Intro post/ my dilemma

ohsnap

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Long time reader of these forums (I've been visiting sosuave, off and on, for over 5 years). Never posted before. I'm a 25 year old AFC. I try my best not to be, but girls always seem to get the better of me. No matter how much I think I'm putting my best foot forward or being the 'dominant male', in the end - girls I'm really into always turn me into an AFC. In my whole life I've only fvcked 1 girl who I actually had a decent amount of attraction to (I've only fvcked 1 girl while I was sober!! How sad is that!!), she was my gf for about 3 months and then my AFC kicked in and she actually quoted on dumping me - "You're p*ssy whipped. I can walk all over you if I want.". Yeah.. she was calling me an AFC. She was a HB9 and I actually initially fvcked it up by dumping HER and then retracting my decision and getting desperate not to lose her. What a fvcking idiot, right? Idiocy is my middle name...

All that was about 5 years ago. Long in the past. Haven't met anyone since with mutual attraction, though I'll admit I have spent most of that time in-doors being a freakin' loser.

My question here, is whether I walk away from a current situation with pride, or whether I continue to persue the girl. I'll make up a couple of names first, so we don't get confused with the girls. We'll call the girl I'm attracted to "Sue" and her friend "Bertha". Sue is a HB8 and Bertha is about a 6. Sue is 24, Betha is 20.

Both of these girls are from overseas. Sue is new to the country and I instantly took a fancy to her. This was about 7 weeks ago, I met her on her 2nd night here. I got her digits on the first night and spent a lot of time "HANGING OUT" with her (when of course, really, I was hoping she was interpreting these as dates).

After I'd known her maybe 4-5 weeks, I went out drinking with her and some of her friends (all foreigners). That night I met her friend Bertha, who kept saying stuff about wanting to find a man because she was lonely. Anyway, I ended up fvcking her at the end of the night. Partially cause I had blue balls, partially I was looking for some female validation, mostly because she invited herself back to my place while I was half wasted. The sex sucked. I could barely even keep it up with this girl (the beer probably didn't help). I actually kept worrying about whether Sue would find out about it, while we were fvcking.

Since then I have forced the contact with Bertha to an absolute minimum and only responded to be polite, and so she won't bi*ch about me to Sue. I still don't know if Sue knows I fvcked Bertha or not.

Anyway, last week I took Sue out Ice Skating, then the casino, and at 2am I drove her home and kissed her, told her that I like her, she's a wonderful gal, etc,etc. She kissed back, open mouth. There were 2 short make out sessions and a peck on the lips as she got out the car to go inside.

Since then she pretty much hasn't responded to any SMS I have sent her (very few). She responded to maybe 2/4 or 2/5 that I sent. She cancelled our 'date' (which wasn't set in stone, anyway) for Tuesday without even notifying me. Monday night I had decided it was a waste of time, deleted her number off my phone so I wouldn't send any messages that made me look like an AFC (hide the truth!!!).

She sent me a message this morning saying "I'm going down south this weekend" (I already knew this) "What are you up to this weekend? Hopefully see you next week! ". I haven't responded, and I'm not going to. Bi*ch is playing games, which is not cool by me. So my question to everyone is.. under what circumstances should I re-persue this girl? Should I just go all out and go for it anyway? Should I forget the whole thing?
 

mothballs

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Sounds like you're too worried about being an AFC to actually see what happens with this girl. She's only known you like her for what a week? And she cancelled one date that wasn't set in stone... I'd give it a little more time before you flat out call them mind games and show her the door.
 

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I'm pretty sure Sue knows that you and Bertha got it on. Girls love to gossip and talk about their sex lives to each other. Especially close friends.

I think this Sue girl gave you a kiss because you took her out ice skating and then the casino. For the love of Zeus, please tell me you didn't pay for everything including bets at the casino for her.

Consider her kiss as a sort of "thank you for treating me like a princess and paying for everything and having sex with my ugly friend so in case you try to get it on with me, i can use her as an excuse and say that it wouldn't be a good idea for me to mess around with a guy that my friend likes...now i'm gonna go bang my guy who I only met yesterday and hasn't acted AFC at all".

Plus, if the sex was bad, then you bet that she heard about it and probably wouldn't want to sleep with you now anyways. Unless you gave Bertha multiple orgasms, then maybe Sue would be interested.

Stop "hanging out" with women. Nothing will throw you in the friend zone faster than an ice cream date followed by shoe shopping and shedding a tear over a romantic comedy afterwards.

Oh well, you live and learn. Another day, another woman.
 

horaholic

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Hey, at least you got to bang a girl named 'Bertha'. That's always been one of my lifelong goals!
Let me guess, is she a fatty?

You have to consider that Sue may be one of those girls who takes the guys that her friend likes, or she may not care. We all know how weird girls are. Bertha may have mentioned that you have a huge cok, and maybe Sue wants some. Hell, maybe they want a threesome. You never know.

I wouldnt throw in the towel yet, but dont do any chasing. Stick to the DJ guidelines. Have some kind of excuse to go back to your place next time you hang out with her. And dont tell her you like her anymore.
 

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horaholic said:
Hey, at least you got to bang a girl named 'Bertha'. That's always been one of my lifelong goals!
Let me guess, is she a fatty?

You have to consider that Sue may be one of those girls who takes the guys that her friend likes, or she may not care. We all know how weird girls are. Bertha may have mentioned that you have a huge cok, and maybe Sue wants some. Hell, maybe they want a threesome. You never know.

I wouldnt throw in the towel yet, but dont do any chasing. Stick to the DJ guidelines. Have some kind of excuse to go back to your place next time you hang out with her. And dont tell her you like her anymore.

first off I want to give my props to they guy on bangin a chick named Bertha-I thought "they" were extinct-you proved me and a lot of scientists wrong-lol-

Seriously though-the guy needs to relax, stop makin the situation a top shelf priority when it should be a a third or a forth and...SEE SOME OTHER GIRLS PLEASE!!!
 

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FWIW Bertha and Sue were made up names... reread what he wrote.
 

ohsnap

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Yeah "Bertha" is a made up name. She was a chubby girl.. I'd never bang a really fat one (without at least 20 beers down the gullet first).

Oh, and something I didn't mention... Sue is a virgin. She's very reserved and is not out "banging some non AFC she met last night". Don't ask how I know - I know. She hasn't told me this. And before you ask me why the fvck I'm after a virgin - this is up to me :rolleyes:

Thanks for the advice. I haven't responded to her last message and I'm not going to. Just gonna keep having fun doing whatever I'm doing... and hopefully she'll realise what she's missing out on :cool:. Going out drinking with a HB8 tonight and it should be fun.

BTW I didn't pay for sh*t. She's probably spent more on me than I have on her - though that's not taking gas into account.
 
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