Is Daygame BS?

[Sam_J]

I've been doing daygame for a little while now. I've read all of the theory (krauser, torero, Tusk, etc.) and for the most part have implemented it. There may be some blind spots that I am unaware of, but I don't think there's too much a daygame teacher can teach me to tangibly improve upon my approaches. Aside from going on a cycle of roids and pimping my Instagram, I don't think there's much that can improve my odds. But, I'm open to being proven wrong about this.

I've done about 200-300 approaches now and have only gotten about 2 dates from daygame. I could have maybe gotten more if I didn't mess things up on text. This is pretty disheartening for me right now, because I felt this was my best option to meet girls that are least on my looks level (7.5-8). OLD will match me with girls below my looks level and nightgame isn't an option for me.

The constant rejection is just really starting to weigh me down. I am just in disbelief in the amount of girls out there that are in some type of relationship. It also boggles my mind how some women can give two ****s about the fact that I'm putting my balls on the line to approach them.

Not sure if I'll get any help from this forum tbh. Seems like a lot of keyboard jockeys on here but I'm curious to see if there are any actual action takers out there who could give someone like me advice.

I'm also in LA, a competitive city and probably one of the worst major cities for daygame. Just curious what your thoughts are.

You have to approach a ton. Check out Mike mehlman on YouTube. He does 350-400 approaches PER DAY sometimes and has done over 40,000 approaches and has a ton of results. He treats it like going to the gym and putting in the reps. Also straight up telling the girls they're attractive right away. It might not be worth it for you but for me it is because its helping me get more and more confident and direct and lose my filter when talking to people also which used to be a huge issue for me due to past trauma

 

[PRW63]

You have to approach a ton. Check out Mike mehlman on YouTube. He does 350-400 approaches PER DAY sometimes and has done over 40,000 approaches

He is BSing everyone. He would have to approach a woman every 123.4 seconds for 24hrs straight. Total BS.

Even if it was true,...so a guy approaches 40,000 women for a date,...350-400 per day,...which would take 100 days if he doesn't sleep,...and still can't maintain a GF or actually make any kind of relationship happen. But he can help you with a coaching session for $200 per hr. (of course that puts him 29.17 women behind schedule to make the 350-400 per day).

 

[Sam_J]

He is BSing everyone. He would have to approach a woman every 123.4 seconds for 24hrs straight. Total BS.

Even if it was true,...so a guy approaches 40,000 women for a date,...350-400 per day,...which would take 100 days if he doesn't sleep,...and still can't maintain a GF or actually make any kind of relationship happen. But he can help you with a coaching session for $200 per hr. (of course that puts him 29.17 women behind schedule to make the 350-400 per day).

Every 2 minutes would be 30 an hour and 30*24 is 720 so your math is wrong. He isn't BSing everyone, watch the videos of him approaching, he literally runs/skateboards around approaching every hot girl he sees and goes straight to the point and has conversations that are 1 minute or less, then moves on to the next one, and does it 8-10 hours a day sometimes. But he lives in Tokyo, literally the biggest city in the world, so obviously most guys can't do that high volume (I sure can't even come close to that). He also has said he doesn't want a relationship and just does tons of approaches and hooks up with a bunch of random girls, while also intentionally trying to get rejected a lot.

 

[bat soup]

This is true but you can get higher success rate if you approach the chics that are already into you.


Yes again its about reading her signals. Eyes are powerful tools man.
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I agree 100% with that. I've approached women that were looking at me on the metro on a bus and had a good success rate. Eye contact can tell you a lot if you know how to read it.

 

[firstbornunicorn]

Do you come off as genuine/authentic?

I think game is a whole lot of BS. Just try to connect with another human. The last time I tried a day time cold open it ended in a kiss close the next day: https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/just-met-a-cute-polish-girl-reading-a-book-by-a-lake.269727/

 

[Georgepithyou]

To the guys knocking cold approach/daygame what is your alternative? Because OLD/Nightgame doesn't magically yield better results. Most guys don't have a good social circle so that option is also out.

 

[Velasco]

Because OLD/Nightgame doesn't magically yield better results.

not sure about online dating, but nightgame does.

 

[Velasco]

it's not BS in that if you do what bat soup is saying

Maybe if you filter better and only approach certain types of girls or choose a better location the rates would be higher.

and you go for the girls most likely to be down to fvck (new to the city/doesn't have many friends/tourist).

Is day game a myth?

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These same girls will be receptive to nightgame approaches. Only for nightgame, there is a larger pool, because local girls are fare game as well due to night+ alcohol.

 

[momentomori]

You have to approach a ton. Check out Mike mehlman on YouTube. He does 350-400 approaches PER DAY sometimes and has done over 40,000 approaches and has a ton of results. He treats it like going to the gym and putting in the reps. Also straight up telling the girls they're attractive right away. It might not be worth it for you but for me it is because its helping me get more and more confident and direct and lose my filter when talking to people also which used to be a huge issue for me due to past trauma

I've heard of this guy. Another youtuber was recommending him. It seems that his core message is to just get rejected as quickly as possible so that you can move on to the next target. I adopted this mentality with a few approaches today, and at least I didn't feel as bad once they rejected me. It was like "okay, I was expecting that. Now lets just quickly move onto the next set."

Do you come off as genuine/authentic?

I think game is a whole lot of BS. Just try to connect with another human.

I think I agree. The need for "stacking" and other 'gamey' techniques just cringey and inauthentic AF.

Only for nightgame, there is a larger pool, because local girls are fare game as well due to night+ alcohol.

I would be open to nightgame, but I just feel like crap the next day, even if I don't drink alcohol. Trying to get some sleep after listening to loud blaring music and keeping my adrenaline up all night is difficult and I wake up next day just wrecked. I don't think its healthy in the long-term. If I changed my circadian rhythm so that I always go to sleep at 2am then maybe I could pull it off, but that's difficult when I have a normal 8-5 job.

 

[Velasco]

I would be open to nightgame, but I just feel like crap the next day, even if I don't drink alcohol. Trying to get some sleep after listening to loud blaring music and keeping my adrenaline up all night is difficult and I wake up next day just wrecked. I don't think its healthy in the long-term. If I changed my circadian rhythm so that I always go to sleep at 2am then maybe I could pull it off, but that's difficult when I have a normal 8-5 job.

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but yea I hear this argument all the time. and my response is always the same. Exodus 20:8-11

 

[momentomori]

but yea I hear this argument all the time. and my response is always the same. Exodus 20:8-11

Nightgame didn't exist during biblical times. Nightgame is a very recent phenomena that exists because of the relatively recent invention of modern lighting. Before electricity everyone would knock the f*ck out at sunset, which is the way things have been since the dawn of humanity.

 

[PRW63]

Every 2 minutes would be 30 an hour and 30*24 is 720 so your math is wrong.

So every 4 minutes, 15 an hour. 15*24 is 360.
It is still BS. He is a fraud and a scammer.

 

[Sam_J]

So every 4 minutes, 15 an hour. 15*24 is 360.
It is still BS. He is a fraud and a scammer.

No he's not watch his videos. He also lets you talk to him directly FOR FREE in his group chat on WhatsApp unlike those other idiot coaches who barely approach at all themselves and charge $500 an hour to having a fvcking conversation.

 

[PRW63]

No he's not watch his videos. He also lets you talk to him directly FOR FREE in his group chat on WhatsApp unlike those other idiot coaches who barely approach at all themselves and charge $500 an hour to having a fvcking conversation.

I went to his web sight. It ain't free. It's $200 per hr. The WhatsApp is stupid and is just bait to pull you in further. People would do better than WhatsApp with him by just coming here and asking us.

 

[Sam_J]

I went to his web sight. It ain't free. It's $200 per hr. The WhatsApp is stupid and is just bait to pull you in further. People would do better than WhatsApp with him by just coming here and asking us.

It's 200 an hour to Skype with him 1 on 1. But in his WhatsApp he actually answers questions for free. It's better than some. There's one "coach" who charges like $550 to talk to him and like thousands of dollars for him to help guys with their tinder profiles lmao. And he has way less experience than mehlman

 

[Velasco]

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[ubercat]

I think even in the old days day game was more about becoming rejection proof.

 

[Vantagepoint34]

I've been doing daygame for a little while now. I've read all of the theory (krauser, torero, Tusk, etc.) and for the most part have implemented it. There may be some blind spots that I am unaware of, but I don't think there's too much a daygame teacher can teach me to tangibly improve upon my approaches. Aside from going on a cycle of roids and pimping my Instagram, I don't think there's much that can improve my odds. But, I'm open to being proven wrong about this.

I've done about 200-300 approaches now and have only gotten about 2 dates from daygame. I could have maybe gotten more if I didn't mess things up on text. This is pretty disheartening for me right now, because I felt this was my best option to meet girls that are least on my looks level (7.5-8). OLD will match me with girls below my looks level and nightgame isn't an option for me.

The constant rejection is just really starting to weigh me down. I am just in disbelief in the amount of girls out there that are in some type of relationship. It also boggles my mind how some women can give two ****s about the fact that I'm putting my balls on the line to approach them.

Not sure if I'll get any help from this forum tbh. Seems like a lot of keyboard jockeys on here but I'm curious to see if there are any actual action takers out there who could give someone like me advice.

I'm also in LA, a competitive city and probably one of the worst major cities for daygame. Just curious what your thoughts are.

Trains have opened up in my town on June 1st so chatting up cute nurses has begun. Scored an hb7 this morning. So day game and mall game is ready and good to go imo

 

[f283000]

It’s 2021 and the sexual market place is way different than years ago when approaching was popular and most women didn’t know whats going on. They all know about PUAS now and their shields are up the minute you say hi.

right now because of social media even a 4 has a hundred simps on her inbox giving her validation. So whatever acceptable woman you approach you can bet there’s simps in her life giving her validation so you got competition.

women now a days will give you the number just so you can go away they have become privy to approaching.

the biggest dating app in the world right now is IG. It’s what women use and it’s what they respond to which is clout/being attracted to a guy that presents an attractive proposition for dating based on his pictures.

I know I may sound like a hater for cold approaching but I just feel in this day and age of 2021 men should already be past going around walking embarrassing themselves getting rejected by hundreds of women just to get a phone #

are men still this thirsty in 2021? Could all that time you will be spending walking around be better spent going to the gym, taking salsa classes, boxing, public speaking and making yourself a really attractive proposition for women?

And if I can add that approaching doesn’t really improve your social skills that much besides just getting over the fear of talking to women. People say it’s about improving social skills but if you look at most guys that do this most are ackward af.

 

[Georgepithyou]

are men still this thirsty in 2021? Could all that time you will be spending walking around be better spent going to the gym, taking salsa classes, boxing, public speaking and making yourself a really attractive proposition for women?

Women aren't going to approach you even if you do all that, no amount of self improvement will get that.

Day game is difficult, but you get the best girls. (From my experiences). Don't expect to succeed at day game with putting the work into it, not gonna work

Exactly, it is by far the hardest way to meet women but the most rewarding