internet email question?

[MRomeo99]

I've tried to tell 'em too Francisco. I've realistically had dates with different women, 5 nights a week for the last three weeks. Now, I've had a few repeats in there, there is one I'm starting to dig who I've been dating a few months, once a week or so, so who knows I may have to slow my roll. 24 year old, long red hair, yoga instructor, massage therapist. Yummy. I'd say it's been about 80/20 online versus real life. Problem is, I get so many dates from online with fun interesting chicks that I don't really get to meet as many as I would like IRL. I usually have to have a night off every third or fourth night, and then I fill my social calender for the next three or four days.

So, no offense to the guys working boot camps, 100 approaches, whatever. Would you really rather approach 100 different women, or would you rather be chased by 100 different women, and spend quality time with each one of them? Do you get better by making approaches to women, or do you get better by going to happy hour with a woman, and convincing her to take a walk on the beach with you?

I don't have a formalized approach, I just talk to everyone that comes within 10 feet of me. I'm friendly, and social. I meet all the women I'd like with that rule. My personal space is ten feet around me, if you enter that zone, you are in my world.

Of course that makes for some interesting stories. Monday night, I met this one girl at happy hour, I told her I could only stay for two beers then I had to run. She really wanted to go do something else, I told her I couldn't. She leaves. I sms the next one, who comes to the same place. We hang out for a while play pool, whatever. We come pretty close to closing the place down, she attacks me in the back of the bar, and then she goes home. I stay and talk to my friend who manages the bar who I've known for ten years. One of the waitresses, beautiful tall, dark haired exotic looking one that gets hit on constantly, that I had busted on all night(kept calling her an undercover blonde), invites me to go to the Ritz with her and the other girls. Long story short I didn't make it home until about the time I had to leave for work.

I met the first two online. Because of the first two I met the other girls. But, I forgot I'm supposed to be a loser, because I have an online profile.

 

[Player_Supreme]

Well, let me throw my brick upon the pond of this issue.

I used to not believe in meeting women online, and I saw it as lame. You heads know I do my shyt in the clubs and I've reached a high level of success with this medium.

After experimenting with the online thing, I now see it as a viable means of meeting available women. The women once they resort to putting ads out on the net, have reached a high level of looking for a "soul mate".

Women are looking for that metaphysical connection with destiny as I've learned to pitch. I just got home from an internet date. I met her for the first time. I just started talking to her on monday.

If your running a team like I do then you need to take advantage of EVERY opportunity and market. To not use this means/medium for meeting available and attractive women because you think it's lame like I used to, is to keep yourself in the land of stupidity.

But it might be an age thing. For anyone over 30 you should also be hunting online. I think the kids 16-25 it might be a different story. Which is the reason for the differences of opinion. The one moderator who is expressing a dislike is only 18 and falls within that age bracket.

Although my own son of 18 has very successfully used the internet to meet and date the last 8 girls (that I know of) he has had in the last few months. Don't bother taking pot shot for the haters.

When a woman get's near her 30's and she is unmarried more than likely she has been through the gamult of bad boys out there and is tired and broken or jaded on the whole dating thing. She will begin to look for that elusive "soul mate" and put more belief into that whole concept of destiny.

I guess enough said.

 

[frivolousz21]

I agree!

I am not an opponent to internet meeting.

I am against it if you are AFC and you cant meet in person at bars, clubs, supermarkets, malls. WALMART!

by the way I was flammed for saying id meet women at Walmart a few months ago.

I met a hb9 looking at perfume and number closed on monday. she goes to the community college by me.

anyways if you got the skills in the real world..then why not use the internet.

Regardless of what all the Haters say..places like MYSPACE.com
are ****ing loaded with hot, horny, women!

 

[Vincent]

Originally posted by Soma
Net haters...god bless em. Just means more women for me. And when the haters finally do come around to using the net as a tool, which it is, their skills will be lacking and make the guys WITH skills look that much better.

It's a positive in my mind.

You have fun with that.

Remember, its pretty damn easy to make stuff up on the internet.

If you have the skills, why are you using a crutch like the internet. The chicks on the internet will never be as fine as the chicks in real life.

But then again what do I know, I guess everything in life is about how many chicks you can get, and its a good idea to settle because it makes you happy.

 

[Player_Supreme]

Originally posted by Vincent
You have fun with that.

Remember, its pretty damn easy to make stuff up on the internet.

If you have the skills, why are you using a crutch like the internet. The chicks on the internet will never be as fine as the chicks in real life.

But then again what do I know, I guess everything in life is about how many chicks you can get, and its a good idea to settle because it makes you happy.

What is your definition of fine?

This is mine:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v487/Player_Supreme/Val.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v487/Player_Supreme/SXY.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v487/Player_Supreme/shannie.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v487/Player_Supreme/hot.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v487/Player_Supreme/hot2.jpg

oh and of course for the bi-dudes:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v487/Player_Supreme/chrisandcraigtokyofrosjeanjacket_edited.jpg

You see son there is a big wide world outside of this one little site here. There are many roads to the land o pvssy as you will learn as you get older and open your eyes!

 

[Vincent]

There is more to my life than banging as many chicks as possible.

But thats apparently all you want, so use online dating if that helps you.

 

[Player_Supreme]

Originally posted by Vincent
There is more to my life than banging as many chicks as possible.

But thats apparently all you want, so use online dating if that helps you.

Here is something from the ebook: The Dating Truth:

"When you date only a few women you will fall prey to misconceptions and bitter downward spirals of attitudes which will block your ability to meet other women. When you date a lot of women you have the ability to learn more about what does and doesn’t work for you. You have the option of finding those traits that you desire vs those that don’t work for you. Thereby you learn to take control of your whole dating life."

Myself I'm looking for a soul mate. And in order to conduct my search of course I need a wide sampling, don't you agree Vincent.

 

[Soma]

Originally posted by Vincent
...But then again what do I know?...

Good question. I'm wondering the same thing.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by MRomeo99
.... I don't have a formalized approach, I just talk to everyone that comes within 10 feet of me. I'm friendly, and social. I meet all the women I'd like with that rule. My personal space is ten feet around me, if you enter that zone, you are in my world. ...

That is exactly what I do. I don't discriminate against any woman. If I pass one in the hallway at work, I naturally say hello. If I see one in the lunchroom at the microwave I ask her what we're having for lunch and tell her my mom only made me PB&J. They always offer me part of their lunch whenever I tell them that. I say what the hell, who am I to pass up a free meal?

Too many guys haven't experienced just how easy it is to pick up women when your game is on so all they can understand is assuming that only losers are online. More times than not they are too young and/or inexperienced to know anything else. That's fine, I was young and inexperienced once too, however it does take dedicated effort to grow out of it.

By the way, the hottie I met tonight is actually a brunette with dark eyes, slim, thin and trim with a very nice @ss! I didn't know that they made them up here in Minnesota. She's a hot Irish lass who thinks my ex is a @sshole and wants to prove to me that she is worth dating. I just laughed and told her that she's had to do something special to convence me so she wants me to make some time for her in my schedule.

I love it when it's so easy... We'll see what the other one has to say tomorrow night...

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by Vincent
There is more to my life than banging as many chicks as possible.

But thats apparently all you want, so use online dating if that helps you.

V, you sound like you think we're all just horney teenagers who are looking for any instance not to whack off at night. You're kidding, right?

 

[Vincent]

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
V, you sound like you think we're all just horney teenagers who are looking for any instance not to whack off at night. You're kidding, right?

I wouldn't consider it that.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by Player_Supreme
...After experimenting with the online thing, I now see it as a viable means of meeting available women. The women once they resort to putting ads out on the net, have reached a high level of looking for a "soul mate". ...

But Player, tell me you didn't take the time to learn rules of sarging online and then you used your street skills to make it work. You have to take the time and actually work with the system to make it work, you didn't just jump in like a AFC expecting to get something for nothing.

I think it takes a special talent to sarge online. You need to have good communication skills and not rely on immediate feedback from a woman in order to plan your next move. You have to have enough game to control the interaction from square one and have enough balls to take it offline right off the bat.

I'm sure there not too many DJs that are confident enough in their skills to do that. Maybe that's why its so easy for the rest of us, no competition. The funny thing is that it's not any different than if you meet a women in a grocery store or at work.

 

[saki]

Vincent got OWNED!!

 

[MRomeo99]

I think you hit the nail on the head Francisco.

I think it takes a special talent to sarge online. You need to have good communication skills and not rely on immediate feedback from a woman in order to plan your next move. You have to have enough game to control the interaction from square one and have enough balls to take it offline right off the bat.

I'm sure there not too many DJs that are confident enough in their skills to do that. Maybe that's why its so easy for the rest of us, no competition. The funny thing is that it's not any different than if you meet a women in a grocery store or at work.

I think that is the core to my success online. I was already pretty successful with women, my main hang up was that I didn't meet enough women. And being too busy to actively go out to meet women, I used what I could. I spent some time, I worked on my online game. I experimented, I kept what worked, threw out what didn't. The more women I met online, the better I got at it. The more I met and moved from online to RL. The better I got at meeting them and interacting with them IRL.

A woman is a woman is a woman. Whether you meet them online, in a grocery store, at the video store, or at a club. The more women you meet, however you meet them, the better you'll be with women period. Like Player quoted, the more women you interact with(notice I didn't say sleep with), the more you'll be informed on what you want, and what you don't want. Online is a tool just like anything else, it's really no different than any other way to meet women.

The problem Vincent and others, is most guys on this site are NEVER going to get good at approaching. How many true PUA's are there on this site? Probably less than a dozen or two. The rest of them are struggling. If a guy was struggling with women, I'd prefer he use whatever means necessary to meet women. Even if GASP he has to resort to online. Perhaps, he uses an online service for a few months, meets a dozen women or so, his confidence shoots up, and next thing he knows, he's meeting more women in real life. It's just a means to an end. Of course everyone gets to define their own "end".

What I find interesting, and I'm sure Francisco, and Player will agree. Is that with just a little work on your game, you really can stand out from a crowd. I've watched IM's/ Emails from guys sending them to hot chicks, and most of them have NO game. It's really not that hard to get good. And the rewards are "plentiful".

Romeo

 

[frivolousz21]

anyways I didnt send it back..didnt feel a need to.

also...

as for online dating..its cool...I will still get more than 50 percent of dates, ****s, hoes, and all of the above from the "real world"

but hey there is nice PUZZY in the matrix!

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by MRomeo99
I think you hit the nail on the head Francisco.
...
The problem Vincent and others, is most guys on this site are NEVER going to get good at approaching. How many true PUA's are there on this site? Probably less than a dozen or two. The rest of them are struggling. If a guy was struggling with women, I'd prefer he use whatever means necessary to meet women. Even if GASP he has to resort to online. Perhaps, he uses an online service for a few months, meets a dozen women or so, his confidence shoots up, and next thing he knows, he's meeting more women in real life. It's just a means to an end. Of course everyone gets to define their own "end".

What I find interesting, and I'm sure Francisco, and Player will agree. Is that with just a little work on your game, you really can stand out from a crowd. I've watched IM's/ Emails from guys sending them to hot chicks, and most of them have NO game. It's really not that hard to get good. And the rewards are "plentiful".

Romeo

I'm not sure about their skills of approaching, they could be pretty d@mn good in environments which they can have control. Ones where they can have that immediate feedback to show them that they are heading down the right path with a woman. For all we know, they can kick @ss in that type of environment.

I believe the point of separation is the flexibility that some of us have as to not being dependent on sarging in only one type of environment. This goes well beyond just the Net, it includes bars, night clubs, grocery stores, school, work and probably a few other places.

There has been threads about each of those places being terrible for picking up women. I will admit that it can be challenging but sarging there is definitely possible. You just have to use a variety of different skills and be dynamic enough to go from one skill to another effortlessly.

I agree with you in that with just a little work on your game and understanding you specific style, one can really enhance their 'sargability.' The woman I was out with last night said several times that she was so glad that we got together and felt good that there are 'real men' on-line, even if it was only me. I still say that I have an advantage because I'm not a typical Minnesotan so it's easy to stand out in a crowd here. What I am really surprised with is that I don't feel that I'm putting forth much effort to meet women, it feels as if it's a snowball rolling down a snowy hill getting bigger and picking up momentum.

Get this, I just started at a new company in the beauty salon industry (ie - tons of women). One of my coworkers saw me and my date in this martini bar last night. She comes by my desk this morning and introduces herself and tells me that she saw me through the window when she was walking by with her girlfriend.

I told her that it was a great place and she tells that she's wanted to go there but haven't had a reason to (huh ). Out of habit I say "We should go some time after work (DOH! I don't usually do the dating at work thing). Quicker than a heartbeat she agrees and asks if we should go tonight! I tell her that I was busy tonight, tomorrow, Saturday and Sunday (remember this is the week I had six dates in a row). She thinks that I'm blowing her off! Now I'm stuck with her thinking that I'm a tease because I agreed just to go out to lunch with her tomorrow.

I'm not complaining, but I feel that I'm could easily cross over to the 'player' mode and really get into some trouble. I still think I should teach a class at the local community college, lol...

 

[Vincent]

Originally posted by saki
Vincent got PWNED!!

Fixed.