Interesting link about physical attraction

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wutangfinancial said:
^word...it's just a lot harder in a meat market setting, but I agree with what you said. I know from your job, you have plenty of observational data.
Very True. In a bar/club setting, average usually doesn't cut it.


And Potato:

You mentioned about guys settling for 7's and 8's because they are not confident enough to get 9's and 10's.

Just my 2 cents:

IMHO, naturally 9's and 10's are the cream of the cream and only about 1 in 20 or 1-25 women (aged 18-35) fit into this category. IF YOU are dating one of these women, she will constantly be getting stared and constantly getting hit on (sometimes right in front of you). Most men (and some women) after checking her out, will then look at you and size you up. I don't know about you, but I WOULD DISLIKE that attention.

Add to the fact, I am only a 7 or 7.5, NOBODY wants to be the Noticeably ugly person in the relationship.

Hence, the reason I stay away from the 9's and 10's. I can be perfectly happy with a 7 or 8 and I DON'T THINK I AM SETTLING.
 

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Initially physical attraction is what we all see. Thats the very first part of attraction and seduction. the rest is figured out after that point. Ive seen this many times. Pretty much anywhere I go I look for the most attractive women just to see how much they notice me. And I look for other women as well just not as much. Since about 2 years ago Ive noticed that I cannot go anywhere without women looking at me. Ive even caught some really hot girls STARING at me. I know I sound conceited but thats reality for me.
 

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Interceptor said:
You are so down on yourself that you can't connect with your sexuality.

You're not communicating sexually with women.

Women can sense from your eyes, body language , tone of voice, even how you feel and how you radiate that feeling, if you are a sexual person, and can arouse her.
Bascially, if you're not presenting yourself to her as a sexual man, she will NOT see you as a lover, or as a sexual "threat".

Be the "sexual threat".

Learn how.


And then do it.
BAM!!!....................you NAILED IT, bro!

Women have the best radar, for detecting the slightest instance of AFC, in most men. You are not scoring with them- because your game is not 100% complete. Any sign of hesitation, anxiety, apprehension, or seeking acceptance from women.....will shoot you down in flames. Only the MOST CONFIDENT/MASCULINE MEN get women. Period. They don't distinguish the ALPHA MALE......as any ordinary male. He is what he is because STANDS ABOVE ordinary males.....looks notwithstanding.
 

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mahon83050 said:
And Potato:

You mentioned about guys settling for 7's and 8's because they are not confident enough to get 9's and 10's.

Just my 2 cents:

IMHO, naturally 9's and 10's are the cream of the cream and only about 1 in 20 or 1-25 women (aged 18-35) fit into this category. IF YOU are dating one of these women, she will constantly be getting stared and constantly getting hit on (sometimes right in front of you). Most men (and some women) after checking her out, will then look at you and size you up. I don't know about you, but I WOULD DISLIKE that attention.

Add to the fact, I am only a 7 or 7.5, NOBODY wants to be the Noticeably ugly person in the relationship.

Hence, the reason I stay away from the 9's and 10's. I can be perfectly happy with a 7 or 8 and I DON'T THINK I AM SETTLING.
Perhaps settling wasn’t the best word to use. But the point, as you’ve clearly shown is that people do get along best with others who are closely their equal. As I tried to say before there is this natural process of sizing up and realizing where one belongs as you obviously have.

I have a girlfriend who is pretty hot, I’d say at least a 9. All the time guys are hitting on her and often right in front of me, almost as if I wasn’t there. I always smirk because;
1) I know that hitting on women is highly ineffectual.
2) I’m highly confident that none of these guys have the natural charisma/looks that I do.
3) Her answer to them is always the same. She puts her arm around me, gives me a little kiss on the cheek and says to the guy, “This here is potato and he is all the man I need.”
 

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potato said:
Perhaps settling wasn’t the best word to use. But the point, as you’ve clearly shown is that people do get along best with others who are closely their equal. As I tried to say before there is this natural process of sizing up and realizing where one belongs as you obviously have.

I have a girlfriend who is pretty hot, I’d say at least a 9. All the time guys are hitting on her and often right in front of me, almost as if I wasn’t there. I always smirk because;
1) I know that hitting on women is highly ineffectual.
2) I’m highly confident that none of these guys have the natural charisma/looks that I do.
3) Her answer to them is always the same. She puts her arm around me, gives me a little kiss on the cheek and says to the guy, “This here is potato and he is all the man I need.”

Good for you. Honestly, though. What do you rate yourself?

Did you hit the genetic lottery where you are better looking than 95% of all other men?
 

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potato said:
Perhaps settling wasn’t the best word to use. But the point, as you’ve clearly shown is that people do get along best with others who are closely their equal. As I tried to say before there is this natural process of sizing up and realizing where one belongs as you obviously have.

I have a girlfriend who is pretty hot, I’d say at least a 9. All the time guys are hitting on her and often right in front of me, almost as if I wasn’t there. I always smirk because;
1) I know that hitting on women is highly ineffectual.
2) I’m highly confident that none of these guys have the natural charisma/looks that I do.
3) Her answer to them is always the same. She puts her arm around me, gives me a little kiss on the cheek and says to the guy, “This here is potato and he is all the man I need.”

Good for you. Honestly, though. What do you rate yourself?

Did you hit the genetic lottery where you are better looking than 95% of all other men?
 

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In general, women value personality in their partner initally more than men do.

But its not a hard and fast rule. Girls like good looking guys. That's a fact. But you can't just lump girls together and make a general assumption. Girls are different.

My sister dated a guy who in our school girls rated a 4/10 in looks. But he was , funny, athletic and confident and had a lot of charisma. Throughout highschool he managed to pull a lot of good looking girls. My sister is an attractive girl.

Whereas on the otherhand I was talking to this girl at work and she said that there HAS to be at least some physical attraction for her to go anywhere w/ a guy. I also talked to a 20 year old girl who said the same thing.

So some girls value personality more than other girls do. That's just my experience, you just have to keep looking. Because there are very good looking girls who value personality, a lot who are better looking that those who don't value it as much.

However you must bring something else to the table like being talented, personality, ambition, confidence, style etc or a combination of the above.
 

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mahon83050 said:
Good for you. Honestly, though. What do you rate yourself?

Did you hit the genetic lottery where you are better looking than 95% of all other men?
I’m really not sure. My current girlfriend and past girlfriends have made such comments as, “Girls like me are a dime a dozen, but guys like you are one in a million.”




Here is another argument in favor of the fact that women are highly attracted to men’s looks. One day I was walking along and this car pulled up to me. There was this hot chick, offering me a ride to anywhere I wanted to go, even to her house if I wanted. Always up for an adventure I jumped in. Not five minutes down the road and cop cars were everywhere. Turns that they had some tip that a couple of criminals were to make some exchange very near where she picked me up. The cops were there watching and thought her picking me up was too suspicious.

They had me get out of the car and were questioning me by the rear right fender. I could still hear the conversation between her and the cop that was questioning her. He asked her why she would pick up a stranger when for all she knew I could have been some rapist. She said, “Just look at him, there is nothing he could do to me that I wouldn’t want him to do.”

When I told the story to my cop about how she picked me up, he went on about how pretty girls don’t just pickup random guys, that things like that don’t happen in the world he lives in. I replied with, “Welcome to my world.”


Yes, there are times I feel as if I won the genetic lottery.
 

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potato said:
I’m really not sure. My current girlfriend and past girlfriends have made such comments as, “Girls like me are a dime a dozen, but guys like you are one in a million.”




Here is another argument in favor of the fact that women are highly attracted to men’s looks. One day I was walking along and this car pulled up to me. There was this hot chick, offering me a ride to anywhere I wanted to go, even to her house if I wanted. Always up for an adventure I jumped in. Not five minutes down the road and cop cars were everywhere. Turns that they had some tip that a couple of criminals were to make some exchange very near where she picked me up. The cops were there watching and thought her picking me up was too suspicious.

They had me get out of the car and were questioning me by the rear right fender. I could still hear the conversation between her and the cop that was questioning her. He asked her why she would pick up a stranger when for all she knew I could have been some rapist. She said, “Just look at him, there is nothing he could do to me that I wouldn’t want him to do.”

When I told the story to my cop about how she picked me up, he went on about how pretty girls don’t just pickup random guys, that things like that don’t happen in the world he lives in. I replied with, “Welcome to my world.”


Yes, there are times I feel as if I won the genetic lottery.
Well, I guess you must have the looks of a Clooney or McCounaghey type character. Good for you. Don't people (both men and women) stare at you all the time though?

BTW, how tall are you?
 

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I think that looks are more than just looks. One day I was hanging out with a group of women and the subject of looks verses personality came up. The women mostly agreed that personality mattered more. Upon further questioning and especially as to how it is that women tend to notice/be attracted to some men from across the room if it was their personality that they were attracted to. The general consensus tended to be that a man’s personality can be seen in his appearance – his posture, his walk, his mannerisms, the look upon his face, in his eyes, the condition and style of his hair and clothing – all manner of things by which a woman thinks that she can determine a guy’s personality.

It seems to me though, that to some extent, looks determine personality and personality determines looks.

As an artist I spend a lot of time studying people. One thing that I’ve noticed is that people with debilitating mental illness, that over time their faces and bodies twist in ways that make them weird and highly unattractive. By this I’ve reasoned that a positive, optimistic person who is happy and confident will necessarily be better looking than someone who is always depressed, pessimistic, and insecure.

That is to say that one’s mental state has an effect on how they appear to others. I always remember this girl I met in my late teens. She had this horrible disfiguration on her lip and nose that made it difficult to look at her. Yet she was always so cheerful, so happy with life, such a joy to be around that her disfiguration became insignificant by comparison.
 

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mahon83050 said:
Well, I guess you must have the looks of a Clooney or McCounaghey type character. Good for you. Don't people (both men and women) stare at you all the time though?

BTW, how tall are you?
I’m 5’11”

I don’t think that anyone stares but I do find a lot of people looking at me, sneaking glances. People always tell me that I’m very memorable, that I should make money off of my looks.

The ones that freak me out are the guys that will approach me and begin with, “I’m normally heterosexual but….”
 

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Bah, the issue of looks

It comes down to a few things gents

Confidence
Power
Money
Fit
Fame

THATS IT

You dont need a face like Johnny Depp. You dont need Vin Diesels build. Have a few of those qualities, and you are golden.

If you have money, power or fame YOU HAVE STATUS. STATUS = PU$$Y.

If you are good looking guy who is out of shape, sitting playing video games all day long and living with your parents, you are not going to get laid that often.

Bottom line, short your **** out. Get into shape and dress properly, not like a metro or a slob. Just decent. Concentrate on making money or doing something you love. Stop giving a **** what GQ is saying to you. And above all else, stop giving a crap what women think.
 

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potato said:
I think that looks are more than just looks. One day I was hanging out with a group of women and the subject of looks verses personality came up. The women mostly agreed that personality mattered more. Upon further questioning and especially as to how it is that women tend to notice/be attracted to some men from across the room if it was their personality that they were attracted to. The general consensus tended to be that a man’s personality can be seen in his appearance – his posture, his walk, his mannerisms, the look upon his face, in his eyes, the condition and style of his hair and clothing – all manner of things by which a woman thinks that she can determine a guy’s personality.
Posture = confidence levels
Walk = confidence levels
Look upon his face = CONFIDENCE LEVELS
his eyes= CONFIDENCE LEVELS
Clothing and hair = STATUS

Confidence
Money
Power
Fame
Fit

Drum it into your skulls. Status does not come easy, but fitness and confidence can be worked on. So can basic dress sense and social skills.
 

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Initially physical attraction is what we all see. Thats the very first part of attraction and seduction. the rest is figured out after that point. Ive seen this many times. Pretty much anywhere I go I look for the most attractive women just to see how much they notice me. And I look for other women as well just not as much. Since about 2 years ago Ive noticed that I cannot go anywhere without women looking at me. Ive even caught some really hot girls STARING at me. I know I sound conceited but thats reality for me.
:rolleyes: I don't believe you mate....if it were true, why bother coming on here and why bother repeatiing yourself. Everything about your online personality comes across as lame and fake....NSU baller? Who do you think you are Snoop Doggy Dogg? Please stop with this ridiculous facade and post something useful.

Muppet.

And to these morons telling us you've won the 'genetic lottery', you're probably not as hot as you think, its just your arrogance that is getting you success with women....seriously, post a pic of yourself and lets see. potato, NSU, etc. And LOL at Potato...."Soft blue eyes and a smile that make women melt". I've never heard anything so pretentious not to mention arrogant in my life...I could describe my physical features but its such an idiotic thing to do....seriously mate, grow up.

AND the thing about average guys not ever being able to get a lot of hot women is false as well. Its just down to their game not being good enough. Take people like Mystery, Brad P, Juggler etc....I guarantee they could outgame Potato and NSU baller, and they're average by anyone's standards.

Seriously....ppl's mindsets on this site are just plain fuct up. Genetic lotteries? Oh please, man up, improve your game get the girls....its what I've been doing for the past year, and like I said, I'm no higher than an 8 on the looks scale.
 

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I think it's not that complicated. If your face isn't the greatest, there is nothing stopping you from getting a good haircut, loosing weight and gain some muscles, dressing nice and getting a tan. Theres how to go from ugly at worst to atleast average looking. Come to think of it, I cant say I've met that many ugly guys. Shure, alot of guys think theyre ugly. But most guys as I see it are either average or good looking. Anyways, there is allways room for improovment. No one is destined to be pure ugly.
 

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AgonyUncle said:
Posture = confidence levels
Walk = confidence levels
Look upon his face = CONFIDENCE LEVELS
his eyes= CONFIDENCE LEVELS
Clothing and hair = STATUS

Confidence
Money
Power
Fame
Fit

Drum it into your skulls. Status does not come easy, but fitness and confidence can be worked on. So can basic dress sense and social skills.
Yes I am very confident that I am so good looking that almost any woman will more than enjoy my company.
 

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potato said:
Yes I am very confident that I am so good looking that almost any woman will more than enjoy my company.
Now I know you're BS-ing. :D What a doofus!
 

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L777 said:
And to these morons telling us you've won the 'genetic lottery', you're probably not as hot as you think, its just your arrogance that is getting you success with women....seriously, post a pic of yourself and lets see. potato, NSU, etc. And LOL at Potato...."Soft blue eyes and a smile that make women melt". I've never heard anything so pretentious not to mention arrogant in my life...I could describe my physical features but its such an idiotic thing to do....seriously mate, grow up.

AND the thing about average guys not ever being able to get a lot of hot women is false as well. Its just down to their game not being good enough. Take people like Mystery, Brad P, Juggler etc....I guarantee they could outgame Potato and NSU baller, and they're average by anyone's standards.

Seriously....ppl's mindsets on this site are just plain fuct up. Genetic lotteries? Oh please, man up, improve your game get the girls....its what I've been doing for the past year, and like I said, I'm no higher than an 8 on the looks scale.

See and that is why you aren’t getting women. Bar none, the most important thing that determines attractiveness is ones genes. I’m sure you are up on genetics. Every thing that you are is determined by your genes, your height, the color of your eyes, if and when you go bald, the shape of your nose, the straightness of your teeth, your intelligence, even your basic personality. They are all determined shortly after your father’s sperm inters your mothers egg and their collective DNA combines to make your DNA.

No two people have exactly the same genetic makeup, except for maternal twins. These genetic differences lead to certain advantages to some over others. It is so obvious I don’t know why so many people object to it. Some people run faster than others, some sing better than others, some do mathematics better than others, some are better looking that others. Sure there are things that one can do to improve one’s selves but it is always within the confines of one’s genetic makeup.


After watching Mystery and his little gang of gay boys on TV trying to act like ladies men and laughing my a$$ off, I’ve thought about making a public presentation of the silliness of it. Maybe when I have more time.

I’m sure you could take David DeAngelo, Mystery, and all the others and not find one who can attract more women than I can. You know they learned their trade by watching men. hehe I got good with women by hanging out with women. And who’s your heros? The guys who watch guys? You must realize that they are playing more to your shortcomings than to a desire to really teach you about women. What are they really teaching you? To pick up girls at bars who are drinking and hoping to get picked up.
While you are working your little con game on one girl, I’m walking by lighting up the imaginations of dozens.
 

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women want both good looks and attractive personality. Sorry to all the guys who were born coming short. But what kind of society would it be if you could pass on your genes.
 

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potato said:
The ones that freak me out are the guys that will approach me and begin with, “I’m normally heterosexual but….”
yeah too bad its never happened
One of my girls works as a stripper. When I first started playing with her I’d sometimes go in where she worked. She had invited me so as to keep her company between sets. There were typically 8 girls on the evening shift and after about a month she was having problems with me going in there because some of the other girls were always coming onto me. She also worked atanother place on Fridays. It is a neighborhood bar. She told be that thisnew place was like Cheers where everybody knew your name. So I started going in there and soon, sure enough, everyone did know my name. At this particular place it is not at all unusual to find more women there than men.

I’m not much of a drinker and neither is she but we used to sit at the bar and get in on all the conversations that were going on. The bartenders are all female and I always get the best service. They often refuse my money, but then I’m usually only drinking Coca-Cola.

My girlfriend here is really hot and like a star attraction wherever she dances. At this little bar, more than once guys have approached me, noticing the way she looks at me. Some will say things like, “looks like love” but others will say something about wanting to sit next to me so they could see what I’m seeing when she looks at me the way she does.

I do get hit on by a guy every so often. One day I was there and this guy who was sitting at the bar was getting somewhat obnoxious. At one point the bartender pulled me aside and asked if the guy was bothering me, that she could have him thrown out. I told her, no, he’ll probably leave soon anyhow.
Next thing I know this guy slides up next to me and starts going on about how all the women in there were ugly, that none of them turned him on. Then he leaned over to me and quietly said, “I’m normally heterosexual but tonight I find you much more attractive than any woman and then gently laid his hand on my thigh.

I immediately jumped up and ran over to my girl who was just getting off the stage and told her what had just happened. As I left the guy stood up and started again on his rant about how the women there where ugly. About then the bartender and one of the regulars was escorting him out the door.

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I often take walks and along the way stop and sit to write, to draw or to read. One day I was sitting there and this Mexican guy sat down next to me. He had obviously been drinking and offered be a beer he pulled out of his coat, which I took out of courtesy but never opened it.

I was mostly ignoring him but he told me this story about how his wife was such a b!tch to him. Then he started going on about how I had such beautiful hair (golden blonde down to my shoulders) that he always liked Swedish girls and that my Nordic look was turning him on.

He then started going on about how he had never had sex with a guy but just sitting there with me he was getting a hard on and that if I would stand up pull my pants down and bend over that it would probably be the best sex he ever had.

I couldn’t run away fast enough.
 

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