Is a girl getting drinks with you automatic?

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I went on a date Monday that went all day and had a really good time, but didn't get so much as a kiss close because I didn't escalate. She was a quality girl (foreign), very funny and charming, but I balked at the shlt-tests I faced early in the date. Inexcusable, I know. But now I have a question for next time with the next girl (won't be another date with this one because she's gone home.)

My question is if you end up getting drinks alone with the girl, is that an indicator of high interest no matter how she's acting through the day? In other words, if the girl sarcastically states "this is not a date, we're just hanging out", or positions her purse in between you on a ride (indicators of disinterest) but then suggests you go out "for drinks" after the theme park (and pays for her own) - well these two things seem incongruent no?

She ended up having 3 drinks, which was enough such that her inhibitions would have been much lower. Some of my friends think 3 is a magic number. Would any girl (besides a gold digger, which this chick wasn't) put herself in that situation who wasn't thinking about having sex?
 

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You already put her on a pedestal. How do you even define what is a high quality woman when you haven't even met her for a first date?

Escalate or masturbate, its thats simple.
 
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You already put her on a pedestal. How do you even define what is a high quality woman when you haven't even met her for a first date?

Escalate or masturbate, its thats simple.
We met at a hostel and had a lengthy conversation in the lounge before I number closed and met up with her a few days later. So in essence this was the 2nd meeting.

You're right though, in the end I did pedastalize her anyway.

But what are people's thoughts on a girl suggesting drinks? Is it an automatic green light or not as a general rule?
 

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But what are people's thoughts on a girl suggesting drinks?
I would think it is a green light. You need to make your dates shorter and escalate. The only way to truly know is seal the deal with sex.

Recent date I had I used kino and the mid date kiss. Kissed her for the rest of the date and she was all over me. I didn't get a second date. She was trying to make me jump through hoops. I said no ty. I really thought that I had it in the bag.
 
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But what are people's opinions about a girl suggesting drinks? Is it usually an automatic green light or not?
I would think it is a green light. You need to make your dates shorter and escalate. The only way to truly know is seal the deal with sex.

Recent date I had I used kino and the mid date kiss. Kissed her for the rest of the date and she was all over me. I didn't get a second date. She was trying to make me jump through hoops. I said no ty. I really thought that I had it in the bag.
This is the first date I have failed to at least try to escalate since my red pill awakening in 2012. I think I caught a one day case of Oneitis because of her foreign/feminine mannerisms and accent. So my knees buckled.

Fell off the wagon. Won't happen again.
 

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If you initiate a drink date and she has at least 3 or more, then it's game on. If she feels comfortable enough to get a little tipsy and maybe loose while out with you then she sees you as a potential lover, fb, ons, or just a friend. Escalate to find out.
If she initiates the date through her suggestion, then it's questionable, aka, drinks and clubbing using you as her free ticket, as you may be just a friend in her mind. Again, escalate to know what's up.…
 
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I'm not sure this is a relevant question...most women have no issues going to grab a drink if they are going on a date with a guy, but that doesn't necessarily mean they want sex. I think it might be more of an indicator they have some physical attraction but what happens on the date is far more important. If you don't do well in person, that initial attraction won't be worth much.

I'd say more of an indicator might be if they start buying you drinks...then that shows they are investing something into you and are probably at least a little bit into you.
 

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Of course not. Asking the same question several times won't change the answer.

It is no different than mini-golf, supper or ice cream. meaningless. It is a chance to get to know each other.....that's it. Nothing more, nothing less.


It doesn't matter what kind of date ......the answer to her interest lies in YOUR escalation.

DID YOU ESCALATE ON THE SECOND DATE?

I did this on the first date we had a couple of drinks, lots of touching, I even touched her tighs near her pu***y ( I was loving it). Hugs, she smiles throughout the night, holding hands, at the end of the date we hug but no kiss, no sex, no text about the evening ...... nothing.. I'm confused?
 

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I did this on the first date we had a couple of drinks, lots of touching, I even touched her tighs near her pu***y ( I was loving it). Hugs, she smiles throughout the night, holding hands, at the end of the date we hug but no kiss, no sex, no text about the evening ...... nothing.. I'm confused?
Could've been too much kino and touching. Came off as needy/pushy maybe. Could've been 1000 different things that didn't add up to give her the perfect attraction. Or.......you didn't push her boundaries like you should've. In the end, it doesn't even matter.
 

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Lemme add to this, is it really a terrible thing that your female that's your dating will lay with you after a couple of drinks, vs when she's not drinking she's just not as horny and has more of a guard up?
 

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A girl having drinks with me only means she finds me at least minimally attractive. At that point it's up to me to pace the rest of our interactions in such a way that I can gauge her interest in intimacy. I will do things that might cause her to ask me to stop and I want that reaction from her. Things like throwing my arm around her waist when we walk and place my hand on her hip near her ass so I can feel her butt move when she walks. If she pulls away, it's gonna be a short night. I may even ask her to go dutch to piss her off so she knows were not hanging out again. Heck maybe she will leave and i'll recover that night and get a new number before going home. Flip the script man and shiit test them back.
 

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Kino is overrated. Don't touch her on the first date until she touches you first. You're losing out on a lot of women if your expectation is first date sex. Most just won't do it, unless you're willing to go great lengths (take them 3-4 different venues over an entire evening) to do so. Stick to the script, spin plates, and you will maximize your success. Introduce new women into your life in a staggered fashion.
 
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