IOI or Friendly Behavior?

[total_afc]

I have a tough time distinguishing between true attraction and just friendly behavior where sexual attraction is absent.

For example, I was at a club, and a mixed group of guys and girls just started busting out spontaneously in song. The "leader" of the group, a hot ass brunette with a bangin' body motions me over to come join them to sing with them.

She puts me in a headlock and presses her body against mine. I instinctively grab her waist. This feels really good, I'm enjoying it.

My buddies are ready to roll to meet up with other friends. So I announce to the girl I have to go. "You do that," she says. Seems mildly annoyed. I would've made a move if I knew if any of the guys in her group was a boyfriend or not.

Is this an example of strong IOI's: being invited over by a girl to join her group, and her kino-ing me by putting her arm around me and pressing her body against mine?

 

[joekerr31]

drunk women = stupid behavior.

dont try to figure them out when they are drunk. their behavior can mean anything - they aren't THINKING.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

Deleted.

 

[Victory Unlimited]

Yo Total_AFC,


I have found that the ONLY true way to determine the difference between a truly interested woman and your garden-variey Attention Whhore is by putting her on the spot and making a DIRECT, sexual overture towards her.

These overtures can take MANY different forms, but in YOUR situation, I would have gone for a some kind of "classy(?)" kiss AND a number close. IF one of the guys at her table was a boyfriend, she sure as hell seemed to be disrespecting him HERSELF------so why should YOU respect him. lol

I believe that if you would have put her on the spot like THAT, she would have either came across with "the goodies" or would have immediately "pretended" to be "outraged" by your bold behavior------thereby, quickly revealing herself as the FULL BLOWN Attention Whhore that I suspect that she was.

Either way, you would have left with ANSWERS that night rather than "questions"...


March on.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

advice deleted. he should be giving me advice! What was I thinking.

 

[total_afc]

You guys are so cynical! Do you guys get laid?

 

[wjh]

You guys are so cynical! Do you guys get laid?

:crackup:

 

[edger]

Speaking of drunk/buzzed women, this is why I hate hooking up with them. You never know if the interest is genuine or not. Women get "beer goggles" just like men, and lower their standards. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem banging a hot drunk chic, but I don't ever for an instant take it that she's genuinely interested in me.

It's tricky..sometimes, it's the chics true colors coming out and she's genuinely interested in you, and other times, it's the "beer goggles" at work.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

You guys are so cynical! Do you guys get laid?

You know what. (edited out expletive) I take back my advice. You're right. She was really into you. Drunk or not, she wanted you man. Her friends and your friends were just jealous of you two and decided to c0ckblock you two.

She really wanted you. Hot babes love submissive men who act like dogs at their command. I can't speak for the rest here, but you're right, I don't get laid because I don't do things the way you do, as it should be. Maybe one day, if you are generous to offer your advice to us loosers here, will I be able to better read women's sexual interest and get some a$s.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

While I will not begin to try to speak for anyone else, seems like you and the OP already are, I can just answer your questions as they apply to me.

a. yes, you gotta know when they are approaching you, as women do it differently than men, and if you are not aware of what the score is, you will miss all the signs.

b. Yes, not as much as I would like, yet, I've been seeing signals from all kinds of girls, everywhere, including work, gym, etc. The hottie (hb9) that I've hooked up with recently, 27 years old, LTR potential, just a few days offered to take me to a "nice dinner and then we can do 'whatever' ".

c. Yes. Always escalate. It is a waste of time to do anything else and not escalate. I am escalating ASAP these days. Right away, I can't recall the last time a chick actually put the breaks on any of my physical advances and escalation.

d. Results have been pretty good, I would say. 3 new chicks this month so far, and all of them in under 7 hours from initial meeting/contact. Two of those were in less than 3 hours. One is 21 years old, the other 37 years old, and both different type of personality. I don't even worry about when and how often I get laid. How many here just worry about the fact that they can't even read woman's signals?

To tell you the truth, I rather answer posts where I feel like I can help out the OP, where I have an objective view and can relate to him, based on my failures and successes in the past, than come in here and post about anybody I am getting into bed with, and make it sound like I am bragging, as it really is becoming easier and easier each time. Some of these posts, asking for help, scream afc-ness, and it is so obvious to me as to what needs to be done.

Some of these posts are very common, yet there is no way the poster can be detached and is missing all the factors that make the difference in final result. I had posted a good response to him, on what he did wrong, and what he needs to do next time. He got sensitve and defensive, so I realize it was a waste of time. Some people get too caugh up in their own struggles, and really are not open to getting feedback, so I can't help him at this point.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

I forgot what I wrote to him. I should have saved it. Well, he kinda pi$sed me off, as I took him as coming across as an ingrate who only wants to be told whatever he wants.

You questioning our posts was more legitimate. You had specific questions, and were all legitimate, so I took the time to respond. Damn, I hate it when you guys force me to brag about this stuff.

You're right. At that point, the only thing left to do for him is to move forward, as a way of calling her out. If she's gonna act that way, she is fair game.

 

[MikeYikes122]

Are you kidding me?

Hell yeah she was interested in you. It sounds to me like she approached you, or she was trying to at least.

I obviously wasn't there and didn't see this interaction take place, but from the way I understand it a drunk girl you didn't know grabbed you, told you to dance with her and put you in a headlock.

Did you need a written invitation?

I once had a girl walk up to me at a bar, grab me by the hand and lead me to a booth with her and a few of her friends. I can't give you many more details than that because I was blackout drunk, but your come on sounds way stronger than what I experienced. And while the night was hazy, I do know one thing: I went home with her. The play was awful because we were both drunk and fumbling around on each other, but she was still a notch on my bedpost nonetheless.

If I was in your spot, the second that girl called me over I would have been in autopilot. It doesn't look like everyone agrees with me, but I think your situation was a no-brainer.

EDIT - One final thought: The girl didn't ask you to buy her a drink, or you didn't say that at least. And if you didn't get the feeling she was just looking for a free handout, then I'd say you were money with her, initially at least.

 

[Mr.Positive]

I agree that she was interested, or at least, found you attractive at that moment.

I've found that when women are drunk, they don't think (like Joekerr said), but it can be a good thing. If a drunk chick puts her hands on you, yeah, she's attracted to you! She's not thinking, just reacting to emotions and attraction.

It means you are doing something right.

That being said, it doesn't really mean much though, because there could be 2 dozen dudes that she was attracted to in her drunken stupor...but it's a nice confidence boost though!

In a situation like that, don't question if she's interested. You'll act more natural with the feeling that you just KNOW she's interested. Assume the sale.