Internet Dating 101

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Re: Re: Bump

Originally posted by Player_Supreme
No it hasn't changed. I think its weak game to sit at home and not get out into the real world...I enjoy the real contact of people not the stirile world of the internet.

There are some guys on here who only rely on internet dating, now that is weak. You come to this site to learn how to meet women and you resort to internet cop out dating.

I do believe in using Emails to communicate with women though.


I will say that I am gaining new respect for it as a marketing tool. It is amazing how many woman are responding to my ad.

I have to disagree about the Net being sterile. It can be seen that way if all you do is email and instant message women. But isn't the purpose of the dating services just to allow you to make an introduction so that you CAN meet? Like I said before, if there isn't an interest to meet the woman or vice versa after the first 2 or 3 emails I move on, why waste time?

You're right in seeing it as a marketing tool, absolutely! For literally a couple of dollars a week you can advertise your availability and it's working for you 24/7. If you know what you're doing your ROI pays for itself in a fraction of that time. Where else can you be sitting at work and get an email out of the blue for a coffee date after work? It's an amazing tool once you learn how to use it.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by MRomeo99
...So, what's the difference? Is there any difference between a girl I meet online that lives 10 minutes away who is willing to come over tonight at midnight, versus someone I met at the grocery store? I have met some fine ass women off the internet. And ultimately it comes down to what works. It's a different skillset. But, in the end if you're getting what you want, whether that's a relationship, some FB's, or whatever, then who cares how you did it?...

This is what I've been saying all along. The Net is just a medium, it's no different than going to a club and sarging women there. Actually it's easier since the women don't have major b1tch screens up AND you can easily weed out the women that don't interest you by taking a minute to read their profile. But then again there have been DJ's who say that clubs are a waste of time too. I say that anyplace there is women is worth the effort to learn how to work that particular environment.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by Player_Supreme
Ok, I'm getting the hang of this shyt. Learning how to do my macking through just chattin:

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See, no difference than meeting a woman at a bar, club, bookstore, where ever. If you've got game, who the fvck cares which field you play on.

 

[Walden]

I dunno man, internet dating adds another level of mediation and almost guarantees youre talking to betagirls.
I mean Player_Sensei is one t\of the real deal players on this site , and he's forced into some bullsh!t email conversation for two weeks with some bi+ch he would have closed in 30 seconds in the real world.

 

[Player_Supreme]

Originally posted by Walden
I dunno man, internet dating adds another level of mediation and almost guarantees youre talking to betagirls.
I mean Player_Sensei is one t\of the real deal players on this site , and he's forced into some bullsh!t email conversation for two weeks with some bi+ch he would have closed in 30 seconds in the real world.

I have to agree, I coulda closed this girl so much faster. I am enjoying the seduction process though. It's far different than street game. You have time to actually enjoy the work or the art of it all.

Oh thanks for the vote of confidence...lol...Player_Sensei.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by Player_Supreme
I have to agree, I coulda closed this girl so much faster. I am enjoying the seduction process though. It's far different than street game. You have time to actually enjoy the work or the art of it all.

Oh thanks for the vote of confidence...lol...Player_Sensei.

Now tell me aren't going to take your enhanced seduction techniques out into the street and really tear some sh1t up!

By the way, I didn't think that you were 'putting up with' with her for two weeks, it never takes that long unless you want it too.

Oh yeah, I was just in contact with a Mediterranean honey who is in Minnesota now. This one has MAJOR possibilities! We've traded two emails and we're going out for coffee after work on Friday. I think she wants me to take her out dancing, I will if SHE plays her cards right!

No plans to hijack this thread so I'm going to post some details in my 'Objectivism' thread if it hasn't been pulled because the DJs weren't playing well together.

Sarge on Playa'!

 

[KC_Seductive]

Originally posted by Walden
I dunno man, internet dating adds another level of mediation and almost guarantees youre talking to betagirls.
I mean Player_Sensei is one t\of the real deal players on this site , and he's forced into some bullsh!t email conversation for two weeks with some bi+ch he would have closed in 30 seconds in the real world.

I've met women immediately after the first chat. I've even closed the same night. The only time I bother with a bunch of email is if she lives a good distance from me.

A little macking via email is cool even if you met them in person. Just don't get carried away with it.

 

[ER!C L!VE]

Yes. My experience is that if the girl wants you, then the fastest way to get her is to take the conversation to the phone. Then, set a meeting time and place and HIT IT STRONG!

 

[MRomeo99]

Yup.

Forget emails. IM or phone is the best way to accelerate to the next level. But, you gotta get her on the phone, and you gotta meet her really soon, or you will just be an "online fantasy". It's amazing how quickly you can f-close if that's what you're looking for. Something about flirting in IM, just goes right past all the b1tch shields and goes right to what makes em tick. You can say things in IM that you would never get away with in person. And you will be surprised how often the conversation turns sexual. And the things you can get her to say in IM that she NEVER would have said IRL.

M

 

[ER!C L!VE]

So true. That's why I like text messages on cell phones too. Many girls send texts with the same kind of mind frame of anonymity that they do in a chatroom or IM.

They'll say shyt they wouldn't say to you over the phone then come over to your place and do it!

 

[Player_Supreme]

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Now tell me aren't going to take your enhanced seduction techniques out into the street and really tear some sh1t up!

By the way, I didn't think that you were 'putting up with' with her for two weeks, it never takes that long unless you want it too.

Oh yeah, I was just in contact with a Mediterranean honey who is in Minnesota now. This one has MAJOR possibilities! We've traded two emails and we're going out for coffee after work on Friday. I think she wants me to take her out dancing, I will if SHE plays her cards right!

No plans to hijack this thread so I'm going to post some details in my 'Objectivism' thread if it hasn't been pulled because the DJs weren't playing well together.

Sarge on Playa'!

No please post on this thread so we all can learn! I've never done internet dating but as I said I have used emails to seduce women.

My time table on this one isn't set...I have no objectives and I am enjoying the Process instead of the Outcome.

 

[Player_Supreme]

Originally posted by ER!C L!VE
So true. That's why I like text messages on cell phones too. Many girls send texts with the same kind of mind frame of anonymity that they do in a chatroom or IM.

They'll say shyt they wouldn't say to you over the phone then come over to your place and do it!

Hmmmm...I haven't tried that yet. I at first thought it was corny when folks started talking about it on this site....I guess even old dogs can learn new tricks.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by Player_Supreme
No please post on this thread so we all can learn! I've never done internet dating but as I said I have used emails to seduce women.

My time table on this one isn't set...I have no objectives and I am enjoying the Process instead of the Outcome.

Alright, I'll do a crossover and post between threads.

I've met another woman who at first glance doesn't have as much going for her as Mrs. Mediterranean but I'm not one who gets 'one-itis' so I've been talking to her too.

After a pair of emails that have been kinda chit-chatish, I've suggested that we meet for coffee. I'm not one to take the typical steps of going for the phone number first, why waste time? I'll know within 15-20 minutes if it's worth continuing. Either way I should hear something from her tomorrow.

Now don't think that I'm going to play one against the other, all I'm doing is adding to my stable (team). It's easy not to see any one woman too often when you are seeing several women at once while still hanging out with the boys every week plus having other outside activities.

Oh, as an aside, I'm friendly with the head receptionist p*snicker*) at work. It was her birthday the other day so I get her a scented candle (yeah, I know about gifts) . Yesterday I was walking past her desk and stopped, turned and said "You know, we need to go out sometime; we're too damn good looking not to." There was a half a second pause and she said "You're right, we need to go drinking after work some night!" I said "good" and walked off, not setting it up or anything.

Today she stops down to my office just to say "hi!" We chit chatted and again I left it at that, no dates set. Can't do it Friday, it's Ms Mediterrarian night, maybe not tomorrow, I may go out to the other Ms. Internet. If I don't hear anything from her I'll check out the receptionist. Who ever is left will just have to wait until next week; I'm hanging out with my buds on Saturday and seeing my married lady friend on Sunday.

Yeah, I'm breaking rules left and right, dating on the net, letting women know that I think their interesting soon after meeting them, giving (cheap) gifts, going out with co-workers, going out with (not dating) an older married woman... D@mn, what else can I do that's against the rules!!!???

Pimpin' ain't easy but it sure is fun!!!
Now how's THAT for c/f????!!!

 

[KC_Seductive]

Originally posted by MRomeo99
Yup.

Forget emails. IM or phone is the best way to accelerate to the next level. But, you gotta get her on the phone, and you gotta meet her really soon, or you will just be an "online fantasy". It's amazing how quickly you can f-close if that's what you're looking for. Something about flirting in IM, just goes right past all the b1tch shields and goes right to what makes em tick. You can say things in IM that you would never get away with in person. And you will be surprised how often the conversation turns sexual. And the things you can get her to say in IM that she NEVER would have said IRL.

M

Very true.

The anonymity of the net allows them to be as freaky as they want to be. A lot of them are itching to cross that fine line from online fantasy to reality. If you play your cards right, you just might be the one they do it with.

Plus, some women don't like the club scene.

Another cool aspect of the online thing is that you can truly be an international player. Sometimes I'll get hit up by women who are planing to visit California. I met a couple of German girls online and hooked up with them during my trip to Europe last year. (Seperately though.....No threesome on that trip.)

 

[Player_Supreme]

Originally posted by Walden
I dunno man, internet dating adds another level of mediation and almost guarantees youre talking to betagirls.
I mean Player_Sensei is one t\of the real deal players on this site , and he's forced into some bullsh!t email conversation for two weeks with some bi+ch he would have closed in 30 seconds in the real world.

Oh this shyt just started the other day!

 

[Cleatus VanDamme]

I was a member of Match in 2003 and had a lot of luck meeting women. After the first few weeks I hit my stride and ended up being on a roll like Francisco described. I always set up a meeting after the second or third email - and never asked for the number beforehand, just arranged the meet via email, and didn't have any flake on me. I always set the meet for the same place, a popular sports bar, so I could always be comfortable in the surroundings. Although I never ended up in a relationship, I did **** a couple of them. Problem is, afterwards I dogged them out hard and blew them off. Now I want to join Yahoo, and in browsing through the profiles I see the same two girls have profiles up there...almost 9 months later!! Kinda makes me cringe thinking they will see my profile up again but, oh well.

One tip, before I pay money to join a site, I perfect my profile then browse available matches. The ones I find even halfway interesting I "bookmark", so once I pay I can begin instantly sending emails to profiles I want.

One c/f line I used as a headline was "Not conceited, just convinced!"

I always asked girls about their online experiences - one told a funny story about seeing a guys profile where the headline was "Computer geek + workout freak = oxymoron." Having the words "geek, freak and moron" made a horrible first impression!

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by Cleatus VanDamme
I was a member of Match in 2003 and had a lot of luck meeting women. After the first few weeks I hit my stride and ended up being on a roll like Francisco described. I always set up a meeting after the second or third email - and never asked for the number beforehand, just arranged the meet via email, and didn't have any flake on me. I always set the meet for the same place, a popular sports bar, so I could always be comfortable in the surroundings. Although I never ended up in a relationship, I did **** a couple of them. Problem is, afterwards I dogged them out hard and blew them off. Now I want to join Yahoo, and in browsing through the profiles I see the same two girls have profiles up there...almost 9 months later!! Kinda makes me cringe thinking they will see my profile up again but, oh well.

One tip, before I pay money to join a site, I perfect my profile then browse available matches. The ones I find even halfway interesting I "bookmark", so once I pay I can begin instantly sending emails to profiles I want.

One c/f line I used as a headline was "Not conceited, just convinced!"

I always asked girls about their online experiences - one told a funny story about seeing a guys profile where the headline was "Computer geek + workout freak = oxymoron." Having the words "geek, freak and moron" made a horrible first impression!

That's exactly how it's working for me. The funny thing is that you are absolutely right that you will probably see some of the same women on the same site if not other sites, I know I do. I don't care though, I never promise them anything, I always let them know that I'm just online to meet some cool people and maybe hang out. Those d@mn women always want more though!

You've got the game down pretty well, I do the same thing about perfecting the profile and scoping out the profiles to find the one to sarge so I can hit the ground running. That coupled with bypassing the phone thing and everything is good to go. I feel that if a woman goes for meeting you after a couple of emails, you've done your qualifying pretty well and she definitely has a decent interest level.

Oh yeah, I meet up at the same place too, a pretty cool coffee house where college age, artsy fartsy people hang out. Kinda Bohemian y'know.

One time I was making nice with the girl behind the counter while waiting for my date and we hit it off pretty well. Last week I was in there with another date and asked the girl behind the counter what they had that was good. I don't know if she was trying to get me in trouble but she said "Well the last time you were here you had..." So my date asks if I came there often and I said "Of course, this is a great place and the service is better than Starbucks." I think I appeased the girl and my date at the same time. I'll find out Friday with my latest Match.com friend.

 

[Player_Supreme]

That's good info fellas...what are some of the good sites to post on?

 

[KC_Seductive]

Originally posted by Cleatus VanDamme
Now I want to join Yahoo, and in browsing through the profiles I see the same two girls have profiles up there...almost 9 months later!! Kinda makes me cringe thinking they will see my profile up again but, oh well.

One tip, before I pay money to join a site, I perfect my profile then browse available matches. The ones I find even halfway interesting I "bookmark", so once I pay I can begin instantly sending emails to profiles I want.

Yahoo personals may be alright, but Yahoo chat is a waste of time. I used to chat on Yahoo, but nowadays there are mostly (women?) promoting their porno sites. Friendfinder is good.

 

[Big Pappy]

I've had mixed results with internet dating, just like real life.

Yahoo - Some time ago, back when it was free. The girl was quality in the brain, but quantity in the rear. Went out once, she paid for everything as I was just a poor student. Turned out that she lived eight houses away on the next street, found out as she was moving away to another city, about a week after our first chat. She came back down to visit her parents then bought me dinner.

UDate - This site was pretty good. Dated six girls, got tail from three of them no later than the second date. I still "see" one of them from time to time.

Match - Match is one of those that makes a deal with several other sites, that's usually why you see so many repeats. AOL uses match, as does MSN. The one chick I met here was on paper, all I wanted in a chick. The pic she sent was taken from about 1000 yards. Should have known...I asked her in an email if she was in shape....

She came down the stairs at the hotel and blocked the light from the chandelier she was so fat.

I was a gentleman, but I never called her back nor did I take her calls.


EHarmony - Damn pricy. Only use these folks if you're ready to get married. All the psych tests will reveal every secret you have.


It seems now all I get off of them are Russian chicks wanting me to save them from their country. All pretty hot, but when they say they love you after two emails....
What's really fun is when I tell them that I will send them the money to get a ticket if they show me a naked picture.

They write back super excited, but always ignore the request for the picture. I told this one chick that she was going to work on the corner and make 1000 dollars a day lying down! Next thing I knew, she had 3/4 the money to get here and needed me to sign a sponsor paper or something...love those wacky russian babes...