I like the way you assess night game.
If you work a normal 8 am – 5 pm job on Mondays-Fridays, that does limit how you can do night game. Every John Paycheck who is a single man goes out on Friday-Saturday night. Since most men are betas with bad game, the approaches women field on Friday-Saturday night are often underwhelming approaches that put them in a bad mood. They’ll often get more defensive on these nights. While Friday-Saturdays often have good quantities, you’ll be dealing with more defensive women, and more non-serious about meeting men attention seekers. The women not serious about meeting men on Friday-Saturday are often the “girls night out” women. If a woman is in a group of 4 or more at a night venue, she’s not serious about meeting men. Groups of 3 are the maximum for finding women serious about meeting men any night of the week.
If Friday-Saturday night are not good options, you could go out Sunday-Thursday night. Women in groups of 3 or less at 11 PM on a Tuesday night are serious about meeting men even though there are fewer women like that.
I think the best option for a single man with an 8-5 pm Mon-Fri white collar job is weekday happy hours. You can cold approach women in bars between 5-8 pm on weekdays (including Fridays) and still get sufficient sleep.
If you want to get more than a 5 year younger age difference, you’ll have to approach in person in a lot of situations. Women have a huge advantage on mainstream swipe apps until their 40s. They filter out a lot of older men on apps unless they have an older man fetish.
On swipe apps, you’re always dipping below your looks level because women have hundreds of options at any time. A woman who is a 6 often gets a man 8.5+ on the apps. An 8.5 man will bang a 6 woman for some short period of time, never commit to her, then move on. However, sex with an 8.5 man skews a 6 woman's perspective on her own value.
Women don’t care about you, they care about themselves.
It’s normal to feel dismayed by the constant rejection.
Most people are in a relationship at any given time, despite lower rates of marriage in the Millennial generation (1982-1996 births). So if you’re doing uncalibrated approaches of anyone without a wedding ring on, you’ll run into a lot of women with committed boyfriends. If you look for mild IOIs (positive body language), you’re more likely to get women who are single or attached women looking to monkey branch who won’t mention a boyfriend.
I wouldn’t call Los Angeles a bad city for day game.
The worst thing about looking for romantic interactions in Los Angeles are the male-female ratios. Put simply, Los Angeles is a sausage fest under age 40-50.
In terms of venues, Los Angeles has some advantages.
In Santa Monica, you have Third Street Promenade, which is a pedestrian friendly area that is one of the best places for “London Daygame Model” street gaming in the entire United States. It is not a coincidence that a lot of YouTube pickup videos for day game are filmed there. Even late night TV shows like “Jimmy Kimmel Live” often film segments there as they are cold approaching people to ask questions.
With good weather for large portions of the year there, you have beach approaching as an option. Not many cities have that as an option. You can also do hiking approaches near the city at Runyon, in the Santa Monica Mountains, etc.
White women in Westside neighborhoods in Los Angeles are often pretentious and demanding.
If you’re into Hispanic women, trying the more heavily Hispanic areas in Los Angeles could get you away from some bad attitudes. I’d recommend Spanish fluency for maxing out results in approaching Hispanic women. Even a white male with Spanish fluency is working at a disadvantage with Hispanic women, but those approaches would have reasonable odds.
I agree that non-bar approaching as a whole is a low return for a lot of work. There are even variations within non-bar approaching. Approaching in a fitness class might be better than approaching on the street. Those both fall under day game. While day game has a low return from a lot of work, I would say that swipe apps require even more work than daygame for even less impressive results.
Yes, most men don’t have a good social circle. There are even variations within social circle. I think participation in a co-ed sports league counts as social circle. However, that’s a weak social circle option as a lot of people in the co-ed sports league aren’t necessarily friends. Lots of men have participated in co-ed sports leagues trying to get vagina. That’s why kickball was so big from 2005-2015 in a lot of major U.S. metro areas. No one is passionate about kickball, it was just an excuse to try to get laid and form romantic relationships. Some people formed relationships from these but a lot didn’t get much out of their participation.
Volleyball and soccer are common co-ed sports league options.
In co-ed sports leagues, the approaches are warmer than grocery store, mall, or random outdoor approaches since you’re both in the league. However, you as a man are still sparking up interactions by breaking the ice to go talk to someone.
I’d only recommend co-ed sports leagues if you’re passion about the sport, you’re attracted to athletic women, and the sport itself tends to attract athletic women. Volleyball and soccer are probably the best options there. Tennis can work at a private club and you’re looking for 35-50 year old women.
They can be. You’d have to look for mild IOIs to try to discount that.
Even fitness classes are hard to convert into dates, as well as co-ed sports leagues.
Agree
