IOI Game Backlash

[ManlyMan]

Anybody noticing girls are hostile to IOI game recently? A year ago this was not the case. Getting really hostile (lots of girls wearing sunglasses and getting dirty looks when they suspicious you are trying to game them) looks from women (In other words I am not even trying to game them). I quit game 7 or 8 years ago. A few here and there. that's it. so this is weird.

 

[corrector]

You mean you get no IOIs? Welcome to the incel club.

 

[RazorRambo24]

Its just about understanding what women deal with in 2023 and have been dealing with since the beginning of time. Men are more horny than ever. We're at the pinnacle of what the porn industry, social media and media in general has done to man.

Women get harassed way more than you can imagine. After a while they just build up a defensive mode that fires up quite often in some women. The worse of them are women who have been bagged and tagged too many times by guys who treat them like objects and don't give them a lick of affection or attention after the fact.

I am supremely glad that life hit me with some harsh lessons and allowed me to understand women on a deeper and more personal level so that I can show them more respect than I used to. I hurt alot of women and this is no flex, karma is real and it got me bad. While I didn't hurt the majority of those women intentionally, it was my actions, lack of actions and emotions/understanding toward them that caused them to be hurt.

A huge portion of men, especially in the redpill community which is lets be honest, largely comprised of incels and AFC's, still don't understand women <-- this is the problem.

 

[corrector]

Its just about understanding what women deal with in 2023 and have been dealing with since the beginning of time. Men are more horny than ever. We're at the pinnacle of what the porn industry, social media and media in general has done to man.

Women get harassed way more than you can imagine. After a while they just build up a defensive mode that fires up quite often in some women. The worse of them are women who have been bagged and tagged too many times by guys who treat them like objects and don't give them a lick of affection or attention after the fact.

I am supremely glad that life hit me with some harsh lessons and allowed me to understand women on a deeper and more personal level so that I can show them more respect than I used to. I hurt alot of women and this is no flex, karma is real and it got me bad. While I didn't hurt the majority of those women intentionally, it was my actions, lack of actions and emotions/understanding toward them that caused them to be hurt.

A huge portion of men, especially in the redpill community which is lets be honest, largely comprised of incels and AFC's, still don't understand women <-- this is the problem.

AFC is an outdated word. You mean simpery.

 

[RazorRambo24]

AFC is an outdated word. You mean simpery.

I think AFC is a good word as it differentiates from simps. Simps are different because not every simp is going to be angry and frustrated. simps are just like giving women too much attention just for the sake of it, leaving cutesy cakey comments under pictures, over pedestalizing women, giving girls flowers unwarranted, etc

 

[corrector]

I think AFC is a good word as it differentiates from simps. Simps are different because not every simp is going to be angry and frustrated. simps are just like giving women too much attention just for the sake of it, leaving cutesy cakey comments under pictures, over pedestalizing women, giving girls flowers unwarranted, etc

What I mean to say is the word is hardly used anymore in any red-pill/black-pill discourse whereas it was very dominant as a word in the 00s era. The AFC would be the Simp. The BAFC/WBAFCs would be the incels and MGTOWs and blackpill think.

The AFC engages in supplicating behaviour (ie Nice guy behaviour, buying flowers, being the good gentleman) with the hopes of currying romantic/sexual favour with the woman. The key thing pushed in 00s PUA marketing material, and I mean like David DeAngelow, and others who used that term to the MAX was that AFCs SUPPLICATE - and you can't divorce supplciation from AFC behaviour. Instead soft negs, and other smart game techniques are employed not to do that.

The default game of an AFC is to be a simp. It's just easier to call it a simp.

What person who is not an AFC would also be a simp then?

 

[RazorRambo24]

What I mean to say is the word is hardly used anymore in any red-pill/black-pill discourse whereas it was very dominant as a word in the 00s era. The AFC would be the Simp. The BAFC/WBAFCs would be the incels and MGTOWs and blackpill think.

The AFC engages in supplicating behaviour (ie Nice guy behaviour, buying flowers, being the good gentleman) with the hopes of currying romantic/sexual favour with the woman. The key thing pushed in 00s PUA marketing material, and I mean like David DeAngelow, and others who used that term to the MAX was that AFCs SUPPLICATE - and you can't divorce supplciation from AFC behaviour. Instead soft negs, and other smart game techniques are employed not to do that.

The default game of an AFC is to be a simp. It's just easier to call it a simp.

What person who is not an AFC would also be a simp then?

I dont think theres too many simps in the redpill community. I think the redpill goes against simping to an extreme.. infact some of the redpill/blackpill dudes are more like "NO ATTENTION TO WOMEN AT ALL! >:[" as if women are supposed to pull a marry poppins, fly out into the air and land into their lap with an umbrella. I think that alot of the redpills who are't incels used to be simps though.

As far as all the other acronyms like MGTOW and all that, im not too familiar, I dont really adhere to too much of that content..

When I think of AFC's , I think of the Angry, Frustrated guys who want to punch women who rejected them and who thik every girl like sthem if they just talk to them.. despite no real IOIS

 

[BergischerLöwe]

It's still regularly used in RedPill communities, but simp is far more common.

The way I see it, AFC and Simp mean the same thing except how they are used. Folks will self-identify as AFC, but I've never heard someone refer to themselves as a Simp.

Simp = someone else being AFC.
AFC = Me being AFC.

I personally would define a simp as someone who supplicates to women and tries to woo them by sacrificing his self respect

 

[Gamisch]

Anybody noticing girls are hostile to IOI game recently? A year ago this was not the case. Getting really hostile (lots of girls wearing sunglasses and getting dirty looks when they suspicious you are trying to game them) looks from women (In other words I am not even trying to game them). I quit game 7 or 8 years ago. A few here and there. that's it. so this is weird.

Yes. As described above, a lot of it has to d with both the explosion of porn and so called "game"(which exists out of approach bootcamps ect). At some point 2women have to weaponize themselves and avoid men as much as possible.

As always , women are ahead of us with game. I remember many years (like 7,8) ago several women already mentioned that they avoid eye contact with men because men will "atack" immediately.

So two things are going on OP: 1. Its a shapr observation. Because the landscape dod change. Women are less eager to flirt with just any man. You migh even say they are less needy due to OLD, although the latter can be quite a stretch.

More importantly is 2; YOU gotta adjust. Stop looking for ioi. Make sure you are the BVOY(BEST VERSION ) so you are a positive force of nature moving forward. I am telling yall, you'll get IoI from EVERYTHING that breaths life! Men , women childern dogs everything will pick up on your energy and want to be around you. Thats the solution.

Its about working in your innergame. Try this and watch how suddenly you get even MORE ioi than you ever got before.