've learned the game.
 

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A lot of women have inflated ego's in real life too, not just online. I have a really hot friend who has this uuuuugly friend that ALWAYS hangs around her. When I say always, my friend recently got engaged and her friend was right there when it happened. It was my friend, her boyfriend and her friend. Whenever they go anywhere her ugly friend has to tag along. I feel bad for the guy having to go along with it but it's his damn fault for not doing something about it. I can imagine when they get married that this same girl will be hanging around their house all the time and they won't ever have any time alone.lol This friend of hers has a bad overbite, kinda chunky but her ego is inflated bad because she fvcks EVERYONE. I don't see how some guys are so desperate but she gets d!ck all the time. I'm about to throwup just thinking about it.
 

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I think quality looks wise is still there. I m in the upper age range for most 30s chicks I d average 1 date for every 10 I messaged about the same as it was back when. What has changed is they have bigger shopping lists, flake more often and want more attention prior to date. E.g. got nexted by a couple of chicks coz I wouldn't give them my Facebook prior to meeting up. Screw that - if they re that addicted to social media I have zero interest. On pics for older guys I d say its more the tight T-shirt shot than shirt off. I still think its an excellent way to practice your game. But u probably won't meet your unicorn there.
 

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I would say this is definitely a more realistic view. I've met great women on OLD and some not so great ones. I've also met great and no so great women in real life. There is trash everywhere. It is true, I do disqualify girl's off OLD much easier now - I've learned the game.
You know what the real dilemma is?

My game was objectively worse "back then", but I was having a lot more fun - that's not how this is supposed to work!

Granted, I'm not providing validation to any damaged women these days, but still!
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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Yes they are ****tier than years ago but they are still a good source of spinning plates.

Why not OnLine Date? It provides mostly ****ty fun, speckled with plates to spin.

It is easy to do and pretty fun to play with so IMO there is no reason not to take advantage of a possible chance.

Don't give up just adapt. Online dating has always been a back up so who cares? Back it up :p Play the stupid game because any plates matter even to girls closer to home. They care about the stupidest plate online. Use that :)
 

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I think quality looks wise is still there. I m in the upper age range for most 30s chicks I d average 1 date for every 10 I messaged about the same as it was back when. What has changed is they have bigger shopping lists, flake more often and want more attention prior to date. E.g. got nexted by a couple of chicks coz I wouldn't give them my Facebook prior to meeting up. Screw that - if they re that addicted to social media I have zero interest. On pics for older guys I d say its more the tight T-shirt shot than shirt off. I still think its an excellent way to practice your game. But u probably won't meet your unicorn there.
What is "then" and "now" LIke 2005 vs 2015? Just curious.

Perhaps your viewpoint is it's crappier because you are older and can see it more for what it always was. We were young and dumb and hypnotized by the world, and now we see right thru it.
 

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Yeah I guess it was 2005 ouch life goes by.

Your objectives of course change over time originally I used to use it to get a lot of ass and have adventures. now I'm much more ltr oriented - being on the dating scene carries too much overhead these days.

like I said in my post I'm actually still positive about o l d. Like several posters have said it's a reflection of the current dating market full of game so game on. I think another point worth making is it seems to me like the market is more fragmented now. So u probably need to run multiple profiles across multiple sites targeted to your favorites demographics to have great success. Which of course is a time suck so yeah like everyone says I consider it a backup plan.
 

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Fvck OLD

The majority of biatches on OLD are defective. The bottom of the barrel. They are either
socially retarded or physically defective. Look at it this way....it's easy for the average woman
to get laid/meet a guy.....because generally when they're out and about they are getting hit on...

So you have to ask yourself why aren't these biatches capable of meeting anybody in real??!!!!

Why are they online??? why are they not meeting people in real??? because they are defective bottom of the barrel ****e....

The problem also with OLD is that it was originally created for betas that can't meet women in real.....and just like on social media sites it's saturated with beta fvcks who are complimenting the fvck out of these defective biatches and thus giving them an overflated, exagerated opinion of themselves......fat whales thinking they are HB9's.......cross eyed Mary's thinking they are god's gift....

You'll always get the exception.......but generally I don't think it's worth the time suck.

Patience is a virtue, but we live in an instant society.

What kind of women are you after? Where/what kind of situations can you find her in real?
Bingo..hawt and normal chicks get hit on out in real world. I never understood why would a good lookin descent chick need online dating..makes no sense IMO
 

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A guy with any game at all should be able to get a steady stream of HB7ish single moms to fvck, who typically require only a couple drinks at a bar beforehand. That's not exactly the pinnacle of achievement in regard to women, but there are worse problems to have.
 

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I am the most cynical fool on here and still think I found a keeper online. All I can do more is put a Gps in her car to be 100 percent sure but who wants to go through with that? If she finds it you are done.
 

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When I first started using Match, PO, and OKC about 5 years ago, I was killing it. I live in Miami and often, I had too many prospects than I could handle. My looks are still the same, my profile is still solid, and my game has stayed solid too. For the past year though, the quantity of decent women on there as dropped significantly, the amount of flakes is way up, and it's plain harder to get anything good going. I feel as if Tinder and apps like that have ruined online dating - it went from a girl investing a little time to making a nice profile and emailing guys back and forth, setting up dates, to "swipe left, swipe right..I just love the attention". I thought it was just a fluke but it's consistently getting worse. Anyone else experiencing this or is it just me?
Where you at? I'm in Midtown.
 

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I am the most cynical fool on here and still think I found a keeper online. All I can do more is put a Gps in her car to be 100 percent sure but who wants to go through with that? If she finds it you are done.
That's why you install it in a manner that it CANNOT be found. In this day and age it is good to VERIFY, it always was... Cheaters get on their conversations about 5 minutes after pulling off in the car. They could've been acting all prude in the house, and in the car talking about getting railed by strange dudes.
 

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Bingo..hawt and normal chicks get hit on out in real world. I never understood why would a good lookin descent chick need online dating..makes no sense IMO
They do it for instant validation on demand. Some of em like using it like a shopping catalog. Some of em like to c0ck tease a couple dozen guys at the same time.
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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I am the most cynical fool on here and still think I found a keeper online. All I can do more is put a Gps in her car to be 100 percent sure but who wants to go through with that? If she finds it you are done.
Stick a keylogger on her computer, if you're really suspicious....
 

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They do it for instant validation on demand. Some of em like using it like a shopping catalog. Some of em like to c0ck tease a couple dozen guys at the same time.
The majority of girls that have a life are not on online dating sites........why would a girl who's getting hit on in real and who has an active social and work life decide to go onto an online dating site which still like it or not carries stigma........

I would bet a kidney that those relationships where the guy approached (had the balls to approach) the girl in real : be that in a bar, a wedding, danse class, the supermarket, the street, night class, coffee shop, bus stop whatever WILL LAST LONGER AND BE MORE SUCCESSFULL THAN THOSE COUPLES WHO MET ON LINE!!!

why you ask. I'm glad you asked..

People talk about dread games in relationships....and people talk about competition anxiety in relationships.......

You think your women is not going to view you differently if you pulled her off the fvcking web than she would if you cold approached her??

Course she is......you cold approach your woman and she knows that you are capable of getting a woman with your own skills and your own game. She knows it......

how many times do people ask during the course of your relationship "well how did you meet?"

Story 1: Well he had the balls to approach me...(approach story)....Yes I am the fvcking man.

Story 2: Well we met on line (online story??) Yes I am a fvcking nerd...
 

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