Is game just about age and maturity?

[Thebestthereeveris]

When i was 15-20 I would get into crushes with girls and fall head over heels over them. I wouldnt care about anything else but the love of a certain girl and having a lovey dovey relationship. When I learned game I would approach like a badass but deep inside i wanted affection and eventually that side of me came out and we all know what happens when you do that, rejected. Now at 27 I have a gf and the thought of making her my entire world like lots of guys and i used to do just doesnt make sense to me. Its like it cant even be a reality. I have so much more I need to do and focus on that making her my entire life seems so foreign to me yet tons of guys my age do it still. Is this just a maturity thing that comes with age or have i just grown wiser? Guys my age still lose girls by making them their focus so idk what it is.

 

[Barrister]

To a certain degree - yes. But maturation is just one part of the process. Actually being red-pilled is another process.

There are plenty of guys 40+ who are still blue pill and don't understand how women process relationships with men. Many of them married. I definitely would say that the longer you have understood it the more adept you get at applying the knowledge to your dealings with women. But you have to understand it in the first place.

 

[shwami_salami]

I got fully redpilled last year, when I see on social media the cute chicks I always pinned for in hs...now blown up to 200+ lbs. this is only the beginning of the end. They are still in their early 20s, yet became Beluga whales...all in what the span of 5-7 yrs?With their little beta boyfriends, all who they wouldnt give a second thought to reject in their prime years in hs.

 

[Stanley]

Don't make anyone your 'entire life'. You only got one and it is your's, not her's...

This sounds pretty normal to me? With age you expect a degree of maturity and wisdom. If you've spent time with women and had relationships your views on things will change with experience. Same as you when I was younger I had 'crushes', most people do and many still have them to an extant in their adult life it is fairly normal. The guys that are trying to focus solely on their girl are likely trying to fill a void they have with a person, they need to fix that void by their own accord. The woman should be a compliment to your life that brings value and you should be the same to her. Anyone that makes someone 'their world' is destined for a downward spiral of pain and regret in the future.

You know where your focus wants to be

Don't allow others relationship dynamics influence yours, especially in your late 20s as you start seeing everyone get married off. As for the notion of that deep rooted affection I think that is just human nature and some have that quality more than others. Got hurt enough to where I don't really feel that way anymore, but I know under the right circumstances it can show through. A lot of guys love too much and get burned for it, so they often learn to tone it back and eventually adjust to that state of being and normalize it. In other words change the mental schema.... and now we've more or less delved into the Red Pill.

I think with age 'game' can be acquired and perfected, but I do not think it comes on its own in the slightest. There are plenty of guys far older than I (most) who have no clue about game.You have to either seek it out or recognize it on your own. I fit more of the 'natural' category and was completely unaware of it up until the past few years. A lot of guys never realize their innate potential because they don't recognize the things before them and live in ignorance. You are aware and wiser in my eyes, and as result you get this dissonance and self doubt since you are seeing others around you doing things which oppose your own mental framework.

 

[Modern Man Advice]

The latter more than the former but generally speaking yes.

You can be >35 and still be an idiot and socially inept. And you can be <35 and have enough life experiences under your belt to give you some solid maturity.

What it comes down to, maturity comes from experience (both negative and positive). But it is true that as a rule of thumb, you need to have lived enough on Earth to gain enough experience to give you the proper perspective. This includes "gaming", which that word makes me cringe.

 

[BadBoy89]

Is this just a maturity thing that comes with age or have i just grown wiser? Guys my age still lose girls by making them their focus so idk what it is.

Guys don’t lose girls by making them their focus. The girl finds another guy who fills her needs better.

You are still little young not to care, usually guys don’t begin to care quite a bit later. I would guess it’s because you have had a lot of experience in your teens and early 20s so it’s no big deal to you. A lot of men haven’t so it’s a big deal to them. Young, sexy girls that is. No one cares about older or fat girls.

When I was in my early 20s, I flew to London to hug a girl, Now I won‘t even cross the street to sleep with a hot girl. It’s all relative.

 

[RomanWarrick]

Don't make anyone your 'entire life'. You only got one and it is your's, not her's...

This sounds pretty normal to me? With age you expect a degree of maturity and wisdom. If you've spent time with women and had relationships your views on things will change with experience. Same as you when I was younger I had 'crushes', most people do and many still have them to an extant in their adult life it is fairly normal. The guys that are trying to focus solely on their girl are likely trying to fill a void they have with a person, they need to fix that void by their own accord. The woman should be a compliment to your life that brings value and you should be the same to her. Anyone that makes someone 'their world' is destined for a downward spiral of pain and regret in the future.

You know where your focus wants to be

Don't allow others relationship dynamics influence yours, especially in your late 20s as you start seeing everyone get married off. As for the notion of that deep rooted affection I think that is just human nature and some have that quality more than others. Got hurt enough to where I don't really feel that way anymore, but I know under the right circumstances it can show through. A lot of guys love too much and get burned for it, so they often learn to tone it back and eventually adjust to that state of being and normalize it. In other words change the mental schema.... and now we've more or less delved into the Red Pill.

I think with age 'game' can be acquired and perfected, but I do not think it comes on its own in the slightest. There are plenty of guys far older than I (most) who have no clue about game.You have to either seek it out or recognize it on your own. I fit more of the 'natural' category and was completely unaware of it up until the past few years. A lot of guys never realize their innate potential because they don't recognize the things before them and live in ignorance. You are aware and wiser in my eyes, and as result you get this dissonance and self doubt since you are seeing others around you doing things which oppose your own mental framework.

Thanks for wise words.

 

[Gamisch]

Game is about how many sloots you ran through. Perhaps combined with ; how often did you got your heart broken. We dont talk enough about the male wall. Most guys after 30 also feel the pressure to start a family and are willing to accept more shyte behaviour than when they were dating carefree. Lots of men get "gun shy" when they've been played a couple of times. Its tough not to become blackpilled when you get older.

One piece of advice. Be sceptical without showing it. The art is to understand female nature , but to yet appreciate them for what they are. Imo your mindset isn't that bad. Just make sure you give her the impressions you highly appreciate her.

And always talk to other women.