Is internet dating really this bad for short men?

[Dust 2 Dust]

http://edatereview.com/0004802permalink.aspx

And this guy says that anyone less than 5'9" has no chance. I'm 4" shorter than that!

At 5'5 you're not gonna get any attention from online women. Short guys can use charm and social value to pull women offline though. That's just the way it is.

Any guy under 5'10 is gonna be at a disadvantage online because the top 10% over 6 foot McDreamy's are pulling all the online women while the other 90% get flakes and rejections. This is why online dating is a waste of time for most men. OLD only benefits women and the 9-10 rated guys.

 

[betheman]

At 5'5 you're not gonna get any attention from online women. Short guys can use charm and social value to pull women offline though. That's just the way it is.

Any guy under 5'10 is gonna be at a disadvantage online because the top 10% over 6 foot McDreamy's are pulling all the online women while the other 90% get flakes and rejections. This is why online dating is a waste of time for most men. OLD only benefits women and the 9-10 rated guys.

this is very true, OD is pretty much a wasteland for guys sub 5' 9", try putting a profile on, as I have done, start at 6' 2" then decrease it over time in increments of 1", the drop off in interest is very significant

 

[seasonedplayer]

this is very true, OD is pretty much a wasteland for guys sub 5' 9", try putting a profile on, as I have done, start at 6' 2" then decrease it over time in increments of 1", the drop off in interest is very significant

Yes, I upped my height from 5 foot 9 to 5 foot 10 and got a massive increase in emails

 

[Burroughs]

the analysis on maturedj's link
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1. F-1

This female is extremely attractive, as rated by 10 males. Her average rating on a scale of 1-10 was a 9.37. Most would describe her as a clone of Angela Jolie.

2. F-2

This female is average, as rated by 10 males. Her average rating on a scale of 1-10 was a 6.78. She is about 10 lbs overweight, but in no way unattractive.

3. F-3

This female is a somewhat unattractive, as rated by 10 males. Her average rating on a scale of 1-10 was a 4.52. She is about 40 lbs overweight, but not hideous.

4. M-1

This male is extremely attractive. He is 6'0" and looks like Mc. Dreamy, as rated by 10 females. His average rating on a scale of 1-10 was a 8.44.

5. M-2

This male is average, as rated by 10 females. His average rating on a scale of 1-10 was a 6.13. He is still an average weight, but is only 5'9" tall.

6. M-3

This male is also average as rated by 10 females. His average rating on a scale of 1-10 was a 5.65. He is only 5'7" but still average weight. The only thing separating this male from M-2 is the height, in which he is 2 inches shorter.

Here are the results over the period of 1 week:

F-1 Winks: 2651 Emails: 752

F-2 Winks: 2101 Emails: 721

F-3 Winks: 985 Emails: 203

M-1 Winks: 245 Emails: 68

M-2 Winks: 11 Emails: 2

M-3 Winks: 2 Emails: 0

wow!

 

[don't]

Seals aint necessarily badass. they get little or no hand to hand training, and not all that much even with the M16, almost no training with the pistol. Such things are not their main focus or need, you see. They have to learn commo skills, lots of teamwork type stuff, which has nearly zero application for individual defense, actually. Size means little or nothing, as vs skill. Bruce lee was a tiny guy, but his speed would let him pluck the eye out of any untrained man before the guy could do spit about it. Once they are holding their faces in their hands, kick to knee, down they go. then kick to kidney, tailbone top of head, base of skull, between shoulder blades, to rear of jaw, solar plexus, side of knee, etc. IN a few seconds, any man can be rendered into being nothing more than a pile of jello, screaming or silent, as the skilled man wishes.

 

[Nutz]

At 5'5 you're not gonna get any attention from online women.

Only if you put your real height in your profile. That's dumb IMO. Get some lifts/elevator shoes that give you a couple extra inches and wear those on your first couple dates. If she's digging you and you hook up, that point she's not going to care that much that you told a white lie about being a few inches shorter...unless she's a grade A superficial flake, in which case she'd be doing you a favor by ending it.

9 times out of 10 height being attractive is just a matter of perception. You can get past her "desire" for a taller guy pretty easily in all actuality as it's got nothing to do with what they want and everything to do with the emotions you give them.

 

[Poonani Maker]

I wouldn't call it stupidity. Most "fighting" sports like boxing, wrestling, etc. have weight classes. This is because, generally speaking, the bigger guys have the advantage, all other things being equal. Are the people who run these sports stupid?

I've seen several mma matches with giants vs average guys with the average guy winning. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW0wxUiZU70

Hardly anybody's a Seal, true, but if you have just 70% of their training (running/pushup regiment) as a short guy, you can defend your woman vs most big guys. It's mostly in the mind that doesn't stop, that doesn't quit with pain in a serious fight on the street or in war getting shot but keeping going etc.

 

[Zarky]

I say I'm 5'9 when I'm actually 5'8 standing as straight as I can.

It definitely knocks out a certain percentage of women from the start, but what are you going to do about it? It's not like I can compare myself to another myself who's taller.

So I just keep plugging away. It's all about numbers. Contact more chicks. Some will like you, some won't. And the world goes 'round.

 

[Jitterbug]

I wouldn't call it stupidity. Most "fighting" sports like boxing, wrestling, etc. have weight classes. This is because, generally speaking, the bigger guys have the advantage, all other things being equal. Are the people who run these sports stupid?

They also have rules, whereas when you're fighting to protect your loved ones, there is no rule.

Most of the real life rambos (e.g look up the Victoria Cross recipients in the wars) are not huge muscular mesomorphs.

 

[d!ckmojo]

Most of the real life rambos (e.g look up the Victoria Cross recipients in the wars) are not huge muscular mesomorphs.

'Sif brah~ look at this VC recipient: http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/when-you-apologise-you-should-just-say-im-sorry/

 

[Jitterbug]

I said most, not all.

 

[d!ckmojo]

That guy is a tank, but yeah I know what you mean. I saw him standing next to two other VC winners at the cricket one time and he dwarfed them...

 

[020204]

Seals are pretty badass I would say, they have to swim in the arctic. The generation of men who fought in both World Wars were on average in the 5''8 range. If you look at sports like gymnastics, motorsports, surfing to name a few, you will see many men of shorter frame. I don't buy into this crap about being at a disadvantage being shorter, most of the taller guys I see have lampost like bodies, I definetly feel really good about my body and am not that tall, my physique makes up for it. Style is only 5''6 and is banging the hotest tail in the world.

 

[zekko]

Reading this, it really is amazing how much emphasis women put on height. I knew height was an attraction factor, but it really is amazing.
I'm a little biased with height myself, actually. I heavily prefer the little cuties who are between 5'4" and 5'6". Definitely no taller than 5'8".

Size means little or nothing, as vs skill.

Yeah, I wasn't trying to imply that a little guy could never beat up a big guy. I'm sure we've all seen it happen numberous times. I was saying that, generally speaking, all things being equal, a bigger guy usually has the advantage over a little guy. And women know this. That's just common sense.

I'm not talking about gun battles or Bruce Lee vs. some tall guy down the street who's never had a fight in his life.
:kick:

 

[SoldMySoul]

Only if you put your real height in your profile. That's dumb IMO. Get some lifts/elevator shoes that give you a couple extra inches and wear those on your first couple dates. If she's digging you and you hook up, that point she's not going to care that much that you told a white lie about being a few inches shorter...unless she's a grade A superficial flake, in which case she'd be doing you a favor by ending it.

9 times out of 10 height being attractive is just a matter of perception. You can get past her "desire" for a taller guy pretty easily in all actuality as it's got nothing to do with what they want and everything to do with the emotions you give them.

Interesting to note about lifts. Never thought about doing it because of being overtly fake. I have worn shoes or boots though...but what is the difference in a woman wearing a sexy wonder/ support bra??? ON the outside of her clothes those breasts look nice, then once that bra comes off you are staring at a sloppy mess!!!!!!!

 

[seasonedplayer]

Brilliant empirical evidence. Basically tells me as a five foot nine guy not to waste time online....

 

[origin138]

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts4048224.aspx

Although the topic is about height differences, many women couldn't seem to refrain from stating, "The taller the better". My particular favorites are the fatties openly stating they KNOW they're fat, insecure, and picky but refuse to change themselves and state they're "only attracted to tall guys". Bloated expectations.

 

[Poonani Maker]

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts4048224.aspx

Although the topic is about height differences, many women couldn't seem to refrain from stating, "The taller the better". My particular favorites are the fatties openly stating they KNOW they're fat, insecure, and picky but refuse to change themselves and state they're "only attracted to tall guys". Bloated expectations.

Hah, I've had no luck, Poonless this weekend, but I tried very hard. One was a fattie I could have banged last night, but I am so sick of fat girls. She didn't mind that I wouldn't go out with her, cause of course, we All know, yes, even fatties have bookoos of options and get d!ck any time they want. She was definitely a horny fata5s, but I'm sorry, I let her know that I'd rather go without this time i.e. stay home alone. I got a Lot of stuff accomplished last night though building cabinets on my workbench and installing a 60 lb microwave. I cut the fvck out of my finger though, could have severed it completely if I hadn't reflexed quick enough. It's still bleeding.

Anyway, on the social networking sites I've noticed a couple of chicks I used to message online c0ckblocking new chicks (very hot and young) I've friended, one unfriended me. I mean how low can you go? Just because I burned this one a few months ago, she stalks and fvcks with my new life?? after her? I no longer talk to her anymore.

So on to POF, today I messaged a few who viewed me, and of course, she'll be fat, short, or a mom, or old, and I just got done messaging a 25 yr old fat preschool teacher (many "teachers" seem to be on there) telling her she's "short" and about her favorite football player/team that he's no longer with the team, to change her profile as he has been traded. Just being real mean in my first message. I'm sure that she will respond, then I'll be nicer, then maybe on down the road, I'll end up fvcking her, who knows?

 

[Poonani Maker]

^^ Our interaction over the past hour...

Me
4/29/2012 4:01:29 PM
You are so short. Hey, I've got news for you, (her favorite player) is gone. Yep, (Player from my university), from my home state (my home state), will show you all how to getter done.

-My Name

Her
4/29/2012 4:08:38 PM
Yeah maybe... If he doesn't get hurt. Again.
And really!? You thought you'd open by telling me I'm short?


Me
4/29/2012 4:25:39 PM
You are borderline short *for me* You should pursue 5'5" to 5'9", I guess, guys, they are discriminated against. I hear it all the time. For kissing purposes, anything below 5'5" in a woman is hard for me over the long haul.

And (Player from my university), I never go to games, but I will now. Living here just keeps getting better and better for me, since I moved here in 2003.

Her
4/29/2012 4:28:39 PM
I guess I've never had anyone complain about the difficulty if kissing me. hasn't been a problem in the past. I'll still go to games, and maybe even like (Player from my University). Don't get me wrong... He's an amazing player, as long as he can play. If he's out the whole season that won't do us much good.


Me
4/29/2012 4:33:55 PM
Yeah, I guess you're right. If you could put his mind/knowledge on a young player's body, then we'd be set. They should pay him as a coach. I believe you that your mouth is fun to kiss, but stooping is not my idea of fun or relaxation while kissing.

Her
4/29/2012 5:15:42 PM
I guess we'd just have to kiss sitting down so that you wouldn't have to stoop. and FYI most short girls wear some sort of heel... Like at least two inches. Some of the time at least.

I think that's why I'm so pissed about (her favorite player) going to the (some team she don't like). I think (Player from my University) could have taught him a lot.


Me
4/29/2012 6:03:39 PM
What about laying down? I'm telling you it doesn't work fme, once again, over the long haul, unless you have a long upper body. Ok, I understand kissing standing on your high heels or tippy toes, but you will grow tired of that, once again, uncomfortable, and physical pain = no relationship. You must be able to melt with someone.

Yeah, well, if the NFL was like baseball (no salary cap), then they could have kept him because how much they can spend on players is limitless. As it is though, they had to make a choice, even if risking it on a player past his prime sort of.

Such is life..C'est la vie

Her
4/29/2012 6:07:00 PM
Interesting you chose to message me.