is it dangerous calling her out for being an attention wh0re/uses guys?

[big weezy]

i just had a bad action date end with us walking back arguing about how she's an attention wh0re and uses guys leading them on and how i disapprove of that.. is this very bad territory to go down?

the actual action date was fine.. we had fun.. lots of kino, intimate even but still no dice.

i felt i was calling her out on her bullsh1t but at same time didn't do enough to increase attraction.. i already accepted she wasn't into me and friendzoned so i didnt care too much but in future i need to avoid such altercations..

 

[mahoney]

well i guess you don't care about this particular one so it doesn't matter - but seriously telling people you disapprove of them is really not a good luck unless you want to seem like their dad

wait, the actual date was fine? and then you decided to tell her you disapproved of her...and called her an attention *****? why would you do this? i would imagine this girl is going to tell everyone she knows you did this

 

[Maxtro]

Seems kind of pointless to me. What did you hope to accomplish?

 

[KarmaSutra]

It's not the worst thing you can do.

It shows you have a standard you'll never fall below. It shows you don't need to reward her bad behavior. It shows she's just a piece until she's proven otherwise.

Let her stew on it. It'll make her drip honey.

 

[Ace_Magnamus]

well weezy you did it again

you're 0 for 3 now doing this

when are you going to learn telling off a chick who isnt interested in you wont work.


To below to weezy:

for your information the other 1 who i told off deserved it.. and i'd do it again. she was being a b1tch and there was no reason for her to be impolite as she was.

this 1 is a different story, i actually went on a date with her and she pretty much told me she uses guys then gets rid of them.

yeah you told her off weezy.....but she embarrassed you.....you suffered public humiliation over it...you said you lost your pick up place because of it....what good was that? she won....you lost.....she beat you....she came out ahead...youre telling her off didnt do anything to help you.

why didn't you use her then get rid of her? you got rid of her before you used her....wasnt smart...maybe you could of got laid man. that was a mistake....you should of told her off after if you has a shot at it.

 

[big weezy]

well weezy you did it again

you're 0 for 3 now doing this

when are you going to learn telling off a chick who isnt interested you wont work.

for your information the other 1 who i told off deserved it.. and i'd do it again. she was being a b1tch and there was no reason for her to be impolite as she was.

this 1 is a different story, i actually went on a date with her and she pretty much told me she uses guys then gets rid of them.

 

[big weezy]

well i guess you don't care about this particular one so it doesn't matter - but seriously telling people you disapprove of them is really not a good luck unless you want to seem like their dad

wait, the actual date was fine? and then you decided to tell her you disapproved of her...and called her an attention *****? why would you do this? i would imagine this girl is going to tell everyone she knows you did this

tbh it was an action date.. but at same time they always say on here to just call them up to 'hang' out and then game them on the date.. like not actually be direct with your intentions verbally and let her read between the lines.

in my experience this is a bad move for me personally cos if i'm not direct from the start i get friendzoned immediately like if im not 'masculine' enough to ask her out for a drink etc so have gone down the action 'date' route which is fun.. but doesn't achieve what i want.

the actual 'date' part went fine.. it was the walk back when i jokingly said 'so how do u dress when u normally go out?' she goes 'i dress up' i go 'so how would u dress for me?' she goes 'casual.. very casual..' not in jokingly teasing way.. a very serious im not interested in you tone. that didn't phase me at 1st but then she indicated i was too short for her (we're the same height and she's tall) so then i knew she wasnt interested..

ok i was a little bitter but then she starts to tell me how '95% of her friends are guys' major red flag and how she cycles guys like a conveyor belt where her interactions with men are short lived.. which basically told me she was a user of men for their attention to validate herself and has many orbiters she accumulates on a daily basis. and she'll go for drink/dinner continuously with a guy leading them on..

this is when i started to criticise her cos i already knew then she wasn't into me.. but i felt she used me for her own personal gain and under the suppposedly 'nice' exterior reading in between the lines she basically is a low quality woman.

maybe i dont have the jist of it right.. we had a good time playing golf, lots of kino.. BUT if i didn't make the flirty comment about how she would dress for me if we went out i would be falsely led on thereafter cos i felt i was already disqualified from our 1st meeting and this was a punt.

she tried to get as rise out of me after when i finished arguing/debating with her about 'oh last summer this gorgeous spanish guy took me out blah blah blah' i knew it was to p1ss me off but i didn't fall for it and chose to side with the guy in the story and called her out for using him rather than act jealous and bitter..

either way i found out what she's really like however i felt on some level calling her out on her BS might have worked reverse psychology wise in terms of me saying she's this.. her denying it and proving otherwise but i think it was necessary for me to obviously showcase my good qualities too and not just call her out for being an attention wh0re who uses men.

tbh i dont care if she tells everyone i criticised her.. she only has like 5-6 good girlfriends (who i bet any money on is exactly like her (has 95% male friends) cos no other girl wants to be friends with them so they gang up together to discuss how what they do is ok) cos what i said is true.. i established to her that 'i lose respect for girls who say 'oh well blah blah blah.. he's not worth it cos you're basically saying you're better than the other person' and that she's a user of men and shallow. she obviously denies this and believes what she wants to believe.

the very least it'll show to her that i dont have respect for her anymore (not that she probably cares) but she def wouldn't have anyone critique what she does in such a conscise manner and that i dont have interest in her anymore.. hell.. maybe it didn't do that at all and i came across as bitter who knows.. all i know is that the way the interaction seemed to happen was she rejected me.. then told me she has 95% guy friends.. i critqued her for being a user of men and basically said im not interested anymore cos i dont have respect for her.

was this the wrong thing to do under these circumstances?

anyway enough talk about her, wasted too much energy thinking about this 1.. time to focus on this coming weeks batch of numbers to accumulate.

 

[big weezy]

well weezy you did it again

you're 0 for 3 now doing this

when are you going to learn telling off a chick who isnt interested in you wont work.


To below to weezy:




yeah you told her off weezy.....but she embarrassed you.....you suffered public humiliation over it...you said you lost your pick up place because of it....what good was that? she won....you lost.....she beat you....she came out ahead...youre telling her off didnt do anything to help you.

why didn't you use her then get rid of her? you got rid of her before you used her....wasnt smart...maybe you could of got laid man. that was a mistake....you should of told her off after if you has a shot at it.

how did she embarass me? she didn't embarass me.. the idiot guy who works there came running out making a scene.. there was no need for him to run out and grab me.

the girl was being rude not replying at all, in this country you address people and speak to them if spoken to even in a rude way but you at least address them.. she behaved in a manner which was extremely rude acting as if she was better than me and i was some sort of slave she could just swat away. she deserved it. it was a failed pick up i know, but i wouldn't walk out of there without telling her she was a rude b1tch. i'd do it again.

haha.. i only lost it temporarily, im back there again picking up. only if i bump into her again it might be an issue but i dont give a sh1t, cross that bridge when it comes.

use who and get rid of who? which 1? neither were interested.. the 1 i went on date with established that, disqualified me on 2 counts and wasted my time when i coulda been out picking up another girl, there was no way i was going to get to sleep with her so i just critiqued her for using guys when she started to give me more info about how she lives her life.

 

[PapiChulo]

You get my sympathy for having balls and not giving a f$&k. It seem like it bothers you a bit. Still, the main consensus is that it is never worth calling a woman out, and you communicate thru actions not words. I would not be able to resist this sweet opportunity either. Ha ha

 

[Igetit!]

i actually went on a date with her and she pretty much told me she uses guys then gets rid of them.

She actually said that,huh? That makes my spider sense tingle. She actually told you something that I believe she KNOWS would be a turn-off for a guy.


So then the question would be....Why would she PURPOSELY say something THAT SHE KNOWS would mostly likely turn a guy off...and while on a date no less.


She either didn't like you and was trying to sabotage the date,or it was some sort of test....and if it was a test,well....as I'm sure you already know,you didn't pass it,lol.



I'm with Maxtro.....what was your purpose in calling her out? I mean,what were you thinking the result would be after you did this? Were you expecting some type of remorse or contrition from her?



Were you expecting her to "see the light" or "the error of her ways"? Did you think she'd go,"Yeah,I know. You're right. I really shouldn't be using people,it's not fair to them. Thanks for calling me out,and I'm seriously going to change"?


Is that why you did it,or was it simply to get your anger and frustration at her behavior out and make yourself feel better? You weren't expecting to rehabilitate her and make her change,were you? :crackup:



What I'd like to know is.....WHY did you take this girl out on a date? In your original post,you asked if calling this girl out on her being an AW and using guys was a "bad territory" to go down or not.



Well,you went down it. You went down it,and look where it's gotten you. So if this place where you find yourself at is where YOU INTENDED TO GO,then mission accomplished,but if your goal was to....oh,I don't know....maybe have sex with the girl,you most likely hindered your efforts.



I could be wrong,but as far as I know,calling a girl out for using people then discarding them rarely leads to a sexual interest in their part.



Something you said caught my attention. This thing right here....

i was calling her out on her bullsh1t but at same time didn't do enough to increase attraction

You said that you were calling her out on her bullsh!t,but AT THE SAME TIME....you didn't do what was necessary to make her attracted to you.


So I go back to my original question.....WHY did you even bother to take this girl out to begin with? If you're not going to do what's needed to make her attracted to you,but instead pick fights with her.....uhh...what's the point?



Look dude,I "get it"...I do,I understand you being upset,angry,or agitated when seeing Aw-ish type behavior in girls,and this girl coming out and saying what she said,doesn't help the matter,but when it comes to women and some of their behaviors we men can't stand,you have to MAKE A CHOICE.



Which one do you want,do you want to be RIGHT,or do you want to HAVE SEX.
Do you want to argue and win,or do you want to have sex.
Do you want to "give her a piece of your mind",or do you want to see her naked.




You have to make a decision as to which one you want,because the majority of the time,you won't get both. If you want to let her know how despicable you find her behavior,then go for it,but don't expect her to want to jump in bed with you after you told her off.


Doesn't work that way my friend.

 

[PapiChulo]

I gotta say that attention wh$&@ring is a feminine trait that is found in every single woman. Its their nature, just as much as gold digging and having a long list of prerequisites. The thing is that not all of them are actually so open about it and are not afraid of being shamed. She, on the other hand, is proud of it! She knows or thinks that she is such high value. Her going out with you is simply saying: "surprise me", yet she already knew she would not be sleeping with you at the first place (going back to the original tread). Unless....You know that you didnt deliver, and probably was not even trying much. I would say that she is not the real insecure AW. She is a b!tch, that's all. P.S. I don't believe she planned to do you at all - thats for hot spanish studs.

 

[Fred_Scuttle]

i just had a bad action date end with us walking back arguing about how she's an attention wh0re and uses guys leading them on and how i disapprove of that.. is this very bad territory to go down?

the actual action date was fine.. we had fun.. lots of kino, intimate even but still no dice.

i felt i was calling her out on her bullsh1t but at same time didn't do enough to increase attraction.. i already accepted she wasn't into me and friendzoned so i didnt care too much but in future i need to avoid such altercations..

Now that's what I call an action date. Getting the negative fireworks already started on the big date. How did you bring that to a fight? Maybe you overreacted too soon? If you were intimate I don't see how you could fight or not get a future date. You found her out early so I say you did a good job on that. Don't get into anymore fights on your future dates.

 

[mahoney]

ok i was a little bitter ...

...this is when i started to criticise her cos i already knew then she wasn't into me.. but i felt she used me for her own personal gain and under the suppposedly 'nice' exterior reading in between the lines she basically is a low quality woman.

she tried to get as rise out of me after when i finished arguing/debating with her about 'oh last summer this gorgeous spanish guy took me out blah blah blah' i knew it was to p1ss me off but i didn't fall for it and chose to side with the guy in the story and called her out for using him rather than act jealous and bitter..



...she def wouldn't have anyone critique what she does in such a conscise manner and that i dont have interest in her anymore.. hell.. maybe it didn't do that at all and i came across as bitter who knows.. all i know is that the way the interaction seemed to happen was she rejected me.. then told me she has 95% guy friends.. i critqued her for being a user of men and basically said im not interested anymore cos i dont have respect for her.

was this the wrong thing to do under these circumstances?

well i wouldn't say wrong thing particularly if you're not interested in the girl...

but...

at same time, re-reading the bits i've quoted, it comes across that she did get to you, the date part was fine and then you kind of lost your temper a bit - it reads a little like you liked her but then with some of the stuff she said you couldn't handle that particularly but it clashed with the fact that part of you still liked her and thats why you lost your cool

i mean, people are the way they are and have different personality traits, its not your place with a person you don't really know, to call them out on that - i think you have to look at WHY you lost your cool, and why it got to you, and how you might deal with similar situations in the future (what if you meet a different girl who is really nice but you believe to have, say...25% of the traits you didn't like about this girl - how will you approach that?)

so in a way it doesnt hugely matter in regard to this particular girl, but it does matter in deciding how you are going to approach situations where you have disapproving feelings about a girls demeanour in future - or to put it another way how to deal with emergence of bitter feelings so early on with a person, and how to avoid losing your cool - because neither of these things are good things to display (especially with people you don't know)

 

[big weezy]

She actually said that,huh? That makes my spider sense tingle. She actually told you something that I believe she KNOWS would be a turn-off for a guy.


So then the question would be....Why would she PURPOSELY say something THAT SHE KNOWS would mostly likely turn a guy off...and while on a date no less.


She either didn't like you and was trying to sabotage the date,or it was some sort of test....and if it was a test,well....as I'm sure you already know,you didn't pass it,lol.



I'm with Maxtro.....what was your purpose in calling her out? I mean,what were you thinking the result would be after you did this? Were you expecting some type of remorse or contrition from her?



Were you expecting her to "see the light" or "the error of her ways"? Did you think she'd go,"Yeah,I know. You're right. I really shouldn't be using people,it's not fair to them. Thanks for calling me out,and I'm seriously going to change"?


Is that why you did it,or was it simply to get your anger and frustration at her behavior out and make yourself feel better? You weren't expecting to rehabilitate her and make her change,were you? :crackup:



What I'd like to know is.....WHY did you take this girl out on a date? In your original post,you asked if calling this girl out on her being an AW and using guys was a "bad territory" to go down or not.



Well,you went down it. You went down it,and look where it's gotten you. So if this place where you find yourself at is where YOU INTENDED TO GO,then mission accomplished,but if your goal was to....oh,I don't know....maybe have sex with the girl,you most likely hindered your efforts.



I could be wrong,but as far as I know,calling a girl out for using people then discarding them rarely leads to a sexual interest in their part.



Something you said caught my attention. This thing right here....





You said that you were calling her out on her bullsh!t,but AT THE SAME TIME....you didn't do what was necessary to make her attracted to you.


So I go back to my original question.....WHY did you even bother to take this girl out to begin with? If you're not going to do what's needed to make her attracted to you,but instead pick fights with her.....uhh...what's the point?



Look dude,I "get it"...I do,I understand you being upset,angry,or agitated when seeing Aw-ish type behavior in girls,and this girl coming out and saying what she said,doesn't help the matter,but when it comes to women and some of their behaviors we men can't stand,you have to MAKE A CHOICE.



Which one do you want,do you want to be RIGHT,or do you want to HAVE SEX.
Do you want to argue and win,or do you want to have sex.
Do you want to "give her a piece of your mind",or do you want to see her naked.




You have to make a decision as to which one you want,because the majority of the time,you won't get both. If you want to let her know how despicable you find her behavior,then go for it,but don't expect her to want to jump in bed with you after you told her off.


Doesn't work that way my friend.

tbh i dont think there was any purpose at all in why i did it just my personality that i dont like dishonest people who lead people on and use them etc.. i already knew she wasn't interested, this whole conversation was after the date when we were walking back from the golf place.. it was like 15min walk.

i already gave up and obviously was a little bitter and i guess i did it purely to somewhat try to make it seem she didn't just reject me but after finding out this new info from her communicating to her that i've lost interest and respect for her.. not that she cares but still it'll be some sort of ego blow to her not having my attention anymore and not being her orbiter.

tbh it wasnt really even a 'date' at least in my eyes not.. it was an action date where i was teaching her golf. i did do what was necessary at least what i thought during the date and maybe was a little surprise by her reaction after the date when i made the suggestion asking what she'd wear for me if we went out. her response of 'casual.. very casual' not in a flirtatious a straight blunt serious im not interested in you that way response is what set off the bitterness from me.. but i didnt show it i just played it off and continued.. i didnt start to lose it until she said '95% of my friends are guys'.

you always give good advice igetit so i always try to read everything you say cos it's congruent with how i believe i should be thinking and behaving.

i only called her out on this stuff AFTER the date had finished and she basically told me she wasn't interested.. you're right i lost my cool, it annoyed me.. but when she said '95% of my friends are guys..' this sent major red flag signals to me and made me realise that she was just using me.. that's what made me angry. but in that instance.. she didn't have any IL in me.. so the goal of sleeping with her was not gona happen right?

like i know she needs FEEL the attraction and during the date while we were playing golf and me kino'ing showing her to swing etc making jokes i dont believe was enough to even spark any interest.. she's just plain not into me and that's fine. i just didn't like being used and her general demeanour.


what could i have done different? more clearly.. what am i suppose to do to get a girl attracted who 'likes' you but wants to friendzone you.. i'm not her physical or ethnic type at all.. i was c0cky and funny, negged, kino'd all the basics.. maybe not enough DHV's (not sure what 1s to give) nor passed her annoying questions.. yet alas, nothing no attraction, nothing.

 

[bigneil]

"If you want to tell a woman off, by all means do it, but realize that it will not lead to sex" (Louis/Copeland).

 

[big weezy]

well i wouldn't say wrong thing particularly if you're not interested in the girl...

but...

at same time, re-reading the bits i've quoted, it comes across that she did get to you, the date part was fine and then you kind of lost your temper a bit - it reads a little like you liked her but then with some of the stuff she said you couldn't handle that particularly but it clashed with the fact that part of you still liked her and thats why you lost your cool

i mean, people are the way they are and have different personality traits, its not your place with a person you don't really know, to call them out on that - i think you have to look at WHY you lost your cool, and why it got to you, and how you might deal with similar situations in the future (what if you meet a different girl who is really nice but you believe to have, say...25% of the traits you didn't like about this girl - how will you approach that?)

so in a way it doesnt hugely matter in regard to this particular girl, but it does matter in deciding how you are going to approach situations where you have disapproving feelings about a girls demeanour in future - or to put it another way how to deal with emergence of bitter feelings so early on with a person, and how to avoid losing your cool - because neither of these things are good things to display (especially with people you don't know)

dont get me wrong she's hot, i'd do her.. i just realised after that she's a low quality girl and i dont approve of her behaviour and how she treats people. just using them for personal gain then disgarding them. fake friendships etc.

remember this is the girl who said she loves 'italians' i made the other thread about.. i already somewhat knew i was disqualified when i met her.. she just thought we were playing golf.. cos it's fun she wants to learn.. no romantic inclination. she deludes herself, uses me, uses other guys.

after the actual golf playing was when i made suggestions about our next meet up (i know you're not suppose to but it was more about what she would wear for me) and the answer i got told me everything i needed to know about her IL. maybe i should have left it and just waited and see but given i already knew i wasn't her 'type' and have no patience i wanted to know there and then where i stood cos i didnt wanna waste any more time on an uninterested girl.

how am i suppose to react to something like this in future?

i dont know.. i felt as if i did the right thing though i shouldnt have got angry or argued so much and should have demonstrated better qualities even if im not gona get her. i felt like ok shes rejected me but after this info about u, i've lost interest in you too.

she was just a basic attention wh0re.. girls dont like her.. the only girls she has as good gf's obviously are other 1s who have 95% male friends too so they get together agree on stuff and believe thats how it is and they're victims blah blah.. enough BS i've heard it all before from them.. they always say watch out for the girls who have mainly guy friends and no girl friends cos these girls are low quality. i felt like after the fact that she showed her lack of IL in me and in a way disrespect by talking about other guys etc i was free to say whatever the hell i liked cos i wasnt going to get her naked any time soon. she def wouldnt have anyone call her out on this before and it's her tough loss she get get some other shmo to play golf with her but it sure as hell isn't going to be me.. yeah she had fun with me.. but i wasted my time with her when i could have been out getting more numbers with interested girls.

 

[big weezy]

I gotta say that attention wh$&@ring is a feminine trait that is found in every single woman. Its their nature, just as much as gold digging and having a long list of prerequisites. The thing is that not all of them are actually so open about it and are not afraid of being shamed. She, on the other hand, is proud of it! She knows or thinks that she is such high value. Her going out with you is simply saying: "surprise me", yet she already knew she would not be sleeping with you at the first place (going back to the original tread). Unless....You know that you didnt deliver, and probably was not even trying much. I would say that she is not the real insecure AW. She is a b!tch, that's all. P.S. I don't believe she planned to do you at all - thats for hot spanish studs.

it's not the attention wh0ring so much.. i accept all hot women do it.. it's the degree of it.. like how full on of an attention seeker is she.. like stuff she says showed me she'd be a poor quality gf anyway regardless so it's good i know now, it's a shame she didn't have any IL in me cos we got on well, but i read between the lines and found out what kind of girl she is so despite the pleasantries she's a conceited b1tch at heart.

 

[bigneil]

I wish more men would disqualify women for being shallow and conceited. Thanks for your sacrifice big_wheezy.

 

[joverby]

I'm not even going to read all this stupid ****. Dude quit being such a bitter prick. What do you hope to accomplish to "tell people off" on your self righteous rants. No one gives a **** and will change for you.

You really should have the attitude, "Wow, this girls an attention whoring ***** who was just rude to me. **** her, I'm going to leave and never talk to her again." Not "I disagree so much with her lifestyle and personality I'm going to tell her about it, let her know she hurt me and try to make her change!"

Just sayin you might be happier over all if you don't let **** bug you so much. Especially **** you can't change or have a place to change.