Is inquiring about possible BF AFC'ish?

[white sox bill]

Maybe someone could link me up with above answer. I searched and didn't find much in archives.

I'm a personal trainer in a gym(part time) and this attractive 32 yr old and I have been doing the PTing lately. She tells me about her weekends, but never mentions possible BF. She is giggly, gives me good EC and I'm sure appreciates the attention (I'm donating my services for now, under the guise of "ongoing weight training education" for gym members, theres no way she could afford me). I am going in slow with the seduction, seeminly desireless (aka Tao of Steve protocols) but I will pop out the question within next few weeks. Do I ask about BF?

 

[Hitman10000]

The only thing you should know when girls use the word boyfriend/husband they only do it because they do not see you as a potential candidate for them and sometimes girls will say it because they "assume" that you may see them as a potential romantic candidate.

Don't ask her, just date her.

 

[white sox bill]

The only thing you should know when girls use the word boyfriend/husband they only do it because they do not see you as a potential candidate for them and sometimes girls will say it because they "assume" that you may see them as a potential romantic candidate.

Don't ask her, just date her.

So your saying its 50/50? I like the fact she didn't mention anything about a BF, although she did put down some guys phone number as emergency contact on her membership contract but that could be anyone, besides that was back in March

 

[Victory Unlimited]

Yo WSB,

Go for the juggler and let the "borefriends" fall where they may.

Hitman is right on target. (and why WOULDN'T he be, he's an assasin for gosh sakes! lol)

And just to piggyback on what my friend with the high score of confirmed "kills" just wrote...lol...


...one more reason a woman might mention her boyfriend is to just put it out there. See, that way, when you hook up with her and have her bent over the weight rack, she can still FEEL innocent.

Because after all, she TOLD you she had a boyfriend, so the fact that you're repeatingly demonstrating the "pelvic thrust" exercise on her is now ALL YOUR FAULT.

 

[white sox bill]

Yo WSB,

Go for the juggler and let the "borefriends" fall where they may.

Hitman is right on target. (and why WOULDN'T he be, he's an assasin for gosh sakes! lol)

And just to piggyback on what my friend with the high score of confirmed "kills" just wrote...lol...


...one more reason a woman might mention her boyfriend is to just put it out there. See, that way, when you hook up with her and have her bent over the weight rack, she can still FEEL innocent.

Because after all, she TOLD you she had a boyfriend, so the fact that you're repeatingly demonstrating the "pelvic thrust" exercise on her is now ALL YOUR FAULT.

Victory she HASN'T mentioned anything about BF, just wrote some dudes name and number as emergency contact 6 months ago. If she has high interst in me, she will go regardless. I'll weave a web for a few more training sessions and as hitman says "go for the jugular"

 

[Victory Unlimited]

LOL


Thanks White Sox Bill, I see what you're getting at now. Yeah, I like the frame that you're coming from:

This woman is giving you pretty good "buying signals". So she has voluntarily put herself on your list of "things to do".

If she has NO boyfriend, cool. And even if she DOES have a boyfriend, it's STILL cool. Because YOU ARE THE MAN.

YOU don't worry about other guys.

Other guys worry about YOU! lol




March On.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

If you don't see a wedding band on her left ring finger, she's single. Always operate assuming she's single. It sends a more confident message to 'discover' she's involved with someone than to ask her permission to date her by directly asking her if she has a BF. Better to be confidently mistaken than hesitantly dissapointed.

 

[Latinoman]

"I'm donating my services for now, under the guise of "ongoing weight training education" for gym members, theres no way she could afford me".

So...tell me this...do you believe that attractive women that work as waitresses, hair dressers, or bartenders...and happen to be dealing with men...won't be acting the same way as the girl you are providing FREE services?

Think about it...a woman would be "nice" and "flirty" if that mean she is going to get FREEBIES from men. Even to get away from traffic violation tickets!

The only woman I would provide free service would be the woman I'm phucking. And that is IF she is providing free service to me too (such as cooking and cleaning my house, etc.). In another words, the service has to be "equal" in value (note: Sex is "paid" with sex...and affection is "paid" with affection).

 

[Vulpine]

... so the fact that you're repeatingly demonstrating the "pelvic thrust" exercise on her...

The next exercise is the "PELVIC THRUST"!!!
Oh no, not the "PELVIC THRUST" Sergeant!!!
Starting positions, MOVE!
*pull down pants*
In cadence... exercise! One, two, three...
ONE!
One, two, three...
TWO!
One, two, three...
THREE!
ONE, TWO, THREE...
HALT!
Recover.
*Pull up pants*

 

[Latinoman]

So...tell me this...do you believe that attractive women that work as waitresses, hair dressers, or bartenders...and happen to be dealing with men...won't be acting the same way as the girl you are providing FREE services?

Think about it...a woman would be "nice" and "flirty" if that mean she is going to get FREEBIES from men. Even to get away from traffic violation tickets!

The only woman I would provide free service would be the woman I'm phucking. And that is IF she is providing free service to me too (such as cooking and cleaning my house, etc.). In another words, the service has to be "equal" in value (note: Sex is "paid" with sex...and affection is "paid" with affection).

Okay...I see you are providing the "free service" under some pretense. That's cool.

hmmm...tricky situation you are involved. I mean...what if she says "I'm married" (note that no too many women would take their diamond ring to the gym) or "I'm engaged"? What would you do? Would you stop providing that free service?

Here is what I would probably do: I would teach her an exercise that is simple (something she can do at home) but at the same time requires TWO people. And say something like, "This exercise is going to work your ____ and ____ areas. It requires two people. It is a good exercise, because you can actually work it at home with your boyfriend." {see her reaction}

I know of some abdominal exercises that requires two people.

 

[white sox bill]

So...tell me this...do you believe that attractive women that work as waitresses, hair dressers, or bartenders...and happen to be dealing with men...won't be acting the same way as the girl you are providing FREE services?

Think about it...a woman would be "nice" and "flirty" if that mean she is going to get FREEBIES from men. Even to get away from traffic violation tickets!

The only woman I would provide free service would be the woman I'm phucking. And that is IF she is providing free service to me too (such as cooking and cleaning my house, etc.). In another words, the service has to be "equal" in value (note: Sex is "paid" with sex...and affection is "paid" with affection).

You see Latinoman, that is why I must advance my moves real soon to determine feasibility. If its a no go, I cease the training sessions.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Don't ask her, just date her.

:yes: These simple words are a part of the essence of a DJ.

 

[white sox bill]

I guess I won't ask then, if I do ask and she says yes, knowing me, that would probably be the end of it. But if I don't ask, maybe she does and is not happy with him. Bottom line: I have nothing to gain by asking, will do it Thursday.

 

[MightyMate]

Don`t ask. If You know she has somebody then just go for sex. I mean dont waste time, coz its her only purpose.

 

[white sox bill]

I turned up the tension a bit yesterday by massaging her neck and trap muscles, she loved it. I was a bit hesitant with me age 46 and her 32, but then again, I have almost only dated younger women. 5 yrs ago I brought home a 22 yr old while I was 41! LOL!

The only thing that bothers me is what is I ask her out and I get the 'ol "Maybe" or "ask me next week" or "I'll get back with you" which is ******** for "I can't say no directly, so I will tell you everything that means no" Then its Next!

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Your assignment now is to Spin More Plates. If you got a "maybe", it's a fillibuster sh!t test - meaning you aren't her first (or only) priority. Find something else to do and make your attention more valuable to her. Increase demand through scarcity. Don't cut her off entirely, rather become inconvenient to see her and see other options. If you dn't have any, make some now. We only chase what runs away from us.

Also, pull your head out of this "I was hesitant because I'm 46" crap. I know at least three 55 y.o. men who are dating or have bootycalls that are 35. If anything this should embolden you since single women in their 30's are generally looking for men to secure their own long term security. Do your best to look into her present conditions and plan accordingly. Was she married once? Does she have children? What do you figure her education level is? Is she carrying a lot of debt? Try to understand where she is with regards to this stage of her life. Women are far less of mystery if you simply compare their personal conditions to their general stage of life and what their self-expectations are. It's when you vacillate on adolescent questions like "does she like me?" or "does she have a boyfriend?" you only shoot yourself in the foot.

 

[Latinoman]

Women are far less of mystery if you simply compare their personal conditions to their general stage of life and what their self-expectations are.

And this is how exactly I see it too.

Very good advice.