Is Courtney Ryan a Fish Trying to Teach Men How to Catch Fish?

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Yeah, I'd be tempted to give her an 8. I'm a breast man, so that probably pushes it over the top. But she has a very demure, soft spoken way about her that just screams femininity. That's probably want impresses me about her the most.
She's appealing.

Seeing him talk, with his voice and body language, he comes off like a liberal soy boy IMO. I don't think guys are the best judge of what men females find attractive, necessarily.
It is weird to see a woman who is borderline cute/hot with a liberal soy boy instead of a muscular 6'0"+ guy. The expectation is that she would be with a guy who looked like a pro baseball player during the 1990s/early 2000s peak steroid years.
 

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Funny thing about that is this guy she is with was in the friendzone for many many years. While she was riding other ****, very likely and undeniably still doing it, he is just the safe guy for her. She is even fake smiling on the thumbnail, that’s what women are masters in, simply because Deception is womens art
That's false info. They met on Tinder, she specified this in several videos.

As to my impression of her....much of the stuff she says that I agree with is basically common sense (which to hapless guys may appear as some sort of great wisdom).
She has invited several times some of her girlfriends which for many judging by the comments are eye candy but to me appear to be kind of trashy (tattoo heavy, tons of makeup) and not that bright.
Having met her fiancee on Tinder, she appears to think that online dating is the modern way to meet your significant other...has plenty of videos on OLD which IMO is basically a waste of time.

Has discussed in several videos how to approach girls, like for instance in a gym and this is when the 'don't take dating advice from women' mantra sounds true. For one, she doesn't mention that when a girl likes a guy, she'll put herself in his orbit. She'll sub-communicate through eyes, smiles that she wants to be approached. Secondly she keeps repeating a story where she was on the treadmill and a guy said to her something along the lines of 'I can't leave without knowing your name bla bla' and how cute that approach was. She admits he wasn't her type but still gave him her number. That's just bad advice, encouraging guys to waste their time cold approaching like this, particularly in a gym.
 

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I can't figure out who is the target market for a woman being a men's issue specialist/leader.
She's pretty solid. Many of the male "coaches" are just as full of crap as anyone else. She does not use the Red Pill label or claim to be Red Pill,...although she agrees with a lot of it. She is compareable to Corey Wayne, Alexander Grace, Hafeez, Harry Willimington. She did a "Reaction Video" to one of Rich Cooper's vids and she agreed with Rich. She often cringes at harsh, blunt, "deliveries" of data, but agrees with the data and says that different delivery methods work on different people and that the content of the data is the important part.
 

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She did a "Reaction Video" to one of Rich Cooper's vids and she agreed with Rich. She often cringes at harsh, blunt, "deliveries" of data, but agrees with the data
Lol, I've seen her do a few review/reaction videos of other PUA gurus or coaches. The guy will say something bluntly sexual, and her eyes will get real big, and she'll looked shocked and look at the camera as if to say "omigosh". I'm sure it's half put on, but I appreciate the effort to keep it classy and ladylike. Plus it's kind of funny.
 

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She is definitely high 7 or low 8.
I think the way she carries herself is what is most appealing about her. She just acts very feminine IMO.
 

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Lol, I've seen her do a few review/reaction videos of other PUA gurus or coaches. The guy will say something bluntly sexual, and her eyes will get real big, and she'll looked shocked and look at the camera as if to say "omigosh". I'm sure it's half put on, but I appreciate the effort to keep it classy and ladylike. Plus it's kind of funny.
Yea, I enjoy it too and get a laugh out of it. I've seen her interviewed in other people's podcast/shows in long form, she has all her points and positions clearly thought out,...like a guy would. I like her.
 

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Ted has money and good hair. Pretty sure he has the height as well.
He still gives off a soy-ish vibe, even with the height, hair, money combo.

I enjoy it too and get a laugh out of it. I've seen her interviewed in other people's podcast/shows in long form, she has all her points and positions clearly thought out,...like a guy would. I like her.
She may be more aware than many women but at the end of the day, she can't relate to the male experience. She's never dated a woman. She's never had the higher levels of testosterone that men have. She's never had the male pressures men have had. Being a woman is life is on easy mode.
 

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She may be more aware than many women but at the end of the day, she can't relate to the male experience. She's never dated a woman. She's never had the higher levels of testosterone that men have. She's never had the male pressures men have had. Being a woman is life is on easy mode.
That's fine I wouldn't expect her to. Myself, I don't have boobs, a monthly cycle, or have some mini-human come ripping screaming and clawing its way out of my crotch,...so we're even. :cool:
 

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She may be more aware than many women but at the end of the day, she can't relate to the male experience.
That's true, but I don't think that's her brand. She is giving a female perspective, and I've always maintained that can be useful, especially if it is coming from a woman who is self aware.
 

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That's true, but I don't think that's her brand. She is giving a female perspective, and I've always maintained that can be useful, especially if it is coming from a woman who is self aware.
These days, I actually study more material from female coaches/gurus (or articles/posts written by women) than male ones.

I’m kind of burned out from watching YT videos from Chad/Tyrone gurus pretending to understand what many of their followers go through lol.
 
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So just to take care of this right out the gate, the whole "fish catching" analogy will never not be stupid. The input of women is important and most men don't know ****.

That being said, I do think that Courtney is a bit of an idiot.

First of all, she's a gold-digger under the guise of being "classy." I'm sure if you came to her with this, she'd have a really clever way of justifying it, but it's kinda like trying to convince someone that poop isn't poop. Everyone knows what's actually going on.

Second, the way she oversimplifies the idea of "creepiness" makes her genuinely useless in some cases. She can give as many tips for men to not be seen as creepy all she wants. At the end of the day, if a woman finds you creepy, she would have found you creepy no matter what you did.

Thirdly, and most naggingly to me, she's one of those.. people, I guess.. who believe that if the way you word things is "rude" or "offensive" then people have the right to ignore you. This isn't a dating-specific thing, but if you find what someone is saying "rude," that means you should shut the **** up and listen, because what they're saying is probably true and you just don't like that they are superior to you. People like Courtney need an ass-kicking. If someone better than you speaks, just listen. ‍♂
 

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I didn't know who this girl was until I saw the video, but anyway:

Courtney:

4 Tips On How To Approach Women (Without Being Creepy!)

(1) Make it make sense
(2) Keep it Clean
(3) Be Confident
(4) Read the Room

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4 Tips On How To Approach Women (Without Being Creepy!)

(1) Be at least 6'1
(2) Have a full set of hair
(3) Don't be a Virgin
(4) Be in Shape
 

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Donovan Sharpe made a couple of videos on her... one around her views (let's not judge, it's a preference bla bla) on women with high body-count and one around the same subject where she invited a bunch of hoes to ask their views on it. Based on this and the fact she got her beta looking, rich fiancee on Tinder I tend to think she is a reformed hoe.
 

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I think Court is fairly honest and “drinks her own koolaid” because her views are relatively moderate, say purple pill. And she tries to give relatively common sense advice to guys.

On the other hand, these female influencers that parrot textbook red pill stuff make my skin crawl. You can tell many of them are closet feminists that are pretending to side with men to get views.
 
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one around the same subject where she invited a bunch of hoes to ask their views on it.
I think those women are friends/acquaintances of hers. They are fairly representative of late Millennial/early Gen Z women (think 1991-1998 births).

Based on this and the fact she got her beta looking, rich fiancee on Tinder I tend to think she is a reformed hoe.
That guy is very dweebish looking.

At least 1 of the following 3 reasons applies to their relationship and would help explain why they are together.
  • He is rich
  • He has a big penis
  • She is permitted to have sex with other men
I think it is only the first one that is applicable, because it is known he is rich. Classic beta bucks guy.

I think Court is fairly honest and “drinks her own koolaid” because her views are relatively moderate, say purple pill.
There is a case to be made for that.

These female influencers that parrot textbook red pill stuff make my skin crawl. You can tell many of them are closet feminists that are pretending to side with men to get views.
The term feminist to me is a tricky label. If you read mid-20th Century feminist thought from the 1955-1963 era (Betty Freidan was the most notable of this era), their ideas then are quite mild compared to later versions of feminism. Freidan was considered a radical in her era.

Mostly every woman born in the 1980s/1990s is a more radical feminist than Betty Friedan was. Most 1980s/1990s born women do not identify themselves with the feminist label now, but would be considered more radical now based on things 1980s-1990s born women take for granted.

Almost anyone can be called a closet feminist now.

Can you give an example of female influencer who you think is a closet feminist?

My best example of a closet feminist is Fox News' Ainsley Earhardt, who claims to be a classic Southern gal. She was raised in South Carolina and is supposed to be a devout Christian. She's twice divorced and a single mom. Her first marriage, which didn't happen until she was nearly 30, failed at age 33 without children. In her mid-30s, she gets together with a substantially younger man (7 years younger) who was a college football QB. They have a child together and divorced. It was reported during the divorce cycle that Earhardt is careerist and obsessed with work.

Everything in that last paragraph seems feminist to me rather than devout Christian gal.
 

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I think those women are friends/acquaintances of hers. They are fairly representative of late Millennial/early Gen Z women (think 1991-1998 births).



That guy is very dweebish looking.

At least 1 of the following 3 reasons applies to their relationship and would help explain why they are together.
  • He is rich
  • He has a big penis
  • She is permitted to have sex with other men
I think it is only the first one that is applicable, because it is known he is rich. Classic beta bucks guy.



There is a case to be made for that.



The term feminist to me is a tricky label. If you read mid-20th Century feminist thought from the 1955-1963 era (Betty Freidan was the most notable of this era), their ideas then are quite mild compared to later versions of feminism. Freidan was considered a radical in her era.

Mostly every woman born in the 1980s/1990s is a more radical feminist than Betty Friedan was. Most 1980s/1990s born women do not identify themselves with the feminist label now, but would be considered more radical now based on things 1980s-1990s born women take for granted.

Almost anyone can be called a closet feminist now.

Can you give an example of female influencer who you think is a closet feminist?

My best example of a closet feminist is Fox News' Ainsley Earhardt, who claims to be a classic Southern gal. She was raised in South Carolina and is supposed to be a devout Christian. She's twice divorced and a single mom. Her first marriage, which didn't happen until she was nearly 30, failed at age 33 without children. In her mid-30s, she gets together with a substantially younger man (7 years younger) who was a college football QB. They have a child together and divorced. It was reported during the divorce cycle that Earhardt is careerist and obsessed with work.

Everything in that last paragraph seems feminist to me rather than devout Christian gal.
It always makes me laugh when you hear the "this chick is only with this guy guy because of X".

In truth things are much more complicated than this usually. Too many guys that have been burned and are cynical of anything that doesn't appear to be the "perfect" relationship where the SMVs align flawlessly.

Also find it funny how many guys say game helps you "date up" but then when it happens or it doesn't line up exactly the way someone thinks it should out roll the reasons and excuses.
 

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In truth things are much more complicated than this usually. Too many guys that have been burned and are cynical of anything that doesn't appear to be the "perfect" relationship where the SMVs align flawlessly

Also find it funny how many guys say game helps you "date up" but then when it happens or it doesn't line up exactly the way someone thinks it should out roll the reasons and excuses.
I think this perception happens because posters on here realize that most men don't have quality game.
 

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I think those women are friends/acquaintances of hers. They are fairly representative of late Millennial/early Gen Z women (think 1991-1998 births).



That guy is very dweebish looking.

At least 1 of the following 3 reasons applies to their relationship and would help explain why they are together.
  • He is rich
  • He has a big penis
  • She is permitted to have sex with other men
I think it is only the first one that is applicable, because it is known he is rich. Classic beta bucks guy.



There is a case to be made for that.



The term feminist to me is a tricky label. If you read mid-20th Century feminist thought from the 1955-1963 era (Betty Freidan was the most notable of this era), their ideas then are quite mild compared to later versions of feminism. Freidan was considered a radical in her era.

Mostly every woman born in the 1980s/1990s is a more radical feminist than Betty Friedan was. Most 1980s/1990s born women do not identify themselves with the feminist label now, but would be considered more radical now based on things 1980s-1990s born women take for granted.

Almost anyone can be called a closet feminist now.

Can you give an example of female influencer who you think is a closet feminist?

My best example of a closet feminist is Fox News' Ainsley Earhardt, who claims to be a classic Southern gal. She was raised in South Carolina and is supposed to be a devout Christian. She's twice divorced and a single mom. Her first marriage, which didn't happen until she was nearly 30, failed at age 33 without children. In her mid-30s, she gets together with a substantially younger man (7 years younger) who was a college football QB. They have a child together and divorced. It was reported during the divorce cycle that Earhardt is careerist and obsessed with work.

Everything in that last paragraph seems feminist to me rather than devout Christian gal.
I’m skeptical about Just Pear_ly Th ings. Just a gut feeling. It seems like she just reads RP topics directly off a computer screen to get a discussion going with her crew; but she delivers it in such a way that seems like she is either skeptical of RP stuff at worst or uninterested in it at best.
 
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